Open Thread: We're Not At Camp

on September 14, 2012

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Hi beautiful humans.

It's so nice to see you here, on the Internet.

I mean, let's be real, it would be a lot nicer if we were all on a mountaintop, drinking tea and basking in the sun and attending gender panels and flirting with cute queers, but whatever, I guess the Internet is fine.

Sigh.

Who are we kidding? I'm totally depressed. Camp is happening right now, and the gang's all there, except they're not all there, because some of us aren't there. That's us. We're the gang that's not there. It's a bummer, isn't it? I'm bummed.

So I thought we could talk about our feelings. Spoiler alert, I'm sad and mopey and leaving awkwardly depressing comments on the A-Camp Facebook group. But I'm 100% willing to talk about that and/or convey my emotions in the form of images and gifs, and possibly also Ani DiFranco lyrics. You should do that too. Go crazy in the comments -- images, song lyrics, gifs, poems...surprise me with all the forms your feelings can take! And hey, no pressure to be sad. If you've got some happy feels going on this week, spread them around. I could sure use some cheer.

This sad kitten was made by Taylor to represent her sadness about not attending camp

But wait! I'm not starting this open thread with that much gloom and doom. Start planning your triumphant journey to California THIS Spring, because Camp's gonna happen again (and again and again and again) and I have the greatest feeling that one day, we'll all be there.

So this is the part where I was going to announce the dates for A-Camp Spring 2013, but we've run into this teeny tiny problem called "getting in touch with Riese, or Laneia, or really anyone on that gosh darn mountain." So I can tell you that we are 90% sure that A-Camp will take place in or around the last week of May 2013, and I can also promise you that as soon as we hear definitive words from Riese, I will update this very post and we will all rejoice. Though I feel like I must warn you not to get your hopes up, because given the status of cell service on the mountain I'm pretty sure all forms of communication involve a pack mule and/or messenger pigeon situation, so.

UPDATE: JUST KIDDING KIDS. Intern Grace obviously read my mind and acquired a messenger pigeon for this very situation, because as of 1:40pm EST I have received the official dates for A-Camp Spring 2013! You heard it here first:

A-Camp Spring 2013 will take place from Wednesday, May 22 to Monday, May 27 at Alpine Meadows Retreat Center in Angelus Oaks, California.

I'll see you babes on the mountain then. Until then...I'll see you in the comments.

157 responses to “Open Thread: We're Not At Camp”

Tarzan (member)
September 14, 2012 at 9:25 am Permalink Reply Report user

I had asked for like 3 days off for camp… IN MAY. May you guys!! And my boss had said no because we were supposed to be SO BUSY EVERYONE WOULD BE DOING 20 HOURS OF OVERTIME A DAY AND NEVER SLEEPING OR LEAVING THE OFFICE and guess what everything is totally fine and I totally could’ve taken 3 stupid days off.

So as soon as the dates are set, I’m booking the entire week off, like 7 months ahead of time. Grr.

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Capri
September 14, 2012 at 9:33 am Permalink Reply

Aww. Last week of May means camp moves from “right before exams” to “right smack in the middle of ‘em” for me. But now I’m glad I splurged on tickets to NY for winter break instead of waiting to see if I could make another camp – and maybe I’ll see you then, V? (Both cabinmate Vs, actually!)

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1. Vanessa (member)
  September 14, 2012 at 1:17 pm Permalink Reply Report user
  
  i would love that! i am traveling with my family a little bit in december — when will you be here?!
  
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Jess (member)
September 14, 2012 at 9:45 am Permalink Reply Report user

i’m making my new years resolution now. and that is to attend a camp next year, dammit.

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Lauralee (member)
September 14, 2012 at 9:46 am Permalink Reply Report user

End of May works for me but I wish I was there now :/

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Riley (member)
September 14, 2012 at 10:05 am Permalink Reply Report user

I wish so badly that I could be there right now. Hopefully may will work out though.

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Molly
September 14, 2012 at 10:15 am Permalink Reply

I’m sure the camp is fun and all, but I’d be too nervous to do something like that, to be honest. I wouldn’t know anyone. Plus, it’s all the way in California, I think. And I have work.

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1. Vanessa (member)
  September 14, 2012 at 10:24 am Permalink Reply Report user
  
  hi molly! i went to camp in april not knowing a single human and it was terrifying at first but then it was so lovely. there were so many introverts, so many shy people, so many anxious people, and everyone totally understood and was respectful and open and welcoming and warm and understanding. i’m not at camp now because i live on the east coast and couldn’t take the time off work, but i just want you to know that if you ever have the opportunity to take time off and the money to fly to california/pay for camp, you shouldn’t let not knowing anyone stop you! most people arrived not knowing anyone and left with close and meaningful relationships. okay that’s all, i just love camp and want everyone to go. <3
  
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  1. Molly
    September 14, 2012 at 11:09 am Permalink Reply
    
    I’m sorry, I didn’t mean that badly. Well, also, this going to sound dumb, but I’ve actually never been on a plane before. And I’m not sure I’d really be into all the stuff mentioned, though I’m sure it’s lots of fun.
    
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    1. Laneia (member)
      September 14, 2012 at 11:42 am Permalink Reply
      
      there’s at least two people here who took their first plane ride to get to A-Camp right now!
      
