Real L Word Episode 202 Recap: The Morning After We Got Drunkity Drunk Drunk

Welcome to Real L Word Episode 202, which I’m recapping because I didn’t make Intern Grace create 1,000 screencaps and a pie chart about Kelsey’s household duties just to quit!

This week on The Real L Word, everyone took turns repeating how they feel about Whitney, Sajdah did a cross-country triathlon to support the research of exotic airborne diseases afflicting super-super-underprivileged populations, Romi considered taking Kelsey to Mommy & Me Yoga to spice things up in the bedroom, Kacy and Cori were sitting in a tree T-A-L-K-I-N-G A-B-O-U-T S-P-E-R-M and then Showtime sent me a check and I bought everybody a trip to Disneyworld. They need a Real L Word Special where they visit Disneyworld, like when The Brady Bunch went to Kings Island.

Even though I don’t play video games, I think The Real L Word would be better as a video game, like Leisure Suit Larry.

Anyhow, let’s get this show on the road, hopefully it’ll get run over! I’m trying really hard to put aside my affections for humanity and treat these people like the “characters” the editors have turned them into, which is taking a toll on my soul. From The Frisky:

A large part of being a lesbian is sex. A large part of being a human is sex. But why does lesbian sex have to be the focus of the only reality show that’s on television claiming to be telling lesbian stories? When the women are not in the bedroom, they are discussing otherwise banal topics and quite obviously aren’t able to find a story that’s worth televising.

Worth noting:

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Good morning! Would you like some eggs, waffles, or Sara’s tits? All three minus the first two? PERFECT!

Despite just waking up, Sara’s already prepared for a day in the cages:

guard your asshole, she's got those heels on again

Whitney muses that, “it always feels good to be intimate with Sara.” Sara is the new Skintimate, pronounced “SkAN -TEH- MATE.” Also, Whitney is addicted to Sara, heroin and analogies. Today Whitney compares herself to Romeo from Shakespeare’s famous Romeo & Juliet.

Sara: “So should I like, fake my death sometime soon? Or wait, or you are, because you’re Juliet.”
Whitney: “Then I’d really die. That sounds actually accurate. Like you would get out alive and I’d be in the bedroom dying. You would be like ‘damn, I’m actually just sleeping, yeah bitch don’t take it so seriously.”

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After a morning spent doing it doggy-style, the ladies take their dogs to the park, in style.

matchy-matchy

Sara and Whitme, looking very homeless chic, describe “the dog park” as “like Disneyland for dogs” except without rides, lines, food, people dressed as cartoon characters, Captain EO, or fireworks. Children, probably also led to this deserted land by adults promising Space Mountain, discover Disney Magic in Sahara’s face:

it's ok, it's just a tennis ball we were playing with last night

Just in case you’d forgotten and needed an update, Whitney reminds us that she’s conflicted about her feelings for Sara!

Rachel and an unidentified girl (probably she works for Autostraddle) brought a dog who wants to taste the Disney Magic/grass and are surprised to see that there’s another camera crew already on the land.

we're supposed to be acting surprised, right?

After standing around and looking at each other for a little while they decide to go take their dogs somewhere else. Somewhere CLEANER. With FAIRY PRINCESSES.

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Claire recaps last night in case it wasn’t exciting enough the first time. The way Claire figures it, Francine’s being an asshole ’cause she’s scared to let Claire in / get hurt again. Silly Francine, trying to protect her little baby heart! Someone get that girl a churro!

it's true, francine is a vampire

Once again Claire addresses the most pressing issue currently facing out nation’s lesbians: a lack of a lesbian website/online magazine for people of our generation. My heart — it swells!

Then Claire hops on the telephono with Franny to talk nonsense. When Claire says “your behavior last night was not good,” it’s difficult to tell if she’s talking to Francine or the dog, which I think is a bad sign.

yes i'm eating your kix. what? just 'cause i've got cracklin' oat bran in new york doesn't mean i don't crave Kix sometimes. It was my first cereal ever

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Sadjah’s straight friend Marrisa is visiting and Sajdah wants to ensure the week isn’t too gay, besides the gay reality show cameras following them everywhere.

sajdah will take the heavy stuff

For example — before the gay pride march, Indigo Girls concert, flannel-shopping trip and Tomboiswagg party — they’re eating. Food! At a table. Just like straight people do every day.

why isn't marissa eating her soup, i want some

“Did I tell you I’m stalking a girl?” Sajdah asks Marissa. Well she shouldn’t tell her that ’cause it’s not true, she wouldn’t know a real stalker if it was hiding in a bush in her front yard with a machete.

Sajdah says it’s Stalker Appreciation Month or Stalker Awareness Month. I think it’s the latter because I’m all too aware, but not so appreciative.

“Lesbians fall in love in all of 30 minutes,” says Sajdah, who’s allegedly been out for one year, never had a girlfriend or a gay scene and is an expert on lesbian life.

girls lol

I think Sajdah gets the award for getting her fake-story-self and her actual self mixed up most often. Also, her scenes have been tinged with sadness for me after discovering her twitter:

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Kacy & Cori have left the privacy of their own home and are in a restaurant, talking about sperm.

did i leave the oven on

Kacy’s ovulating in a month and she’ll never ever ovulate again if they can’t find a guy to jerk off in a cup for them STAT.

What they should do is have a party – a screening of The Real L Word – invite all their straight male friends to come, line the floors with saran wrap, and let the jerkoff juice fall where it may. Then just mop that shit up, drop it into a sippy cup and turkey-baster-blast that baby right into rock ‘n roll heaven.

maybe i can get pregnant via black magic

The duo agrees that they’d underestimated the attachment men have to their sperm. I underestimated the attachment Ilene Chaiken has to men who have attachment to their sperm. Cori wants to find a man they know and suggests craigslist. Who edited this scene.

Also, this is Cori & Kacy a few weeks ago:

Just saying.

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Romi, who’s rocking a Cleopatra/Mother-Hubbard/Ziggy Stardust ensemble, has brought her mother onto the program for a meal with her girlfriend, Kelsey, who still wants more attention/sex, but probs won’t get it as long as these cameras/booms are tracking them down.

"baby i don't know how to tell you this, but you're fucked."

Romi is lamenting how tough life is for her and Kelsey in West Hollywood, with their home and food and jobs, and when Kelsey mentions making a mistake at work, Romi is like, “heads up to both of us, Kelsey might lose her job soon!” And then what. Then what? Who will feed Sean Jayden? Will everyone have to switch to Cover Girl?

for the first and last time in her life, kelsey found herself needing the same thing ilene chaiken needed

Romi talks about Kelsey while Kelsey stares at the table, like about how Romi’s paying for the roof over their heads. Who’s paying for the walls, huh? HUH? Kelsey’s 23, Romi explains, she’s never had to pay rent and pay for her bills. It’s really a wonder she even knows how to flush the toilet.

Kelsey: “She used to be so passionate and romantic, and you know, couldn’t keep her hands off me and now, she just–”
Romi: “I did. I would just want to rape her every time I saw her. I would just grab her and hug her — I get. I get– I’m — I get in my head, I have a lot going on — and I’ve been pissed off — and I don’t want to rip your clothes off–”
Kelsey: “Really? You’ve been pissed off at me?”
Romi: “Because of the whole like, money thing –”
Kelsey: “Yeah yeah yeah.” [looks down, sighs, looks up] “GOD.”

this facial expression situation is becoming rather common

Romi’s Mom gives wise words. Someone get this woman a spinoff, it could be like The View, with Ellen’s Mom and Debby Navotny.

