“To L and Back” L Word Podcast Episode 308: “Latecomer” With Rhys Ernst

Director Rhys Ernst joins us for a complete fucking shitshow of an episode which I believe we all recall fondly as the “Transformation” episode, as per the song performed by Kit, Nona Hendryx and “The Betty Girls” throughout this excruciating experience. We’ve also got oceanside sex, a nice tea station, Angus being an asshat, Max yelling at Jenny, Shane landing in the shithouse for behavior in Carmen’s dream, Bette skipping town for a silent meditation retreat, Max coming out as trans, and a big WNBA surprise for Dana Fairbanks!!!


+ Rhys Ernst’s film Adam (you can read about the controversy around it here and you can read Drew’s review here and you can watch it and decide for yourself if you like it here.
+ Here’s Basically Everybody Who Was In “The L Word” And Also Is Gay Now
+ L’What the Fuck Video

Tina (wearing striped pajama bottoms and a black tank top) sits next to Bette (wearing a black pinstripe PJ set) in their bed. The subtitles read "Angelica crying" off camera.

Carmen (wearing a white shirt) gives side eye and a "what the fuck?" face to Shane (off camera). Carmen says, "You were giving a tattoo to Cherie Jaffe."

Alice (wearing a burgundy top) is holding a long blonde wig. She says to Dana (whose back is to the camera), "Blondes have more fun."

Dana (wearing a navy blue t-shirt) sits on a bed wearing a short brunette wig. She says, mimicking her mother, "I just read an article about an amputee who won a tournament."

A blue-tinted computer screen showing an Instant Message window. Jenny has typed in the window: "Max, the transgender formerly known as Moira."

Bette (wearing a brown jacket) is holding Angelica (wearing a blue shirt and a pink pacifier) next to Tina (wearing a blue blazer) in their driveway. Bette says "Fine" and Tina says "Wonderful" to the adoption social worker (off camera) who has just arrived.

The 3 band members of Betty are standing around a microphone in a recording studio. The subtitles show that they are singing the lyric "Deviations."

Max is holding in his hands a plastic wrapper that reads "Pissin' Passin' Packer"

Alice and Shane (both wearing short spiky wigs) stand on either side of Dana, who is now bald and wearing a chunky white scarf around her neck. They scream, "You go, girl!"

A woman wearing a gold sequins top sits in a recording studio. "I'm down with that 'do"

Alice (wearing a burgundy top) sits on the floor in front of a couch playing video games. She says, "I had this girl who dreamt that I fucked David Schwimmer."

Jenny sits at a table in a dimly lit room. She is typing intently on her laptop and says, "I'm writing a story about you."

Shane and Carmen sit on the their deck with their knees bent up against their chests. Shane is wearing a red hoodie under a jean jacket and Carmen is wearing a white t-shirt and a red bandana on her head. Carmen says, "You totally took off with this bird."

Jenny (wearing a dark brown dress and sunglasses) steps off a private plane. She says, "Everybody, Moira's dead!"

Shane and Alice sit on a private plane. Shane is peeking over from behind Alice's seat. Off screen, the flight attendant is detailing the snack options, saying that they have "apricot tarts, fresh baked cookies, fruit, yogurt."

Max and Dana (who is wearing a large white fedora, mind you) stand in a crowded stadium bleachers. The subtitles read "[stadium cheering deafeningly]"

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Riese is the 41-year-old Co-Founder of Autostraddle.com as well as an award-winning writer, video-maker, LGBTQ+ Marketing consultant and aspiring cyber-performance artist who grew up in Michigan, lost her mind in New York and now lives in Los Angeles. Her work has appeared in nine books, magazines including Marie Claire and Curve, and all over the web including Nylon, Queerty, Nerve, Bitch, Emily Books and Jezebel. She had a very popular personal blog once upon a time, and then she recapped The L Word, and then she had the idea to make this place, and now here we all are! In 2016, she was nominated for a GLAAD Award for Outstanding Digital Journalism. She's Jewish and has a cute dog named Carol. Follow her on twitter and instagram.

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  1. What a hilariously bad episode to recap. Made for a great pod ep. I enjoy going back and listening to old Kc/Elka The Planet episodes and comparing the different takes on this g.

  2. I cackled on the bus multiple times listening to this weeks episode. Pls have Rhys as a guest again! You three were hilarious together 💙

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