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      1. Vanessa (member)
        September 14, 2012 at 11:45 am Permalink Reply Report user
        
        OH MY GOD HI LANEIA. I JUST GOT SO EXCITED TO SEE YOUR NAME/GRAVATAR. HI. I MISS YOU! BREN IS DOING SUCH A GOOD JOB BEING YOU BUT I STILL MISS YOU BECAUSE I JUST LOVE YOU THAT MUCH. I HOPE YOU ARE HAVING THE BEST TIME I AM BOTTLING UP ALL MY TEARS OVER HERE AND WILL USE THEM IN A PERFORMANCE ART PIECE AT A-CAMP SPRING 2013′S TALENT SHOW <3
        
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        riese (member)
        September 14, 2012 at 12:27 pm Permalink
        
        oops i commented as laneia
        
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        Vanessa (member)
        September 14, 2012 at 12:29 pm Permalink
        
        I AM JUST AS EXCITED TO SEE YOU RIESE!!!
        
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      2. Molly
        September 14, 2012 at 2:27 pm Permalink Reply
        
        I’m sorry, I didn’t mean that as something bad. I get carsick very easily, so I don’t know about riding in a plane, and I’ve never really traveled very far either, is all I was saying.
        
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        L
        September 14, 2012 at 2:53 pm Permalink
        
        awww girl if it’s not your thing don’t worry about it!
        
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        Vanessa (member)
        September 14, 2012 at 3:16 pm Permalink
        
        hi sorry didn’t mean to make it sound like i was forcing anyone to like camp / want to go! i just found it to be one of the most inclusive warm environments i’ve ever existed in. but it’s okay! you know our motto! do you! forever and ever amen.
        
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2. emptyspiral19 (member)
  September 14, 2012 at 4:26 pm Permalink Reply Report user
  
  I kind of feel the same way actually but I still really want to go.
  Plus it’ll be like 3 days after my 23rd birthday WHOO HOOO!!!!!!
  
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  1. Vanessa (member)
    September 14, 2012 at 8:02 pm Permalink Reply Report user
    
    that is the perfect time to go!
    it would also be perfect if you were 33, or 43, or 78, actually.
    but 3 days after your 23rd birthday sounds lovely <3
    
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    1. emptyspiral19 (member)
      September 16, 2012 at 3:09 am Permalink Reply Report user
      
      Now 78 is kind of a stretch but I get your point..
      
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  2. Ali (member)
    September 17, 2012 at 5:06 pm Permalink Reply Report user
    
    May 23rd is my 25th birthday!!! We can have our birthdays together on the mountain!
    
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    1. Brianna (member)
      September 17, 2012 at 5:23 pm Permalink Reply Report user
      
      We already discussed this but May 23rd is my 22nd birthday! All the birthdays.
      
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      1. Brianna (member)
        September 18, 2012 at 3:14 pm Permalink Reply Report user
        
        Shut up, other Brianna. May 23rd is my 23rd birthday. This is not possible.
        
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        Brianna (member)
        September 18, 2012 at 8:40 pm Permalink
        
        Woah.
        
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    2. Vanessa (member)
      September 18, 2012 at 6:48 pm Permalink Reply Report user
      
      BIRTHDAY BASH BIRTHDAY BASH BIRTHDAY BASH. CUPCAKES, ETC.
      
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Maeve (member)
September 14, 2012 at 10:18 am Permalink Reply Report user

I totally thought about going this time but then my kitten got really sick, to the point where there was no way I could leave town. Even if I had gotten the most hardcore catsitter ever, I was afraid someone else would have to end up making the call about whether she needed to be put down or not, which would be horrible. Then she died so really I could have gone. Though the over $6k in credit card debt for vet bills is limiting my spending these days So that’s my sad “why I’m not at A-Camp” story.

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1. Caitlin (member)
  September 14, 2012 at 10:27 am Permalink Reply Report user
  
  In May, Maeve, in May–we’ll be there!!
  
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  1. Maeve (member)
    September 14, 2012 at 10:53 am Permalink Reply Report user
    
    Ok!
    
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2. patapata
  September 14, 2012 at 3:00 pm Permalink Reply
  
  Sorry to hear about your kitten. May s_he rest in peace.
  All the best to you.
  
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3. Emma
  September 14, 2012 at 4:10 pm Permalink Reply
  
  Wow 6000 dollars in vet bills for a kitten? You know you can get those for like 30 bucks at a shelter right?
  Anyway, sorry it died though.
  
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  1. Maeve (member)
    September 15, 2012 at 9:43 am Permalink Reply Report user
    
    Seriously?
    
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    1. Emma (member)
      September 15, 2012 at 1:02 pm Permalink Reply Report user
      
      I’m sorry that came across as insensitive. I just grew up in the country where every other week a neighbor’s cat was having kittens that could had for free and I was taught to be unsentimental about animals.
      
      I just would never spend 6000 dollars on vet bills for any animal, let alone a little kitten. If you are comfortable with that kind of financial action, more power to you.
      
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      1. Maeve (member)
        September 15, 2012 at 3:36 pm Permalink Reply Report user
        
        There are tons of kittens being born all the time here too but this kitten was my family.
        
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4. emptyspiral19 (member)
  September 14, 2012 at 4:29 pm Permalink Reply Report user
  
  Aww I’m sorry.
  I know it is in kitty heaven though living it up.
  Eating a lot of catnip, playing with mouse toys, eating salmon and
  chicken and tuna. Scratching all the scratching posts she/he can find.
  Loving all the other female kitties (I’m assuming she’s a girl here) and
  being the happiest kitty ever.
  