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Back to Whitneyhouse, where girls can be girls, and talk about girls!

so we're uh... we're having this conversation again? yeah? really?

I found the dialogue in this scene so captivating and reminiscent of Mamet, Stoppard and Tennessee Williams that I had to transcribe it for you:

Alyssa: “I just heard that you hooked up with Sara again.”
Whitney: “And who told you that?”
Alyssa: “Does it matter?”
Whitney: “Yeah, it does matter.”
Alyssa: “It doesn’t.”
Whitney: “It does.”
Alyssa: “It doesn’t matter.”
Whitney: “Who told you that?”
Alyssa: “I’m not telling you it doesn’t matter.”
Whitney: “Who told you that?”
Alyssa: “I’m not telling you! I said, it doesn’t matter.”
Whitney: “Who the fuck told you that?”
Alyssa: “I’m not telling you!”
Whitney: “Tell me the person–”
Alyssa: “No, I’m not telling you is what I just said. The point is — is — what happens? I can’t believe–”
Whitney: “No, hold on a second—”
Alyssa: “I have this weird feeling that you’re like — having an alternate life–”
Whitney: “What the fuck are you talking about dude?”

Alyssa’s exhausted from all this nonsense. Us too.

Whitney: “I’m a fucking adult, number one, and number two and I could either get butthurt over shit or I could just take it like I already did because I’m single and i do what I want to do.”

tinkerbell wants out

Who told Alyssa that Whitney hooked up with Sara? Probably the camera man. Alyssa’s got another little metaphor for Sara’s intense appeal.

Alyssa: “She liked sprinkled voodoo dust up on Whitney’s head!”

Well, nobody will ever find it in there.

The most important piece of information gleaned from this conversation is that Sara has breast implants.

i believe whitney has already done so

This is how Whitney feels:

This is how Rachel feels:

Speaking of SLAPPING THE VADGE!…

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In the next scene, Rachel explains that she hasn’t seen Whitney much since moving there and therefore she has some pent-up sexual desire. Furthermore, Rachel reveals that she enjoys porn featuring straight girls sucking men’s dicks, a.k.a. “blow jobs.” (sidenote: many gay girls I know masturbate to straight porn, obvi, we like what we like, not an issue. But in this context — a lesbian show already being accused of going soft-core porn this season to appeal to male viewers — this is all sort of suspicious.)

Rachel then uses an erotic toy to stimulate herself while watching the straight porn of blow jobs. She makes a lot of noises that I believe are cinematic orgasmic sounds. At the end of this scene — no. Not even at the end. About 15 seconds into this scene, I began praying for a Grizzly Bear to smash my eyeballs into my skull like grapes. Little smushed up grapes.

I don’t know why this is happening. Why is this happening?

join the club

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So, now that we’ve basically lost all hope for the future of lesbian entertainment, let’s return to Francine’s Love Lounge where Claire and Francine are preparing a meal. There are snags, like where’s the cutting board. Claire searched all over for the cutting board but couldn’t find it. Where will they cut? This issue is never resolved, unfortunately. How do you misplace a cutting board? Do you take it to your room to dice tomatoes before bed?

i never would've worn these pants in 2008, i'm like such a changed woman

Francine: “You know when I was little I used to love Ricky Martin I thought he was so sexy.”
Claire: “Now he’s gay, just like you.”

The “thing” is still there, but it’s kinda scary.

Francine: “Your first love will always have a special place in your heart.”

For the remainder of the scene Claire alternates between saying something to Francine and then telling Francine why that something she just said is indicative of Claire’s status as a “changed woman” who is “older now.” She’s 26. They dated from 19-23. So it’s been three years since they last steamed broccoli together.

cheers to whatever aspects of your storyline may be true

Claire: “I like this. Working out, cooking, she’s like a changed woman”

Claire points out that she’s purchased three lesbian magazines, look see:

magazines operated by people ilene chaiken doesn't have a personal vendetta against

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We catch up with Sajdah the Boi Scout at, literally, a “Martin Luther King Parade” with her Gay & Lesbian Center Cult-Buddies. Unfortunately for Marrissa, the memory of Martin Luther King Jr is probably the straightest thing at this event and her breakfast pastry knows it.

is this blueberry coffee cake gay

They catch up with Chanel and Sajdah reports on Chanel’s Parade Couture: “her breasts were all up and shit.” A rose by any other name…

Then Sajdah lets us know that she is a “direct beneficiary of the civil rights movement.” The civil rights movement is basically an estate at this point, am I right. She feels gay rights are the new civil rights/”race relations” and this fight is important to her.

Honestly the people marching in this parade in this scene look happier than anyone has ever looked on The Real L Word since the last time Jill and Nikki screamed about bunnies.

Sajdah says having Chanel close by during the parade gave it meaning and the emotional element. Is she talking about the intoxicating scent of Chanel No.5, or about the girl Chanel?  Stay tuned!

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Riese is the 32-year-old CEO, CFO and Editor-in-Chief of Autostraddle.com as well as an award-winning writer, blogger, fictionist, copywriter, video-maker and aspiring cyber-performance artist who grew up in Michigan, lost her mind in New York City, and now lives in The Bay Area. Her work has appeared in nine books including "The Bigger the Better The Tighter The Sweater: 21 Funny Women on Beauty, Body Image & Other Hazards Of Being Female," magazines including Marie Claire and Curve, and all over the web including Nerve, Bitch, Emily Books and Jezebel. She had a very popular personal blog once upon a time, and then she recapped The L Word, and then she had the idea to make this place, and now here we all are!

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    Maybe it was just me, but I totally saw the hipster from the Kreayshawn video during the dog-walking scene where the four of them were all wearing the same t-shrits for some unexplained reason. When I say “totally” I mean, I think I saw her, but was probably thrown off by the single feather earring. What’re the chances of two people wearing one feather earring?

    Actually, seeing as earrings are sold in pairs, i’m guessing it’s pretty high.

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    i’ve never seen this show as i don’t watch tv, let alone reality tv.. i’m a snob.
    i feel really sorry for you, having to actually watch this shit.. especially now with all the IFC douchery going on. i totally get that you have to do this for traffic/money/other good reasons. anyway, i just wanted to let you know that your recaps are very entertaining and witty, they make me laugh. i just hope you stay sane in the process!

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    LA- land of tattoo sleeves, too many mis-matching accessories, smokers, and screaming in public apparently.

    I fast forwarded through this shit and watched the parts with Franny. Does not hold my interest like your recaps do. :)

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      Only that the screencaps were so big that I couldn’t look away fast enough. The horror. I’m just glad i’m not actually watching the show to see all these NOT SEXY lesbian moments in motion. I can barely handle the stills.

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      I’m at a loss for words. That is quite possibly the most violating scene besides the unnecessary introduction to Romi’s hairless porn appropriate prepubescent vagina. I’m so scarred that I don’t if I feel discouraged from becoming a screenwriter or if it’s become a necessity. What is this to say now? Hey heteros! We lesbians are good with our hands! And we fap fap fap tumblr-style to blow jobs and doggy style sex! And you will LIKE it because it means that we have something in common with your husbands. ICK! It was pleasant to see Robin and other AS clues…I Spy is a fun game to play!

