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Cameron is an illustrator hailing from Ohio. When she’s not drawing, she’s probably very, very quietly having loud thoughts about: queer things, her eventual shop, what to watch next on Netflix, food, names for her future pets, and tumblr.
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Ha! I almost never make first moves, either. But I did once this time after I invited a woman over at the end of a date to watch Star Trek Voyager. She kept trying to make eye contact and get close enough to kiss me during the episode, but I was intent on making her watch the whole thing. So after it was over, I kissed her!
I count it as a first move even though I knew she had been trying to kiss me prior, which is the only reason I had enough bravery to do it myself. I suppose it really shouldn’t count. :)
But now we’re dating, so I consider it a success story.
Counts enough as a first move for me. Congrats!
Way to boldly go. :D
Hahaha omg Cameron hahah!!
What I forgot until just now is that I also used probably The Worst Pick-up Line to ever enter the cosmic ledger of human utterances
But I think this is enough sharing for one day.
Ugh, I relate so hard to is “predatory lesbian”-fear…
Loved this. Funny, but also a really great point about internalized homophobia.
First move fears! I have such a hard time telling the difference between “Is she just being nice to me or is she into me too?” that I just kind of freeze up and never get anywhere real. Kinda sucks that I feel so clueless that I need to have the other woman make the first move so I know it’s OK.
Yes! Fear of being creepy is a thing.
My move is to just be awkward and say, hey, I want to kiss you. Is that okay?
It usually works. ?
Yep. All of the above, plus fear of “predatory” trans stereotypes and fear of terf-y backlash from the potential partner makes this trans lesbian very uncomfortable with first moves.
Come to think of it, that’s most trans lesbians I know, too…
one day we will live in a world where terfs are classified as a hate group, people aren’t terrifyingly shitty, and dating/flirting makes sense. that is the dream.
So much this, especially as my presentation is pretty visually, aggressively gay. When you’re advertising with neon lights, it feels like overkill to add on a jingle.
Ughhhh I’m like constitutionally allergic to making anyone feel uncomfortable in any situation ever, to the point where I’m sure I’ve actually ended up offending people with my layers and layers of distant reservedness. I’m working on it, but it’s such a lifelong ingrained instinct that it takes a lot of conscious effort to move past it. In my case, it has helped me to recognize that it’s as much a protective impulse for myself as it is about protecting the other person’s feelings, and that I probably needed that in the past but it’s not serving me well anymore so it’s time to let it go.
idk who told you it was okay to post excerpts from my diary but
Sorrryyyy
In my limited experience getting (or attempting to get) involved with women, I have experienced a variety of tactics that I’m happy to share here (so that you youngsters may benefit from my wisdom).
Things I have done:
1 – talked with the object of my desire about our mutual feelings until they gave up and died of frustration (the feelings, not the girl)
2 – made her a mix tape
3 – silently thought she was the coolest person I’d ever met and never, ever said or did anything to indicate that
Techniques that women have tried on me:
1 – dated my brother
2 – told me they had a crush on me
3 – invited me to an AIDs walk
4 – made me a mix tape
Cry-laughing at #1.
This is an impressive list! Once a girl had her friend txt me that she(the girl, not the txt sender) wanted me to kiss her(while we were all standing together), but I was a dumb baby and didn’t know how to smoothly transition into kissing somebody smiling so hard so… I don’t go to that bar anymore
This made me laugh out loud for real.
I’m curious how the one who thought she could sell you with the brother-datin’ made her pitch!? Was it in a closet at thanksgiving??
To be fair, I think she was honestly attracted to both of us, but it was the 1980s, we all met at church camp, and dating my brother was really the only viable option. And 15 and 16 year old me would not have known what to do if she made an actual move on me.
She and I stayed friends and then we both came out as bi in college, which how I know we had mutual crushes on each other back in the day. Post college I employed tactic #1 and we discussed getting together but never did, because it was a little too weird.
Your #3 is pretty much the entirety of my playbook. It works out… about as well as you’d expect.
This is quality information.
I feel so called out right now.
But in all seriousness this is EXACTLY ME, esp right now when there’s a girl I like and I’m pretty sure she likes me too but every time I think about making a move I imagine a scenario where she’s like “WHOA WHOA I WAS NOT GIVING THOSE VIBES I DON’T LIKE YOU LIKE THAT”
Let’s just say I’ve been thinking a lot about the predatory lesbian thing lately and how much I’ve really really internalized it even though it’s BULLSHIT.
I relate to this so much! But, last time I met an amazing woman I thought, wth, I’m going to make a move. Don’t get me wrong, it took me a long time, especially because we’d met through work, and I was only like 80% sure she was queer. And there’s no way a lady like her doesn’t have a girlfriend/maybe wife, and maybe she’d be insulted if I made a move because she was way out of my league and also the next two leagues above me, and what if she thought I was too young, and…..
So I asked her out, and we ended up dating, and it was amazing. Just amazing. ASK HER OUT, Autostraddlers!
I love this so much.