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  1. Maeve (member)
    September 15, 2012 at 1:20 pm Permalink Reply Report user
    
    She was a girl! She was only 9 months though, so not old enough to be exploring her sexuality! She did like cuddling with my other (girl) kitty though.
    
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5. Layla (member)
  September 14, 2012 at 4:31 pm Permalink Reply Report user
  
  I’m so sorry about your kitten. I hope you get to go in May!
  
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Gabrielle (member)
September 14, 2012 at 10:32 am Permalink Reply Report user

I wish I was at camp wearing flannel and boots and smelling campfires and fresh air and meeting people whose faces are otherwise tiny squares on my computer. I’ve never been to California. When I was a kid I never went to sleep away camp because social anxiety and coffee addiction (yes, starting in childhood) and general introversion. But all I want to do now is go to A Camp and meet cute nice queers and talk about girls and do arts and crafts projects in the sun. Next time!!!

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1. Erin (member)
  September 14, 2012 at 11:16 am Permalink Reply Report user
  
  That all sounds like every day here in Alaska. Well, except for the queers and girl talk and arts and crafts. Oh, and SUNSHINE.
  
  Okay I guess it actually sucks pretty bad here.
  
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Effi
September 14, 2012 at 10:50 am Permalink Reply

This sounds amazing! In the Uk we don’t tend to have stuff like that. We had a festival called Lfest which was pretty ace and lots of wet lesbians wondering around a field (it was raining…) (not the rude wet) (It’s Britain it always rains)(anyway..)
I hope you do get to go next year If ever I get to go to America that would be sweet x

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1. Christie L (member)
  September 14, 2012 at 9:53 pm Permalink Reply Report user
  
  Comment award!!
  
  We had a festival called Lfest which was pretty ace and lots of wet lesbians wondering around a field (it was raining…) (not the rude wet) (It’s Britain it always rains)(anyway..)
  
  I laughed my ass off. In the best possible way.
  
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  1. Christie L (member)
    September 14, 2012 at 9:54 pm Permalink Reply Report user
    
    Also, we have a lot of wet lesbians in Vancouver too. Because of the rain. Obviously.
    
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    1. red she said
      September 16, 2012 at 10:59 am Permalink Reply
      
      *lol* Pastries fou you two >>> http://imgur.com/PJsRg
      
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Layla (member)
September 14, 2012 at 10:52 am Permalink Reply Report user

Excited about A-Camp in May!! Maybe I’ll be able to go, if my dissertation is in a good place.

If you are sad about not being at A-Camp, this video will make you feel better – promise. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32FB-gYr49Y)

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1. Layla (member)
  September 14, 2012 at 12:32 pm Permalink Reply Report user
  
  Mm, another question – has anyone in their late 20s ever gone to A-camp? I’d love to go but I don’t want to seem like a perv.
  
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  1. Vanessa (member)
    September 14, 2012 at 12:35 pm Permalink Reply Report user
    
    oh my gosh layla — late 20s?! that’s like a baby! there were 30 year olds at camp! riese is 30ish! so is marni! and robin and carly, i think! also there were people who were 40, maybe even 50! i don’t have exact stats on this but i pinky swear promise we weren’t all baby 23 year old’s running around — camp is for everyone! all ages! please come!
    
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    1. Jen (member)
      September 14, 2012 at 1:07 pm Permalink Reply Report user
      
      YES. Aside from the whole poor-grad-student-living-on-loans thing, this is why I’ve hesitated to even think about a-camp. I feel like so many autostraddlers are early-20s babies, and I’m sure we’d still be fast friends and all that but I didn’t want to be the only almost-cougar late-20s-and-older queer there. Phew. Someday! (But not May because my grad school is on quarters, not semesters like normal people, and so that’s pre-finals time for us. Buh.)
      
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      1. Alexis (member)
        September 14, 2012 at 1:25 pm Permalink Reply Report user
        
        No you guys there are so many people of different age ranges here and I am so glad because of how much we learn from each other and our ages are just another thing that makes us unique.
        
        Also don’t ask me how I have wireless for this at camp because I’m fairly positive my service is fueled completely by feelings.
        
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      2. Erin (member)
        September 14, 2012 at 1:28 pm Permalink Reply Report user
        
        Yeah, this is my life. I’m 33. Apparently people stop going out when they turn 30 ’round here. But I’m still gonna go to camp in May. Probably.
        
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      3. riese (member)
        September 14, 2012 at 1:28 pm Permalink Reply
        
        It actually goes right down the middle — this session definitely skews older, I ended up making three full cabins for 28+ campers — but about half the campers are under 25 and about half are over. we’re also making an effort to bring in older staff, too, and have done so this time and will in the future.
        
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        Layla (member)
        September 14, 2012 at 3:35 pm Permalink
        
        Aw, this is all good to hear. I’ll be 28 the next time A-camp comes around, and I want to go, money and program permitting. I just worried that it skewed younger, and that everyone would think I was a creeper. Thanks, y’all!
        
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        riese (member)
        September 15, 2012 at 1:20 am Permalink
        
        nope! we only had about 15 people under 20 this session. a-camp is for all people of all ages!
        
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      4. keiks
        September 14, 2012 at 9:26 pm Permalink Reply
        
        yay! maybe my goal will be to finish my thesis by a-camp next year. i’m also on quarters but maybe if i finish i can escape for a week and celebrate with other 28+ queer ladies at a-camp! and other not 28+ folks, but i also was worried about being a creeper old person at camp…anyway, now i have a goal and motivation. thanks again, autostrad, you’re the greatest!
        