      Gosh. I live 30 minutes east of LA and I’ve managed to spare myself from wearing that annoying ass feather shit, those arm sleeve tattoos, print shirts, leggings and thrift store boots combos, and unsightly hats. This cannot BE L.A. I refuse.

      ARGH.
      FUCKING ARGH.

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      Um, did you see the scene in next weeks?

      I just honestly feel bad for these girls. Some of them are so obviously self-destructive. I’m pretty sure they are NOT getting paid well enough to do these things on camera. Bums me out.

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        Right? IT IS PORN. Yup I said it. It is straight up exploitation, and it is self destructive and there will be feelings of shame and regret.

        I personally, at this stage in my thinking, have no problem with some porn, but feel that it is likely the minority of women who are in the industry who are actually balanced and in control so that makes me have feelings of sad.

        So, I just hope these girls are awake to the reality that they are making porn and that the porn is geared towards men, and that they are being used and exploited.

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        That’s even worse. I bet the cast members are getting paid crumbs as it is. Kim Kardashian probably makes like 200 grand an episode on her show and she doesn’t even allow this shit to go down in her bedroom. If you aren’t going to have any dignity at least make sure you are getting paid well to embarrass the hell out of yourself(and friends and family by association).

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          i think they get somewhere between $5,000->$10,000a season, but don’t quote me on that. It People like Rachel don’t get paid at all but also aren’t contractually obligated to Showtime for the next four years like the rest of them. Or at least that’s how it worked last year, it could be different now.

          The money is mostly to be made afterwards, doing club appearances and stuff

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          [quote]People like Rachel don’t get paid at all but also aren’t contractually obligated to Showtime for the next four years like the rest of them.[/quote]

          WHAT? Oh, hell to the no! I would not be pleasuring myself on tv for free. That’s crazy. Not even on the off-chance that I would get paid later for club appearances. And then what? You are now the bitch at the club that people whisper about how you masturbated to some straight porn for all the world to see and didn’t even get paid for it. Lord help this girl.

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          I’m sorry, it’s 3:30 AM here and I stayed awake to read this recap, so maybe my mind’s going, but I could have sworn I read that they’re contractually bound to Showtime for four years? Holy Hannah Montana, that’s the second worst thing I’ve ever heard next to “Who killed Jenny?”

          Also, the masturbation scene quite literally made me mega-uncomfortable but it was such a train-wreck I couldn’t look away. Do they know that the world will watch this? For example, Francine…her parents don’t know she’s gay and she doesn’t know how to tell them?

          Ehm…television/the internet will take care of that for her now, I guess.

          Additionally…

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          maybe it’s 2 years? i could be wrong! don’t quote me like i said! But it is a certain amount of time that seemed ridiculous, someone we knew was offered a part last year and so we saw their contract and said do not do this, these terms are unacceptable and so she didn’t

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          That is insane. Two years of my life tied to IFC and Showtime? I’d rather play in the rain with dementors.

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      With that masturbation scene, more than ever, I was like, what the F is this show? I mean, really? Totally gratuitous, it in no way pushed forward any of the sort-of-stories the show is pretending to have. I felt like all it did was say, “sex!! lesbians can find straight things hot, don’t worry!!”

      BIG TIME STUPID.

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      also, her really classy “they look like whores!”comment prior to the masturbating felt like a punch in the stomache.

      (on the same WHATTHEFUCK note, romi’s rape joke? no. nonononono.)

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    I don’t own a tv, which constantly confuses my friends when I can recap everything that happened on Glee the night before. I need to find some friend who watch this show so I can pull out the same magic trick.

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    In the kitchen you can tell that it’s January because there’s an Autostraddle Calendar on the wall and it looks like Miss January!

    It’s like this show is a gay Where’s Waldo. You have to find the hidden autostraddle member / reference.

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      i know when i first found out that the gang that moved out to LA from NYC would probably be milling about in the background during the show I was like “don’t tell anybody, let’s just pretend like they’re not there if they show up, it will hurt our street/hater cred to appear to be complicit” (this is a totally diff issue than the photoshoot thing) but now that the show is actually on, looking for Sara Medd is just about the most exciting part of every scene so I’m totally in Where’s Waldo mode.

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    wow… how fucking adorable is superdrunk kelsey, trying to get her wasted girlfriend home!
    and how shitty of romi to constantly nag about her with her mum with kelsey sitting there (+ a camera crew..)
    the francine/claire situation is confusing, but they’re both hot, so at least those scenes are fun to watch. opposed to rachel+straight porn+magic wand…really, rachel, really? wtf?

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    I don’t watch TRLW but I started reading the recaps. I don’t get it. What do all these women do for jobs? Are they actual friends or just random queer women brought together to drink and make mistakes? When do we find out who A is? Is Ilene Chaiken A?

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    What they should do is have a party – a screening of The Real L Word – invite all their straight male friends to come, line the floors with saran wrap, and let the jerkoff juice fall where it may. Then just mop that shit up, drop it into a sippy cup and turkey-baster-blast that baby right into rock ‘n roll heaven.

    doesn’t this take place in episode 5

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    I feel so bad for you that you have to endure this piece of total and utter crap every frickin week, I guess it’s an occupational hazard… I feel ashamed for every single person involved in this production (except Ilene fucking Chaiken of course), however I thoroughly enjoy reading these recaps, it’s like reading a gossip magazine…my guilty pleasure. Well done Riese, well done. And that masturbation scene, even the screencaps were burning my eyes, I think actually watching moving images might have been a slow torture you don’t wish upon your worst enemy. I can’t believe people are actually willing to participate in this project, but hey everything for your 15 minutes of “fame”

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    I’m not watching TRLW2 because the first ep was mind-numbing crap but these recaps are neat. I don’t care much for the sperm and drama but I like the Daria and Rent references!

    I hope you don’t watch the show alone. At the very least, a drinking game to make it fun? Too easy..

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      i’m always super drunk and stoned when i watch it and i make my girlfriend watch it with me though she sometimes falls asleep.

      last year we’d watch it on the tv and i’d be g-chatting with laneia/jess/carly as they also watched it on the tv so it was like we were watching it together. this year i’m not buying anyone showtime subscriptions in order for us to do that because i am not giving any more money to showtime right now.

      also last year laneia and i were both in nyc for the first few episodes so we watched them as a team and with alex.

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    I just read the recap. Did not watch. Cannot afford showtime. I work in public interest. Did not see the first season or read the recaps but i recently got sucked in to the recaps because of the showtime drama.

    But…wtf IS this show? They show the girls having sex and masturbating? In real life? What? Just what??????

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    I will not ever watch the Real L Word because:

    1. It’s crap.
    2. The tagline for the show (at least, where I live, Argentina) is “The show for women that every man will want to watch.” WTF.

    (The recaps are hilarious, though.)

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          They’re just more honest in Argentina.

          That’s what’s really going on here ladies. The show was NEVER for us. It’s all been a bunch of pandering propaganda & bullshit. This season is very clearly porn and we’re not the target audience. With all the poor lesbians, you really think they’re making a show for the smallest segment of their paying subscribers? That is after all how they make their money.

          The biggest disappointment is in the cast itself and their refusal to say “no, I won’t do that on camera. You can stand outside the door like last season.” Especially for the ones who aren’t getting paid. There are on/off switches on the battery packs they’re all wearing for their mics. It doesn’t take a genius to figure that out. This is the height of exploitation and a sad demonstration of how poor so many women’s boundaries are.

          Makes me sick.