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      5. Christie L (member)
        September 14, 2012 at 9:57 pm Permalink Reply Report user
        
        Jen!! I am 30 and a grad student and I want to go in May, provided my school schedule works and finances are okay to take a trip from Vancouver to Cali in May on a student budget. Oh, I will have so many feelings if I can go!!! And I am studying to be a counsellor /therapist, so I can help everyone with their feelings too!!
        
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        Emma (member)
        September 15, 2012 at 1:05 pm Permalink
        
        In May I’m going to just finishing a masters in family therapy! We should totally have an informal group counseling session or mental health panel! That would be amazing.
        
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        keiks
        September 15, 2012 at 2:57 pm Permalink
        
        if i make it in may, i would be open to help with my feelings!
        
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  2. Molly
    September 14, 2012 at 1:35 pm Permalink Reply
    
    I feel like that too, that being in my late 20s, I’d be too old.
    
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    1. riese (member)
      September 15, 2012 at 1:25 am Permalink Reply
      
      not at all! i’m not sure where this idea originated. robin, marni, laneia and i are also all over 29 and alex is 27 and we run this shit, soooooo
      
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      1. Molly
        September 17, 2012 at 2:15 pm Permalink Reply
        
        Oh, okay. But I’m also not really into drinking and partying and what-not, so I don’t know. I mean, there’s nothing wrong with that, of course. Sotmrry if it sunded like that. I just mean for me.
        
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  3. Dina (member)
    September 15, 2012 at 12:36 am Permalink Reply Report user
    
    I was 29 when I was at camp, and I would really like to go again as a 30-year-old!
    
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  4. Emma (member)
    September 15, 2012 at 1:07 pm Permalink Reply Report user
    
    I was 30 at the first A-Camp. I did not feel out of place at all. Truthfully I feel like I had a totally different Camp experience than the younger campers but it was still awesome.
    
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  5. Fox Maverick (member)
    September 16, 2012 at 5:28 pm Permalink Reply Report user
    
    Our whole cabin was a spectrum of early to later 20s. I’m 26 and I had a blast so much so that while I wait a few hours here for my plane i’m catching up on Autostraddle and replying to comments about camp!
    
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2. Mareika (member)
  September 14, 2012 at 7:45 pm Permalink Reply Report user
  
  oh my god layla this video just made me laugh so hard and i do feel better!
  
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  1. Layla (member)
    September 15, 2012 at 7:21 am Permalink Reply Report user
    
    Mission accomplished!
    
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Amanda (member)
September 14, 2012 at 10:55 am Permalink Reply Report user

Are we ever going to get an East Coast camp?

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1. Kate (member)
  September 14, 2012 at 11:02 am Permalink Reply Report user
  
  there are a lot of great camps here in the adirondacks hem hem cough cough powers that be
  
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2. Vanessa (member)
  September 14, 2012 at 11:02 am Permalink Reply Report user
  
  hi amanda! because 90% of the team lives in california (or at least west coast) and because of our positive relationship with alpine meadows, it’s currently a smarter financial choice to continue having camp on the west coast (i don’t know the exact details because i’m not riese, but i know that we would have to charge a LOT more for an east coast camp right now, so much more that it would actually be MORE expensive for campers on the east coast than buying a plane ticket & paying for camp right now!) we’re all hopeful that camp will one day be able to happen in a lot of different locations, but for now, california’s where it’s at. i hope i get to see you at camp one day
  
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3. Michelle
  September 14, 2012 at 12:04 pm Permalink Reply
  
  Or let’s split the difference and have it in Louisiana because the stupid GS council is making plans to sell the most beautiful camp in the state and the only thing that could make the site more wonderful would be if it was filled with queer ladies!
  
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  1. Vanessa (member)
    September 14, 2012 at 12:08 pm Permalink Reply Report user
    
    i’m pretty into this idea, actually.
    
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  2. Mia (member)
    September 14, 2012 at 3:06 pm Permalink Reply Report user
    
    Hello other Louisianian. What camp?! The only place I’ve camped here is at Fontainbleau State Park.
    
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    1. Michelle (member)
      September 14, 2012 at 3:25 pm Permalink Reply Report user
      
      Indian Creek (the one in Chatham, because I think there are 3 campgrounds by that name in the state).
      
      It’s probably actually too small for A Camp (capacity is 91-ish) but it really is a wonderful property.
      
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  3. Emma (member)
    September 15, 2012 at 1:08 pm Permalink Reply Report user
    
    Permanent Autostraddle camp/queer lady commune. Let’s do it!
    
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Allie B (member)
September 14, 2012 at 10:56 am Permalink Reply Report user

Oh my Lord the Gods have spoken and this Utah bitch is going to A-Camp this Spring! Nothing will stop me. Vanessa I will see you there and we will be reunited and it will feel sooooo good.

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1. Vanessa (member)
  September 14, 2012 at 11:03 am Permalink Reply Report user
  
  OH MY GOD this almost makes me feel okay about not being at camp right now. UTAH I CANNOT WAIT FOR THE SPRING <333
  
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  1. Mareika (member)
    September 14, 2012 at 7:47 pm Permalink Reply Report user
    
    ditto reunited in may!
    
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Kate (member)
September 14, 2012 at 10:58 am Permalink Reply Report user

I’LL BE THERE IN MAY AND I EXPECT TO TOUCH THE BUTTS OF AT LEAST HALF OF YOU

but real talk vanessa and i are totally hanging out tomorrow and crying about not being at a-camp

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1. Vanessa (member)
  September 14, 2012 at 11:04 am Permalink Reply Report user
  
  this is a real true statement. i mean we are also going to brunch but mostly we’re gonna cry a lot.
  