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    You are way too friggin’ nice. I would have compared drunk Romi and Kelsey to Peter Griffin when he gets wasted… for starters. I’m glad I don’t recap this because my brain would literally explode from all the possible mocking. This season is even worse than the first one. I never thought two gay women could be as annoying as Nikki and Jill, but along came Kacy and Cori. Oh god, it’s SO HORRIBLE!

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      I want to give Kacy and Cori a break, because I’m more than certain that they are not as annoying and one-dimensional as the show makes them seem. They probably didn’t expect to be portrayed as the sperm squad, but baby Chaiken gets what baby Chaiken wants.

      Watch this show stoned. It dulls the pain.

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    This makes me want to slit my wrists.

    And with the first episode i was like, better production, new people, i like francine and claire, kelsey’s really cute, we’re in new york then la then new york then la, this is good!

    Now i want to cry and tell you that you never ever need to watch another second of this riese

    And the lack of talking about anyone’s job besides claire’s non-job makes me miss la fashion week. At least they did shit right?

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      Totally with you on the missing LA Fashion Week(end) from Season One. I loved Mikey’s parts mainly because she wasn’t bitchin’ about some girl, she was actually doing something that wasn’t a couple of half-a-second frames of pretending to do someone’s hair.

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    the fruit of the month comment was genius. best. idea. ever.
    who wouldnt want ripe peaches at their doorstep?

    oh, and your claire / magazine / sarah warn jokes are pretty spot on – im assuming it’s the editing, but the fact that Claire laments the lack of lez-friendly websites is just painful. does SHO really think its audience is that stupid? there’s got to be a technical term for this type of thing. or can i just make one up?? like… reality denial disorder?

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    Whitney: “Really? What am I mad about? I don’t know, you think I don’t see things but I–”
    Sara: “I mean I haven’t talked to Hanna in a really long time.”
    Whitney: “Really? when’s the last time you talked to Hanna.”
    Sara: “Today.”

    Priceless.

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    In Claire’s defense, (not just because I am madly in love with her and am severely depressed that I will never have a chance with her because I’m not AZN) she wants to create a lesbian website that’s FASHION BASED (to my understanding). To me, Autostraddle is more of the ‘Weekend Update’ of lesbian websites, keeping us up-to-date on an assortment of our girly informational needs. I think my wife, ahem, I mean CLAIRE is aiming for a lesbian website that is SPECIFICALLY for Fashion…which is not what I think of when I think of Autostraddle. (and I think Autostraddle is #1)

    I just felt the need to say that, as I’ve been sensing some tension on these recaps/articles ever since Claire stated that she wanted to create a website for lesbian life [b/c there wasn't one].

    all love, no hate xoxo

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      right but we’re just here to talk about what we see on the show and the characters they’re trying to create onscreen. To be honest Claire approached us about doing something with AS and we’ve talked to her about potential ways to work together in the future and she had great ideas which we were really excited about moving forward on — but that’s not on the show (though i think the conference call was filmed, but i doubt it’ll show up). She’s a cool girl. Nor is the fashion element mentioned on the show — that’s just what you know from doing additional research. If i recapped based on what I know about these people in general, rather than what i see on my TV, it’d be a very different recap.

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      Oh god that’s why she looks so hot to me, she’s the tomboifriend version of Emily Blunt. I don’t even watch the show, just read the recaps…I even find it endearing that her face is the same in every screencap.

      EMILY BLUNT TOMBOIFRIEND

      where do I get one?

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      i think Kelsey looks like Alison Mosshart… and she out of all of them seems real.. Seriously I’m happy no one has video taped me drunk on any occassion… it would be way worse than this show. Also if I was followed with a camera 24/7 and had all this crap on the go… yes I would drink more than usual. and i feel bad for all of them, signing whatever contract was signed in this terrible show…. yet i cant help but watch it and rot my brain away.. omg.

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    I watch this show:
    1. As prep for the hilarious re-cap’s
    2. Just because it is something actively going on in popular culture, that has to do with lesbians.

    But now, it’s just crossed over into beyond offensive and disrespectful. It’s just gutter trash tv. And I hate it for the “Actual people” that may have been duped into participating, and having the “tv” spin of their lives portrayed as the real thing.

    So straight people, or maybe even “just out” or “questioning” girls can assume:

    1. All lesbians are freaky voyeuristic people that will hook up with anyone and everyone and also have sex on camera.
    2. Every lesbian wants to masturbate for your pleasure.
    3. If you are a lesbian, you smoke or at least get drunk all the time.
    4. Lesbians don’t believe in love, or romance. Only wedding planning, PDA, fighting/f***ing (same thing?), voyeurism for straight people, and giant orgy parties.

    I understand they are just trying to make “good tv” but this show is so boring and just awkward. I hit pause quite often and have to walk away and come back because of an intensely awkward moment. Those of you only reading the re-caps just trust me, it’s super awkward, like when you accidentally hug someone that was just trying to shake your hand awkward.

    I’m going to keep watching, if only to further build a case against showtime citing defamation of lesbian—everything. Just everything.

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    “(sidenote: most gay girls I know masturbate to straight porn, obvi, we like what we like, not an issue. But in this context — a lesbian show already being accused of going soft-core porn this season to appeal to male viewers — this is all sort of suspicious.)”

    Whaaat? WTF? Why? I feel like this needs its own thread. SERIOUSLY? WHY?! I don’t want to see a penis anywhere when I’m enjoying some alone time. Lesbian or solo girls is where it’s at. I won’t deny I have seen gay porn and found it oddly kind of a turn on, but I would get down to it. Maybe I’M the weirdo?!

    Anyway, a masturbation scene in a reality show (aka television based off manufactured drama when two or more people happen to be in the same room together) is highly suspect. It’s mostly OK when it’s scripted TV, but seeing real people getting down and dirty and seeing their “stories” and their “lives” is totally weird. This show is a little porn, a little reality TV, and the worst parts of both! Chaste porn, and annoying fake drama. At least with real porn you don’t have to think at all about the fact that they are real people!

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      I was totally confused by that “lesbians masturbate to straight porn” comment too. I mean, granted I’m the Only Queer In The Village only managing to make it to civilization for a year or two at a time, so I don’t know a whole lot of lesbos IRL, but I can’t imagine why they would want to see anything with a penis involved. I’m technically bi and even back when I was willing to date men, I never wanted to watch straight porn! Maybe Riese meant women-masturbating-porn-that-is-assuming-a-straight-male-audience kind of porn?

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          mhm what dina said. ‘most of the lesbians i know’ refers to like 5 people. not everyone shares their porn preferences with me.

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          Ah, I see. I was just curious, since that genre appealing to lesbians had never occurred to me. But like Dina said, different people like different shit, plus I’m so deprived of RL lezzie friends.

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      “Anyway, a masturbation scene in a reality show (aka television based off manufactured drama when two or more people happen to be in the same room together) is highly suspect. It’s mostly OK when it’s scripted TV, but seeing real people getting down and dirty and seeing their “stories” and their “lives” is totally weird.”

      Yesss!!! I’ve seen masturbation scenes when it’s via art on film or masquerading as art, whatevs. But that was weird. But real people? And it’s not HBO’s Real Sex? Too much.

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    Oh, big-ups on the Leisure Suit Larry reference. Is it bad that I saw the picture and INSTANTLY knew what it was from without reading any of the text? Maybe I should’ve known I was a lesbian when I was 12… but I did love those style of games, Kings Quest, Leisure Suit Larry… good times.

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    I don’t want to like the beautiful Claire because she is stringing two super hot gaysians along but damn her voice is like sex…probably from smoking, which I also dislike. damn it, conflicting feelings.

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    Riese, so sorry for what happened to AS. It’s total bullshit but also completely typical in HWood. Contracts aren’t worth the paper they’re written on. They aren’t really agreements so much as guidelines for lawsuits. I get screwed daily, for realz.

    Anywho, love the recap as always. Hugs to you & the team. Just wanted you to know I never came here for recaps in the first place and if they ended, it wouldn’t change my relationship with AS one bit. Please do what is best for you and what you can tolerate soul-wise. I don’t watch the show. I’ve seen exactly one episode and that was after reading a recap. I don’t subscribe to Showtime and have no plans to in the future especially while this drivel is ruining the perceptions & reputations of lesbians world-wide.

    Love.

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    I won’t subscribe to Showtime, nor never ever watch this program. However, I will definitely visit the Autostraddle website and read every recap. Your writing and humor are awesome! Thank you for making Mondays something to look forward to. :)

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    I read the recap and watch the episode on megavideo simultaneously. Usually, i end up turning the sound off and reading the recap cringing, trying not to look at my other open window.

    Then, I listen to the weekly This American Life podcast and Ira Glass reminds me that some people aren’t on the Real L Word, and emotions are real, and things are ok.

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    i mean i agree that these things dont happen in real life well atleast not MY life but in all this is the ONLY form of lesbian tv we have so i think we should at least aprpeciate it for that. without it we have nothing.

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        Ashley, it’s exactly this attitude of complacency that gets us this shit. Imagine somewhere in the world, even the US, this is the ONLY exposure a straight person has to what is being sold to them as lesbian culture/life. Are you really ok with that? I’m not. And I’m tired of accepting garbage, manipulation & exploitation ’cause that’s all we can get. This show is porn for straight men. It’s not for you and you’ve already stated it bears no resemblance to your life so you have no reason to support it. Don’t fool yourself. This is not ok. Have you seen any reality show anywhere in which there are male leads & the show requires full frontal nudity & on camera sex? I don’t know of one. Yet an all female cast show about lesbians interestingly does require both of those things. Are you getting the picture? And we’re being exploited by a LESBIAN in addition to a major corporation. And you know at least some of the camera men are in fact MEN, right?
        Don’t support this shit. Demand something better or at least demand the truth – that they’re using us to sell sex to straight guys and like idiots we’re giving them awards for the equal opportunity that isn’t equal at all!

        If this were any other minority group and a similarly structured/produced/manipulated show was the only thing on television about said minority group, the outcry would be deafening.

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    so claire’s storyline seems absolutely and positively absurd. anyone else?
    the following is how i imagine a convo went down.

    IFC: we’re moving to NYC
    Claire: nah, then i don’t want to do it. i have a great job and a great g/f
    IFC: your contract line 11003 states obligation to follow the location. and 11004 states your soul is mine too.
    claire: well what’s my motivation for going there?
    IFC: you are starting a lesbian website
    claire: isn’t there already…
    IFC: Hush. i killed jenny. …and sarah warn and riese are dead to me.
    IFC (kneading palms): let’s also have you stay/flirt with your ex whilst still in a relationship across the country
    claire: that doesn’t even sound believable
    IFC (dissipates into thin air)

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    Lol I guess your right. Either great or nothing at all. But its sad that that’s the ONLY way they can portray lesbians. Sex addicts. Lol I mean I love sex but lordy! & being african american it kinda sucks to see sadjah not be apart of the group. Like when they were all at the club where was sadjah? Does the black girl have to be the outcast?! Bleeeh great! :/

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    I think that my feelings about this episode were best expressed by the girls that are standing next to Whitney and Sada during the “blue period” of their argument. If you watch them they flip off the camera…twice.

    I would stop watching the show but taking a drink every time someone smokes and for every ridiculous hat is way too much fun. I would add a shot for every sex scene but I don’t have the money to pay for a trip to the hospital due to alcohol poisoning…

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    Reese!! OMG, Girl, let’s overact about the Photo shoot a little more. Kidding, what a bitch, and although you are way over harsh about the recaps. I could never lie to you and say that I don’t laugh out loud constantly while reading them.. YEAHHHHHHH REESE. make shirts team reese vs team Ilene, pass them out in Wast Hollywood. I’m team Reese. Good luck girl!

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    Oh, these re-caps make all the cringiness (almost) all better. (THANK YOU, RIESE!) A few more hours sitting with my clothes on in the shower and I’ll be good as new. Honestly, I’m so torn this season, because if these recaps didn’t exist I would certainly, without question, stop watching this heartless, soulless, mindless, utterly horrifying, staggeringly bad show. But really, without seeing it all first hand, I could not begin to fathom the evil IFC has unleashed upon the world. And that would be no fun.

    (As a side note, I have a question: What does the F stand for in IFC? I haven’t been on Autostraddle long enough to have stumbled across an explanation of this acronym, and for a little while I thought it might stand for Independent Film Channel, but obviously, that made no sense. Now I like to think it stands for Ilene Fucking Chaiken. Am I right? Do I win a prize?)

    Okay, so it’s late and I might have been imagining this, but ONE MORE THING: I think I saw TOR(!!!!) in line to get into Haute at the beginning of that whole club scene. Could it be?! I miss Tor. I was actually starting to like (in this case to be defined as “could stomach her better than most of the rest of the cast”) Replacement-Tor (Rachel)…until her porn debut. What the eff. (As a side note, I agree with magiclovemuffin: no penis during sexy time! But also, you know, no judgement if you like that kind of thing.)

    I also liked Sara last season, though I can’t really remember why anymore. Now that she has been taken over by a robot prostitute, however, she scares me. She has been equipped with the attention-seeking version of heat-seeking missiles. Or something.

    Oops, that was a couple more things. Time for bed. Where there are no cameras, nor spike heels, nor producers ordering masturbation, nor evil of any kind.

    Keep up the good work, all.

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    claire you are so hot why are you such a playa. also francine is pretty hot. and KELSEY GOD STOP DRINKING GET RID OF ROMI OMGGGGGGGGgggg. i want to steal kesleys wardrobe so bad. atleast i know it can be bought on a budget.

    i also -actually- watch this show because i know right after i watch it i after-party with these recaps and the laughing balances out the utter disdain i have watching awkward unnecessary reality-porn.

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      What cracks me up about that comment is that she has to know by doing this show that she has to come out to them now because surely her parents will find out it exists whether she tells them directly or someone else does. I hope they don’t all get together to watch it as a family, what with the multiple sex scenes and general asshatery that takes place each episode.

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    “Basically what we have here is a MENSA meeting. Just really intellectual, complicated people hashing out the issues of the day.”

    Hee! Actually, MENSA meetings are more about people sitting around playing board games and confusing their own personal tastes and preferences for objective fact. Or maybe that’s just the meetings I went to.

    My main feeling about this episode (which I can only judge from these recaps, but still) is that Romi’s behind-the-ear heart tattoo is super cute. This surprises me, since I usually don’t much care for hearts. In fact, I’m liking most of the tattoos on this show. There are some highly decorated ladies on there.

    ALSO! I’m really sad that Sajdah seems to regret her participation in the show so much. She seems like a really cool woman and it sucks that this didn’t turn out how she wanted.

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    Love your recaps.