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  1. Allie B (member)
    September 14, 2012 at 11:08 am Permalink Reply Report user
    
    Oh can I also say in May A-Camp I’ll be 21 which will make this whole experience even better!
    
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    1. giles (member)
      September 14, 2012 at 5:18 pm Permalink Reply Report user
      
      Yes yes 21 in time for mAy-Camp Club! Lez get queerunk
      
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Beez (member)
September 14, 2012 at 11:16 am Permalink Reply Report user

I pray for the day camp doesn’t fall during the school year.

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1. Emma (member)
  September 14, 2012 at 11:31 am Permalink Reply Report user
  
  THIS.
  
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  1. Laneia (member)
    September 14, 2012 at 11:41 am Permalink Reply
    
    summer camp rentals have summer camp in the summer so we can only rent them out in the off-season. we picked the last week of may because most schools are done by then. literally school schedules were our #1 factor in picking dates, and we tried really hard to find some that worked.
    
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    1. Michelle
      September 14, 2012 at 11:58 am Permalink Reply
      
      If it was like one week earlier I might be able to make it! But I work for a summer program in June that we have to start prepping for the last few days of May.
      
      One day, though. One day it will happen.
      
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    2. Beez (member)
      September 14, 2012 at 3:27 pm Permalink Reply Report user
      
      This is literally the only time teaching has ever given me the sads (aside from striking…)
      
      Seriously though, thanks for trying to make it work, I know planning these things must be a beast. Someday I shall camp. Someday…
      
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      1. Christie L (member)
        September 14, 2012 at 10:00 pm Permalink Reply Report user
        
        Sickness is a thing. Do you work somewhere where you are allowed sick time? (i.e. compensation would be rad, but not getting fired would be a must)
        
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Tom (member)
September 14, 2012 at 11:48 am Permalink Reply Report user

This is my first comment. I’m not at camp and I’m not precisely sad about it though it would probably be a lot more fun than hiding out in my room at the International Students’ House that I share with about 50 people who are all five years younger than me and nobody here is gay. I think. I haven’t seen any overt evidence of queerness.

Okay, I’m extremely sad about not being at camp.

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1. Vanessa (member)
  September 14, 2012 at 12:00 pm Permalink Reply Report user
  
  happy first comment, tom!
  
  if it makes you feel better, exactly nobody ever thinks i am gay, so perhaps there’s a shy feminine girl in your midst right now, sitting in her room, feeling sad because she’s not overtly queer and thus has to awkwardly out herself all the time if she wants the chance to connect with her community, and wishing she could find a fellow queermo. out of 50 humans, i’m almost convinced one of them must be queer. i am sending you good vibes and hoping you find your partner in crime. i found my girlfriend in a small group of 33 americans who were spending the year in israel, so i believe there is hope.
  
  also i hope you will be able to join us at camp in may 2013, or another camp in the future. we love you and we’re here for you. <3
  
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  1. Tom (member)
    September 14, 2012 at 12:11 pm Permalink Reply Report user
    
    Aw, thanks! Yeah, it’s the eternal coming out-process, isn’t it? I’m sure there are other gay people here, I just need to find them.
    
    We totally need an international secret hand shake or something.
    
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Michelle
September 14, 2012 at 12:06 pm Permalink Reply

A-Camp February 2014, guys. I never ask for birthday presents, but that would be the best 21st birthday present ever.

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1. Michelle (member)
  September 14, 2012 at 1:23 pm Permalink Reply Report user
  
  And I would absolutely skip a week of classes for it.
  
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2. raptor (member)
  September 17, 2012 at 7:05 am Permalink Reply Report user
  
  winter camp! play in the snow! drinking hot toddies by the fire and making snowmen queer christmas a camp
  
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leafdarking (member)
September 14, 2012 at 12:13 pm Permalink Reply Report user

YES that is the week after finals for me! I’M GOING TO CAMP!!!

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Megan (member)
September 14, 2012 at 12:54 pm Permalink Reply Report user

My girlfriend left me for a-camp! Ok, maybe a little over dramatic,but she still left me for a week. FML! Anyone else in the same boat?

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1. Vanessa (member)
  September 14, 2012 at 1:37 pm Permalink Reply Report user
  
  i left my girlfriend for camp in april. this time around we’re both stuck on the east coast…but come may, i’m bringing her with me!
  
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2. Busy
  September 14, 2012 at 1:44 pm Permalink Reply
  
  Yep i’m in the same boat…but it does help that they do have SOE reception up there so i have been talking to her.
  Oh and that I packed her bag for her…so if she cant find something she calls me to ask where it is….see still totally helpful even though i’m over 5 hours away.
  
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  1. Vanessa (member)
    September 14, 2012 at 1:48 pm Permalink Reply Report user
    
    that’s really adorable. i like this whole comment a whole lot.
    
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  2. Megan (member)
    September 14, 2012 at 3:35 pm Permalink Reply Report user
    
    So cute! Wish I would have thought to pack for my girlfriend!
    
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Christy
September 14, 2012 at 12:54 pm Permalink Reply

Yippee. My old coworker is at work today visiting. The one who, in summer 2009, said “you’re gay, aren’t you, Christy?” when I was totally not in a place to deal with that question. I stuttered that i was bisexual and avoided her for the rest of the summer.

Now I’m out and proud, but I definitely wasn’t at the time. I also wasn’t really on board with being gay so I hedged with telling myself I was bi. Ugh what an inappropriate question. Seeing her STILL makes me uncomfortable. She’s literally the only person who has ever confronted me on my sexuality in that manner. (I’m lucky, I know.) But like, ugh, gtfo.

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Ellie (member)
September 14, 2012 at 1:02 pm Permalink Reply Report user

See i’d be sad but A) i have no idea how a pre-medical but dman well trying trans girl would go down on a camp and i did just come home to the UK from belgium yesterday which is beer capital of everywhere and made me rather happy. Belgium is awesome.

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1. Ellie (member)
  September 14, 2012 at 1:03 pm Permalink Reply Report user
  
  belgium bit was meant to b B). Derp.
  
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  1. Christie L (member)
    September 14, 2012 at 10:02 pm Permalink Reply Report user
    
    I am guessing that A-Camp would damn well love you, Ellie.
    
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2. Fox Maverick (member)
  September 16, 2012 at 5:42 pm Permalink Reply Report user
  
  You’d be supremely welcome Ellie! There were quite a few trans campers and even a trans panel, which i’m still sad I missed
  
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Ellen (member)
September 14, 2012 at 1:04 pm Permalink Reply Report user

I am here in New Zealand doing absolutely nothing when I could be surrounded by queers in America.
You guys seem to have a lot of queers.
And my queer youth meetup has been postponed, damnit!

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Jessica1989
September 14, 2012 at 1:06 pm Permalink Reply

Ends one day before I have SRS booked!

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taylor (member)
September 14, 2012 at 1:13 pm Permalink Reply Report user

bummersville usa

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1. Vanessa (member)
  September 14, 2012 at 1:18 pm Permalink Reply Report user
  
  your kitten is literally the only thing making me smile through this hard time.
  
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Kristen (member)
September 14, 2012 at 1:46 pm Permalink Reply Report user

I wanna be there right now! I can’t even type coherent thoughts on it. Oh May. Why you gotta be so far away?!?

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Jay (member)
September 14, 2012 at 1:56 pm Permalink Reply Report user

AHH, the last week of may is my second to last week before graduating high school. WHY??? I’m just going to hope and hope and hope that the fall camp next year is before I start college and that I can go.

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fragola (member)
September 14, 2012 at 2:00 pm Permalink Reply Report user

That’s over my birthday! May 25th! It would be so great if I could go but I have very low hopes that I’d be able to afford it. I’m only working part-time right now and I have loans and rent to pay. BUT maybe…maybe it will happen. :/

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Sawyer
September 14, 2012 at 3:29 pm Permalink Reply

Hahaha that’s useful, because it seems that A-Camp 2013 will take place while I am revising for my high school exams… in another country.

I’m holding out for A-Camp 2014, personally.

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1. Megan (member)
  September 14, 2012 at 3:36 pm Permalink Reply Report user
  
  Me too! a-camp seems to only happen while I am in school! Student teaching next year makes me going nearly impossible! a-camp 2014 here I come!
  
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2. Michelle (member)
  September 14, 2012 at 3:38 pm Permalink Reply Report user
  
  2014 OR BUST!
  
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3. Mollie (member)
  September 16, 2012 at 3:02 am Permalink Reply Report user
  
  Maybe by the time it falls on a date I can do, I’ll also have the money to do it!
  
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G (member)
September 14, 2012 at 4:51 pm Permalink Reply Report user

Yessss A-Camp 2013! I was just talking about this with a friend and then magically the dates appear! So totally there, provided our savings get us flights from Melbourne and Glasgow respectively eeek.

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Cat
September 14, 2012 at 5:22 pm Permalink Reply

I’m definitely coming in May! I’ve never been to America, what else should I do while I’m there?! This announcement definitely makes up for not being there right now! So many !!!’s

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Ren (member)
September 14, 2012 at 5:32 pm Permalink Reply Report user

That amazing incredible awe-inspiring happiness-inducing moment when you realize that A-Camp will start just as school lets out about an hour and a half away . . .

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Suburban Soulgirl (member)
September 14, 2012 at 5:42 pm Permalink Reply Report user

aww shucks! it’s allergy season then, so i’ll be chained to my desk til june. well, maybe next time!

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AnnieMac
September 14, 2012 at 5:54 pm Permalink Reply

Planning a trip is my favourite way to cheer up. Yay for May! And you know what comes after May? A very prideful June. That’s right America I’ll be there!

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theboattimes (member)
September 14, 2012 at 5:55 pm Permalink Reply Report user

I cannot come to a camp in may and that makes me sad by adorable girlfriend and I are moving to SAN FRANCISCO in september 2013 and maybe then I will be able to come because I’ll have a different more flexible job and we’ll be SO CLOSE and we could just DRIVE THERE AHHHHHHH IAMSOEXCITEDTOMOVE

FEELINGS

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1. theboattimes (member)
  September 14, 2012 at 5:56 pm Permalink Reply Report user
  
  *sad but my adorable girlfriend…
  is what I meant to type but I was having all the feeling and that got in the way of my typing abilities
  
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  1. theboattimes (member)
    September 14, 2012 at 5:57 pm Permalink Reply Report user
    
    nnnnnnooooo!
    *all the feelings
    I should just stop typing things forever I will always make typos this is a sad moment
    
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    1. riese (member)
      September 15, 2012 at 1:29 am Permalink Reply
      
      this is cute
      
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      1. theboattimes (member)
        September 15, 2012 at 5:44 pm Permalink Reply Report user
        
        D’aww, you just made me feel closer to a camp! Plus, I just showed this to said girlfriend and she kissed me. Thanks, riese!
        