    The only reason why I watch the show is because of Francine. She is beyond hot and from Hawaii. *raises the roof* I’m secretly hoping that she will end up with Vivian (or some other hot asian girl), leaving Claire all by her lonesome self.

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    “sidenote: most gay girls I know masturbate to straight porn, obvi, we like what we like, not an issue.”

    NEWSFLASH, they aren’t lesbians. Keep perpetuating the idea that most lesbians secretly desire dick though, it’s obviously really helping our community… NOT. I really wish I were a gay man sometimes, they don’t have to deal with shit like this.

    Of course now I’m expecting ten overly PC “lesbians” to comment on my comment preaching about how sexuality is ~fluid~ and you’re still a lesbian if you get off on watching straight and gay male porn.

    Sigh.

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      Oooh, can I be overly PC “lesbian” n°1?

      NEWSFLASH, preference in porn and fantasies =/= your actual real-life sex life. ie I love hardcore BDSM porn but in reality pain during sexy times is an instant turn-off for me, even gently biting will make me go from horny to pissed off. Being turned-on by seeing something doesn’t mean you’d be turned-on by performing it (I know, it may be hard to process for someone who thinks sex is unidimensional and want people to fit little rigid boxes, take your time).

      I’m a lesbian and I watch straight porn, because it’s the only kind of porn featuring femme women enjoying (or at least knowing) what they are doing and being sometimes in a position of power. “Girl-on-girl” porn for men is so ridiculous it’s not even sex, and real queer porn rarely features femmes (and when it does they always bottom and it’s always with butches/androgirls/FtM, and there’s a lot of fisting which I really don’t like).
      In order to appreciate it I need to focus on the girl and forget the guy or turn him into a mere prop in my mind though, which is easy because straight porn facilitates it (after all it’s made for straight guys, and they probs don’t like focusing on the man too).
      Now I have to say though, if a porn company would ever do REAL lesbian fistingless femme-on-femme porn I’d happily never watch straight porn ever again, but sadly I don’t think it’ll ever happen.

      Yes this whole post is TMI, but I least I had the guts to post it under my real username.

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        No one is saying that the lesbian porn out there is great, it’s not, but this doesn’t deflect from the fact that you and others who claim to be lesbians also admit to being turned on by porn featuring men. Sexual orientation is based on who or what arouses you, if a closeted gay man gets off to gay male porn every night and then goes and has sex with his wife, by your definition he is straight as that is his “actual real life sex-life”, do you not see what ridiculous nonsense that is?

        Also, BDSM is an invalid example, just because you are turned off by being the sub in real life, it does not mean you would not be turned on by seeing other people incorporate it into sex if you were watching in real life or if you were the domme. And being turned on by a few gagging devices is hardly comparable to being turned on by men, big difference there, whether you’re turned on by BDSM does not have any relevance to your sexual orientation.

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          I see that you didn’t understand anything to my post, since it was pretty clear to begin with I doubt you will understand much more with a more thorough explanation so I will give up here.
          Thank you for telling me who I am and what I get to call myself though, if I didn’t have random strangers on the internet to do it how would I manage? Obviously I can’t do such a thing myself. The world needs more people like you, you’re such a rare breed.

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          Pretending the person you’re replying to doesn’t understand your post because you know what they’re saying is true and you have no argument, very original.

          You can identify as a giraffe, hun, but saying it over and over again and telling everyone you’re a giraffe doesn’t make it any more true, in fact it just makes you look stupid. Keep calling yourself a lesbian though, you clearly don’t care about the damage you’re doing to real lesbians everywhere. I wish bisexuals like yourself were a rarer breed and didn’t insist on calling yourselves anything but bisexual, why does the b word scare you so much? Not edgy enough anymore?

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          “In order to appreciate it I need to focus on the girl and forget the guy or turn him into a mere prop in my mind though, which is easy because straight porn facilitates it (after all it’s made for straight guys, and they probs don’t like focusing on the man too).”

          I thought this was a pretty obvious explanation of how she can still watch straight-porn while not sexually desiring men. I think it’s you, Anon, who is afraid of any lesbian who doesn’t fit your standard because god forbid you have to share the name in an inclusive community.

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          It’s not about my “standard”, being a lesbian means being exclusively sexually attracted to women or has this definition suddenly changed overnight without me knowing? It hasn’t changed but people like you are pushing for it to change so that women who only desire women won’t have a label anymore. You should be ashamed of yourself.

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          “being a lesbian means being exclusively sexually attracted to women”

          As someone who is a solid 5.99 on the Kinsey scale (that .01 is because I was raised to never say never), I’ve got to point out: sexual arousal and sexual attraction aren’t synonymous. Getting hot thinking about / listening to / reading about / watching something doesn’t mean you want those things in real life. All it means is that it was stimulating enough for your mind to trigger a physical sexytimes response.

          I am concerned about lesbian erasure as a real issue in some contexts. But this? I can’t even.

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          Oh, okay. Right, I get it. YOU get to decide what constitutes a lesbian or not, because everyone here is very rigid and inflexible in their sexuality. Cool, I understand. I’m not good enough to consider myself a member of your exclusive “lesbian” club. Thanks for judging every single poster in here for not following your standards.

          And yes, it’s all about YOUR standard, because if you bothered to be a regular reader here, you would understand that many of us, and many lesbians, don’t believe that the term should restrict those to women who have only ever loved women forever and ever, amen. Open your mind and accept that our culture is changing to include more people, or at the very least, to understand that the world is not divided into pockets of 100% heterosexuals and 100% homosexuals. Pity us who do not have your narrow-focused definition of homosexuality.

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          A note to all the real lesbians out there, don’t let posers like the users above push us out of our community, stand up for yourselves and your sexual orientation. Women like the aforementioned posers will very likely all be married to men in a few years anyway, still identifying as lesbians of course because, that’s their thing.

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          woah, like, woah…

          Anon, you’ve just decided lesbian-identified women enjoying straight porn means they just want cock.

          Doesn’t that pretty much mean you have the same opinion as the large portion of straight men that you’re apparently rallying against?

          and these straight men have probably spent as little time as you have thinking about the meaning of constructions of sexual identity and society and other people thinking they can do that for you.

          Rachel called herself a ‘gold star lesbian’, as in she’s never slept with a man. She watches straight porn to get off, if she were bisexual, then she would just be bisexual.

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          @Paper0Flowers yeah, notice how “anon” pretends this paragraph (which was the core of my explanation) doesn’t exist and refuses to adress it? It’s fascinating how some people can bury their heads in denial.
          @Anon If you think that as soon as there are men involved, it all becomes about them and women stop to matter/exist, you have some deep seeded issues.

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          @GV “Denial” is one thing she’s burying her head in. I know this isn’t “my” argument, but I’m so fucking sick of people deciding how to label everyone else because of THEIR life experience and identity.

          There should definitely be an intro section for all new Autostraddlers: “What we think about Gender/Sexuality/Acceptance: Read before commenting.”

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          anon sounds like a male, straight, married, white American, spell; P-A-U-L-A B-R-O-O-K-S

          was just struck by the similarity of the self-righteous tone while reading the article on Heather’s blog (the wishful writer)

          end of off-topic random remark.

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        Not policing anything, dear, I don’t object to any woman watching straight or gay male porn, as long as they don’t go around incorrectly labeling themselves as lesbians, if you can’t see how damaging this is to those of us actual lesbians then you’re even more delusional than I thought. I’m only speaking out against this because it affects me and how people perceive lesbians.

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          What is an “actual lesbian”? I am really dykey and openly call myself a faggot so I’m not your average PC person but I don’t even know if you’d consider me an “actual lesbian” based on some of the choices I’ve made. I’m trying to see this from your perspective but I’m having a tough time. Please don’t take this as rude, I think this is a really interesting conversation.

          My biggest question is trying to understand how it negatively effects you that someone you don’t know calls herself a lesbian. Isn’t sexual orientation much more about what turns you on in reality than in thought or video? Maybe I can slightly understand the annoyance of you seeing women call themselves lesbians who then sleep with men or participate in relationships with men. Or maybe I cannot, I don’t think I care enough about other people’s lives enough to be annoyed by that. But no worries, I’ll give you that one. What I’m really lost about, though, is how getting off to watching straight porn or even gay male porn makes a woman who only sleeps with other women something other than a lesbian.

          And to take this further….how does this matter to your life? If you have a valid reason please share it, I really do want to know. Something tells me that the perception of lesbians you are going to bring up is that so many lesbians just need a dick. Do you think that a lesbian watching straight porn is really the breaking point for someone thinking that all lesbians just need a dick? Or is it possible that what sort of porn lesbians watch really does not affect the perception of lesbians? Do you walk around and talk about how you only watch a certain type of porn? Even to people who already might not have the best ideas about lesbians to begin with?

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      I mean “I guess I’m not a lesbian” because m&f porn (done right. not just pokey poke) can be as enticing as f&f. Hell I hate to admit this, but I sometimes watch m&m porn. I don’t know. Call me gender biased, but I like my lesbian porn to be soft and sensual and male sex to be “rough” which is why two guys doing the do can be a turn on. But you know all lesbians so you got it.

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      “NEWSFLASH, they aren’t lesbians. Keep perpetuating the idea that most lesbians secretly desire dick though, it’s obviously really helping our community…”

      “I wish bisexuals like yourself were a rarer breed and didn’t insist on calling yourselves anything but bisexual, why does the b word scare you so much?”

      Seriously, are you for realz? I was a self-denying closet case for so long and getting off watching straight porn was definitely not an exercise in dick-loving, let me tell you.

      I have NEVER been turned on by doing anything with a guy. Penises (and everything in that general region on a dude) are gross looking to me. I focus on the girl while watching straight porn. If the guy is being too loud, its a turn-off. If the girl isn’t actually getting off, it does nothing.

      Are you seriously calling me bisexual?

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    It it me or do these girls eat in every scene?
    It’s pretty much the opposite of PLL.

    Also, how are they talking about sperm at dinner? It seems counter-intuitive to me that a lesbian would eat food and talk about sperm.

    I’m only watching because of the recaps. You make me do that. Glee, PLL, The Real L Word — you could recap Sarah Palin’s Alaska (before it got axed, of course) and I would probably watch that junk, too. I hate your amazingness for that, but I love it much more when I’m watching all this junk with your recaps in mind.

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    Looking at that photo of not-pregnant Kacy makes me hope they’re not having fertility problems. Because that’s shitty even when anyone with premium cable knows intimate details of your search for a donor. :P

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    Where is Stamie and her babies??!???!?!? BRING BACK STAMIE AND TRACY! (And also that hot girl who Tracy was friends with and who was repairing a surfboard or something in the backyard?) More Hot Girls!

    Also, where are Rose and her bros? At least a stripper in a hotel room was more believable then one of Whitney’s bitches watching blowjobs because the W is too busy fucking Sadadahaaaaraaa.

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    I spotted Kreayshawn’s DJ sister L1L D3BB13 walking in the dog park with whit whit and que sera sera (get it??) ! (http://twitter.com/#!/L1LD3BB13)

    - At first I didn’t like Romi for not doting on Kelsey. But I get it now. When you’re the only one bringing home the bacon it’ll make even the most philandering dry up. That’s stressful. And she’s having a quarter life “my life isn’t where it should be!” crisis.

    -The show is getting a bit too gratuitous. I’m not a prude, but gosh I don’t need Black Swan XXX masturbating scenes and such explicitness. Even the L Word wasn’t this raunchy. I don’t. Maybe I’m not into voyeurism, but I judge people who show all of their business to the world for the sake of reality tv contract. I don’t know. I’m being judgmental. Sorry…

    - I never know what the little blonde one Claire is saying. But I like the way she dresses.

    -Sajdah calm your self down. You just met that chick.

    I miss Tracey from last season… Can’t we like follow Tracey and Amber Heard and Tasya Van Ree and Teyanna Taylor around? These girls are a bit too ratchet and/or too focused on poking each other with baby making sperm. I’m unnerved half the show and *yawn* the other half.

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    in short, this isn’t really a positive representation for the lesbian community. Season 2 has just gotten worse.

    btw, i think romi’s hairstyle is really hot (esp. the one during the motherly intervention going on)… that’s the only thing that keeps me infatuated with her i guess…

    poor korcy, their story here is really one-dimensional.. sperm-hunting all the way.. sheez!

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    I am actually watching the show (online as I live in the UK). Although I do find TRLW soul-destroying this season – season 1 was *bearable* – I do think it’s worth watching because 1: it makes Reise’s recaps even funnier to read & 2: I’d feel a bit hypocritical saying how bad it is without watching it. Maybe that’s just me.
    I have to sat that I really can’t stand Claire, I honestly don’t get why so many people seem to like her / think she’s cute. She’s obviously really manipulative, Francine could do way better. Also I have to say I find Kasey and Cori’s “storyline” mind-numbing. I swear the conversations they have are EXACTLY the ones Tibette had in s1 of TLW when they were trying to get pregnant.

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    I am with JMo. This show is lowbrow exploitation/trash. I am disgusted by it, and by the fact that Chaiken has sold out whatever priciples she might have had as a lesbian. This crap does NOT represent me, nor any other lesbian I know! But it has, so far, caused me to endure offensive remarks by straights on two separate occassions. so F**k you, Chaiken. and f**k you, Showtime. I just cancelled my subscription.

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      I’m actually thinking we should be writing GLAAD in protest and we should get Showtime/IFC’s gay pass revoked.

      Really, if this were being produced by someone straight (which it technically is – I think the Magical Elves are mostly straight and IFC is just dictating final cut but not in the day-to-day) would they be getting away with this shit?

      It’s pretty much showing us in the worst light possible with every stereotype there is under the premise that we all agree & support the portrayal. Which is exactly what GLAAD is against. (The stereotyping, worst light part.)

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          the most amazing part is the emails i’ve gotten from other people in the industry thanking me for taking a stand against IFC. nobody feels comfortable telling their own story in public – but i really can’t believe this woman still has a job.

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          You are brave. And I thank you too. I’ve managed to avoid her (and stay out of tv in general because I find most to be like her; film is much better imho) but the stories abound.

          The Hollywood lesbian mafia is real and it sucks! One of the things I hate most about living/working here. I hate to say that. We should all be working in a positive way together but it’s just not like that. They’re the clique from hell! And yeah, it is just like high school/Heathers.

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          Hollywood Lesbian Mafia?! Now there’s a movie! It can be a documentary like “Inside Job” except with executive lesbian realness which AS is famous for :P

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    I have a question for the interweb savvy, if we all google Ilene Chaiken and then go to the 3rd page of results and click the Autostraddle link like 100 time each, will that eventually make it so if IFC googles herself, the first result is Autostraddle?