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Emma (member)
September 14, 2012 at 6:46 pm Permalink Reply Report user

I am not sad so much as insanely jealous of everyone that is at camp. I can’t wait til spring though! Putting in a request for the time off on Monday.

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Mareika (member)
September 14, 2012 at 7:58 pm Permalink Reply Report user

the biggest feeling i am feeling is that i am so glad there are definite dates to look forward to. so, it’s almost like i can pretend a-camp is not going on right now. almost?

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1. Vanessa (member)
  September 14, 2012 at 8:09 pm Permalink Reply Report user
  
  yes! definite dates = definite planning = definite comfort = definite excitement. and definite reunion <3
  
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Jenn (member)
September 14, 2012 at 9:16 pm Permalink Reply Report user

A Camp 2013 may or may not be highly affecting my decision to look for my junior year internship in LA/California. I need to go to one of these and East Coast + school = waahh.

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1. Vanessa (member)
  September 14, 2012 at 9:23 pm Permalink Reply Report user
  
  i want you to know that is a completely valid way to choose an internship. i support this decision 100%.
  
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Elizabeth (member)
September 14, 2012 at 10:27 pm Permalink Reply Report user

The Friday of camp in May is a faculty work day at my school, and that Monday is Memorial day. This means I would only have to skip two days of class! Time to start saving

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1. Elizabeth (member)
  September 14, 2012 at 10:28 pm Permalink Reply Report user
  
  The bad news is that the 24th is my dad’s birthday…
  
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Dina (member)
September 15, 2012 at 12:42 am Permalink Reply Report user

So bloody glad that my brother is in town so I’m out doing stuff and not wallowing in jealousy in front of my computer!

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Brianna (member)
September 15, 2012 at 7:08 am Permalink Reply Report user

I need to go to mAy-Camp. Because what could be better than celebrating my birthday on a mountain with so many wonderful human beings?

NOTHING. Unless… Are kittens allowed at camp? That would make it even better.

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1. Vanessa (member)
  September 15, 2012 at 10:10 am Permalink Reply Report user
  
  i hope kittens are not allowed because i am the world’s worst queer and am deathly allergic to cats. sigh. but i am really excited to celebrate your birthday on a mountain!!
  
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  1. Brianna (member)
    September 18, 2012 at 3:16 pm Permalink Reply Report user
    
    NEVER MIND! Forget the cats! I don’t need cats because Vanessa and I are going to celebrate my birthday without cats on a mountain.
    
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    1. Vanessa (member)
      September 18, 2012 at 6:44 pm Permalink Reply Report user
      
      THERE WILL BE CUPCAKES.
      
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2. Brianna (member)
  September 17, 2012 at 6:17 pm Permalink Reply Report user
  
  When’s your birthday? Mine is on the 23rd.
  
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  1. Brianna (member)
    September 18, 2012 at 3:15 pm Permalink Reply Report user
    
    Well…. Just saw this. Also the 23rd. =)
    
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    1. Vanessa (member)
      September 18, 2012 at 6:45 pm Permalink Reply Report user
      
      BIRTHDAY BASH.
      
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Grays
September 15, 2012 at 7:09 am Permalink Reply

AGH. I was really excited until I realized I’d already be at a sci-fi convention on the opposite coast.

Curses! *fistshake*

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arinn (member)
September 15, 2012 at 7:10 am Permalink Reply Report user

sooo, woke up at 6 am and being lazy before i haul my ass to the boxing club. so, that’s something, right…?

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1. Vanessa (member)
  September 15, 2012 at 10:08 am Permalink Reply Report user
  
  yes, that is totally something! i woke up at 10am and cleaned my kitchen and my living room so i feel like that is something too. but you’re boxing right now so your something might be more than my something. but we’re all superstars, is the point.
  
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Ty
September 15, 2012 at 10:02 am Permalink Reply

I will not be going to A-Camp 2013 for I will still be a wee 17 year old baby. Adulthood come faster..

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vicki!
September 15, 2012 at 10:56 am Permalink Reply

This is my first comment!
My girlfriend is at A-Camp right now. I’m in Chicago and miss her terribly- and not just because of A-Camp. She moved to California a few weeks ago to go to grad school at UCLA. But! I’m visiting her in four days! And we have monthly plans to see each other!
I still wish I was at A-Camp with her though.

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1. Vanessa (member)
  September 17, 2012 at 2:09 pm Permalink Reply Report user
  
  thank you for commenting! keep commenting! we love you and we love your comments and i love that you’ve commented since then (on my funday!) and i can’t wait for you to see your girlfriend and also for you both to come to camp in may because you’re both coming to camp in may, right??
  
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Lizz (member)
September 15, 2012 at 12:35 pm Permalink Reply Report user

Not being at ACamp is the worst. Why does med school always manage to put mandatory anatomy lab sessions on friday afternoons?!

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ladyrainicorn (member)
September 15, 2012 at 3:43 pm Permalink Reply Report user

GUYS, GUYS, GUYS, I really need your help. I moved to university last week all on my lonesome. I hate, hate, hate my flatmates, but luckily I’ve managed to find a little gang of queers to hang around with due to our great LGBT society.

Unfortunately, after a way too drunken night out last night, I brought one of them back to my flat and, well…you know.