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    why does it seem like alyssa brings up comments that whitney said off camera on purpose? it also seems like whitney tries to shut down the conversation when alyssa does bring up those comments. she lets the cameras record her almost naked having sex but wants to restrict her on-camera conversations?

    and who told showtime (or the producers, or whoever is responsible) that they wanted to see masturbation and explicit sex on camera like that? even if the audience is men, they could just buy porn, or watch for free online, instead of paying for showtime to see this show.

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    Honestly this is such a BAD portrait on Lesbians. You start the show with women having sex. What reality show starts out with a sex scene besides a porn. I have seen all of these women’s breast and it is only episode TWO!!! Please Showtime STOP objectifying women and Honestly Ladies stop playing yourself short by showing intimate moments, because I enjoy the story not the sex.

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    oh shit ! Am I the only one who watch TRLW2 ?
    Guilty pleasure or should I get a life ?!? Okay, I admit, I like to watch the show ( with frequent pauses to walk away and say WTF, OMG, Am I really seeing this? , Don’t the characters have any decency?, Are they acting or are they plain stupid? )

    When you have nothing interesting or good to say, just say something ridiculous or stupid! It works as well.

    - I can’t understand how they can be so attached to their sperm.

    - You are ovulating next month. ( really?!?)

    - I like getting it off by seeing whores sucking dicks. ( seriously, do we really need to know this information and worse witness it too )

    - I am bipolar but you have a drinking problem. ( or forget it, just bring my food and my alcohol)

    - I don’t ask you for money, just money for the bus fare.

    - I want to get away from all this lesbian drama. ( i prefer washing my dirty laundry in front of cameras not in front of drunk lesbians)

    XXX

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    i am a lesbian and i really don’t wanna watch ‘penis’ so does it make me inhuman? really what’s wrong with us? if some girl says she would sleep with a dick and claims to be a lesbian then okay, but if some girl says she is a lesbian who isn’t roused by penis then she is termed as some ‘asshole’ Why? this type of arguing isn’t really ‘neutral’ because you are automatically taking sides when you say ‘asshole’ to somebody who identifies as a lesbian and really doesn’t feels like watching a cock or sleeping with a man. The thing that there is so much negativity now-a-days regarding lesbians who really don’t feel like going down on men is something i don’t understand. Look sexuality means how you feel naturally, i feel ‘lesbian’ because men don’t attract me sexually and so i don’t get roused by them in any way. I get roused to see two women and that’s all i want to see. If there are some man on woman thing going on on Teevee then i would simply change the channel because i don’t feel into it. That’s how i feel naturally. But if there is some woman-on-woman action, i stick on it. That’s how i feel. When you shout at somebody who feel like ‘Anon’ and me here what you are saying is that sexuality isn’t ‘natural’ but a choice. And see that’s what we are fighting for that it’s NATURAL for me that i don’t ‘feel’ like going down on men but on women and it’s not my ‘choice’ but when you call people like me ‘ass holes’ or ‘exclusively lesbians’ then it tell that you are supporting the thing that sexuality is a ‘choice’ or a ‘lifestyle’ which doesn’t come naturally. Everyone has a right to say how they feel as per freedom of speech but unfortunately these rights are violated when a lesbian who doesn’t naturally feels like bisexual wants to speak her thoughts. If you are a bisexual lesbian then it’s cool but if you are a homosexual lesbian then you are regarded as somebody conservative? Why? I mean there are lesbians who really don’t want penis, what’s wrong it that? why are you shouting at those women who are simply saying what they naturally feel like? How can you compare them with Paula Brooks? isn’t it a kind of lesbian bashing? or should I now have to start another community parade saying- PLEASE DON’T HATE ME LESBIANS AS I DON’T WANT TO PENIS! PLEASE ACCEPT ME AS YOU COMMUNITY EVEN THOUGH I REALLY DON’T WANT PENIS, I RESPECT THEM WITH ALL MY HEART BUT I REALLY DON’T WANNA GO DOWN ON THEM BECAUSE IT DOESN’T COME NATURALLY TO ME (BELIEVE ME, IT DOESN’T) SO PLEASE CONSIDER ME HUMAN AND A GOOD LESBIAN WHO IS NOT PENIS-CENTRIC BUT ALSO NOT AN A-HOLE.PLEASE ACCEPT ME IN YOU COMMUNITY WITHOUT ASKING ME TO PROVE MY OPENMINDEDNESS BY LIKING A PENIS (WITH DUE RESPECT, IT REALLY DOESN’T TURN ME ON)

    another side note-WILL I HAVE TO SLEEP WITH A GUY NOW TO PROVE THAT I AM A LESBIAN?
    just saying. You can throw me outa here but then i really won’t have any place to go because i don’t belong to the hetero community but now i have lost my homos too since i cannot like a penis which is like some new requirement to prove that you are an open minded human lesbian.

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      Um, it’s the internet. You can’t get banished from a website. And what’s with the rant? Seriously. Your sexuality is your own. You define it for yourself. If you want to watch a gay male orgy, you can still be a lesbian. You can be turned on by sexuality that is not your own. So there you have it! I hereby allow you to come to this website and play with yourself to whatever you want by the power vested in me by my own damn self.

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    also i HATE THE REAL L WORD because it missed totally what it could have done for us- like telling people that we are good human beings. They should have centered more on relationships then sex (just sex in this case) see i am a lesbian who likes gasp-’only’ women and yet i am sensible and not totally inhuman. And i am not Paula Brooks, also i am not giving my real identity because i am not out to my people yet, i live in very conservative culture. So please don’t doubt my authenticity as lesbian as i mentioned not wanting penis and not wanting to use my real name instead of a pseudo.

    Am i still allowed here? just wanna know. Where am I supposed to go if i am not even allowed here?

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    PLEASE PPL DON’T CALL ME A ‘GUY’, ‘HOAX’, ‘EXCLUSIVELY LESBIAN’ OR PAULA BROOKS ONLY BECAUSE I SAID THAT PENIS DON’T ROUSE ME NATURALLY BECAUSE SERIOUSLY THAT’S HOW I FEEL, (I AM HERE TALKING ONLY ABOUT ‘MY’ FEELINGS AND HOW ‘I’ FEEL, NOT OF EVERYBODY BECOZ EVERYBODY IS NOT ME)PLEASE I AM A REAL WOMAN WHO LOVES WOMEN (‘LESBIAN’ IF IT’S STILL THE CORRECT TERM) BUT PLEASE DON’T DOUBT ME COZ IT REALLY HURTS, HURTS MORE THEN WHEN SOME JERK HOMOPHOBIC HETERO SAYS THAT I AM INHUMAN BECAUSE I DON’T LIKE THE OPPOSITE!

    please that’s the way i was born and i didn’t chose to be like that. I really tried hard to be with men but it was devastating for me. So please don’t throw me out of here or think that i am CONSERVATIVE.

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    GREENLUV1322 Ur awesome!!! I mean I do think there are aspects of the show that are so UNREALISTIC but what reality show is completely real? Like I’m sure everyone frm new jersey doesn’t act like the cast frm the jersey shore but its just a show. Let’s just take it for wat it is :)

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    Ever since Claire said that lesbians aren’t the birkenstock wearing lesbians anymore and I realize…..wait…..I AM A BIRKENSTOCK WEARING LESBIAN…. and now I want some basic fashion advice from her…or anyone…. someday I wanna move out west and I don’t think i’m fashionable enough for that….haha…. my hippie vermont style isn’t cutting it…..

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