Don’t get me wrong, it was good, but then she insisted on smoking out my window, told me half way through that she’d have to tell her flatmates she’d got with a guy that night, started knocking on my flatmates doors while still naked to try and wake them up and took up the entire fucking bed (damn you, university accomodation single beds).

Then I woke up in the morning and realised she’d scratched all down my back – no, seriously, it looks like I’ve been mauled by a tiger. I’m pretty sure it’s going to scar. I went to the bathroom to inspect the damage, came back to my room and found she’d dissappeared with all her stuff.

She’s pretty much one of about three friends I’ve made since I got here and, even worse, she’s doing the same course as me, so I’m going to see her all the time. Even worse than that, I don’t even like her that much, but the sex was pretty damn great, mauling aside. WHAT DO I DO?

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1. Elles
  September 16, 2012 at 12:17 am Permalink Reply
  
  I think the first thing to remember is that university is a big place filled with lots of people. It’s only your first week?? Give it time, try joining some other societies and meeting new people? Also if you really hate the people you’re living with, you can probably apply to switch halls.
  
  Also maybe after a while of being forced to interact with her on your course and in a similar friendship group, you’ll both look back on this as just a funny story, and it won’t be that awkward?
  
  Probably gonna be awkward for a while though. My best advice on avoiding awkward situations is to just act like you’re not awkward at all and you don’t regret a thing. Good luck
  
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Wednesday
September 15, 2012 at 7:48 pm Permalink Reply

My birthday is May 25! I COULD CELEBRATE MY 21ST BIRTHDAY AT A-CAMP.

This has to happen. HAS TO.

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1. Vanessa (member)
  September 15, 2012 at 11:38 pm Permalink Reply Report user
  
  STRONGLY AGREE.
  
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Lj (member)
September 15, 2012 at 10:37 pm Permalink Reply Report user

I wish that “attending A-camp” is enough of “a strong and persuasive petition” to be approved of a US Tourist Visa sans the “show money”. Can anyone (AS staff and/or member) work for Manila US Embassy for a little while and help us Filipina ‘Straddlers go to A-Camp please? LOL ^_^

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radseed
September 15, 2012 at 11:19 pm Permalink Reply

i thought they were gonna do an east coast A-camp after this one? P-p-p-p-pleaaaaase? maybe i’ll luck up and get to go cross country next year

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Lindsey
September 15, 2012 at 11:48 pm Permalink Reply

I have a question. What’s the typical age of the A-camp-goers?

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1. Vanessa (member)
  September 16, 2012 at 12:08 am Permalink Reply Report user
  
  hi lindsey! as riese wrote above, there are campers of all ages:
  
  “It actually goes right down the middle — this session definitely skews older, I ended up making three full cabins (16 people each) for 28+ campers — but about half the campers are under 25 and about half are over. we’re also making an effort to bring in older staff, too, and have done so this time and will in the future.” – riese
  
  hope that helps
  
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Alex
September 16, 2012 at 4:35 am Permalink Reply

Reasons Why I Cannot Go To A-Camp:

1) I am 16 and live in the UK. This means I am going to need to wait until I am at least 18 to even consider A-Camp. Also the comments have made me realise that a lot of stuff is 21+ in the US but I’m really not sure I can wait that long. It’s cool, I’ve got a savings account to build in the meantime. Also, I made one of the paint chip calendars Autostraddle showed me because they’re totally cute, so I’m counting how many prides I get to go to between now and possible autumn 2014 A-Camp to keep myself busy/happy and gay.
2) I’m currently sitting in front of about 50 photos of London attempting to make a moodboard out of them. Apparently this is what art students do. I’ve only just converted to being one from being a drama student because of timetable problems. in these photos are about 5 of the same close-ups of a freaking postbox because I’m not allowed to use illustrative images in my final piece, only abstract expressions of things. The only thing weirder than having to write about the details on a postbox in a very serious and artistic manner is having to walk around the city for an entire day shamelessly taking close-ups of said postboxes, landmarks and random objects.

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Willis (member)
September 16, 2012 at 11:37 am Permalink Reply Report user

So, I really really want to go to A-camp in the spring. It will be like 2 months after I get home from the Peace Corps and I can’t imagine a better present to myself after over 2 years in a Muslim country than a weekend with amazing queers. Hopefully that will work out, we shall see.

On a happy note even though I’m definitely not at A-camp I had a wonderful weekend with some great people and worked hard and played hard and decided to learn to play the guitar and hitchhiked and had a fire outdoors and came in to possession of a sweatshirt that says “Pussyfoot” on it. So, life is good.

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1. Sara
  September 19, 2012 at 7:56 am Permalink Reply
  
  I also missed A-Camp due to being in a muslim country on a medical mission (but not for the peace corps). I’m hoping to be at spring A-Camp too, maybe we can trade stories!
  
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Mariah (member)
September 17, 2012 at 11:45 am Permalink Reply Report user

Not only did I miss camp, but I also couldn’t get to a solid enough internet connection to actually use my laptop, so I missed the thread to have feelings on. Feelings multiplied by 400,000.

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1. Vanessa (member)
  September 17, 2012 at 12:18 pm Permalink Reply Report user
  
  but you’re here now, and that’s what counts <3
  
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frecklescorp (member)
September 17, 2012 at 6:15 pm Permalink Reply Report user

If only I could find a way to convince my uni that my PhD research involves going to A-Camp in the US of A. I’ve only ever been to the East Coast as well, I bet my Irish skin would be bright red in California in May, hopefully from blushing as well as sun!

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