New “Game Of Thrones” Lesbian Power Couple Or New Dead Lesbian: A Special Scientific Investigation

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Game of Thrones returns on Sunday, and from the looks of things, it’s going to be a delightful time for us all. Two important items:

  1. At the end of last season, Daenerys Targaryen and Yara Greyjoy bantered and made serious flirty eyes at each other while forming an alliance.
  2. A recent trailer shows Yara and Ellaria Sand kissing on the mouth, which the more hopeful parts of the internet are interpreting as the formation of a new lesbian power couple.

Here’s that trailer! The kiss is at 1:22.

If you haven’t been following along at home, I’ll be honest: this is a tough show to catch up with. It has a huge cast of characters, everyone has very complicated motivations, and the show often moves at a breathtakingly ridiculous pace. Marathoning the show with a detail-oriented friend is probably the best way to catch up. Short of that: the basic premise is that we’re in medievalish times, magic is real, and everyone is fighting with everything they’ve got to gain power and have their family rule the seven kingdoms.

Early on in the show, Ellaria (a widowed, unofficial princess of Dorne), was established as bisexual and polyamorous during a visit to the brothel with her lover Prince Oberyn Martel. A couple seasons later, Yara (Queen of the Ironborns, a grim, seafaring people), was also shown with a female sex worker. In my eyes, these two are the most prominent, canonically queer women in the TV series. Daenerys (Queen Across the Sea and mother of three literal dragons) had a brief thing with her handmaid Doreah, but it largely focused on learning how to please her new husband, which feels categorically different to me. Maybe you disagree! Here’s some nuanced discussion about the show’s lesbian representation, if you’re interested.

Or if you’re just interested in the kissing:

Ellaria is aggressively kissing Yara and it's not clear whether Yara is kissing back

Yara and Ellaria. Via Winter Is Coming.

Now onto the current order of the day. Does this look like a lesbian power couple to you? I’m not so sure. Ellaria’s definitely getting in there, but it’s not clear to me whether Yara is kissing back. Is that lust on her face, or is she opening her mouth in surprise/protest? We obviously need more information, but here’s my theory: what we’re looking at is actually another dead TV lesbian in the making, because this is a murder scene. DUN DUN DUN.

Here’s what we know.

Poison At The Purple Wedding

The first major poisoning we see within the Game of Thrones universe takes place at King Joffrey’s “purple wedding.” In S4E2, “The Lion and the Rose,” we see Joffrey largely ignore his new wife Margaery, choosing instead to threaten and belittle his uncle Tyrion. Following an ominous back-and-forth where Joffrey forces Tyrion to serve him wine, we see Joffrey cough, tense up, gasp for air, fall to the ground, vomit, convulse, and turn purple. Blood leaks out of his nose and bloodshot eyes, and in less than two minutes, he’s dead. The murder plot is a bit difficult to piece together through the show alone, but it’s very clear the books: Lady Olenna Tyrell slipped a poison known as “the strangler” into Joffrey’s wine to help her granddaughter Margaery take full control of the throne.

The strangler, of course, is entirely fictional, as it is made from the leaves of a plant found in the Jade Sea of Essos. We do, however, see some striking similarities between the strangler’s description and a real world toxic alkaloid. Here’s analytical chemist Dr. Raychelle Burks to explain:

Yup, it’s strychnine! Some facts straight from the CDC:

  • Strychnine is a strong poison; only a small amount is needed to produce severe effects in people. Strychnine poisoning can cause extremely serious adverse health effects, including death.
  • The extent of poisoning caused by strychnine depends on the amount and route of strychnine exposure and the person’s condition of health at the time of the exposure.
  • Strychnine prevents the proper operation of the chemical that controls nerve signals to the muscles. The chemical controlling nerve signals works like the body’s “off switch” for muscles. When this “off switch” does not work correctly, muscles throughout the body have severe, painful spasms. Even though the person’s consciousness or thinking are not affected at first (except that the person is very excitable and in pain), eventually the muscles tire and the person can’t breathe.

People exposed to high doses of strychnine may reach respiratory failure within the first 15 to 30 minutes of exposure. Other immediate effects may include agitation, apprehension or fear, restlessness, uncontrollable arching of the neck and back, rigid arms and legs, jaw tightness, difficulty breathing, dark urine, painful muscle spasms possibly leading to fever and to kidney and liver injury, and/or muscle pain and soreness. Nosebleeds aren’t mentioned, but it certainly makes for a striking visual. And it doesn’t disqualify strychnine, so I’m going to go ahead and say close enough.

Returning to the scene of the crime, you’ll note that Ellaria was nowhere near Joffrey or Olenna during the events, nor did she have anything to do with the transportation of the poison via a light blue gem on Sansa’s necklace. She was in attendance at the wedding, though, so we can surmise that she either witnessed the death or became aware of the very high profile poisoning shortly thereafter.

The Assassination of Myrcella

In the next poisoning of a Lannister heir, Ellaria takes a much more active role. In S5E10, “Mother’s Mercy,” we see Ellaria give Princess Myrcella a long, uncomfortable kiss on the lips as she says goodbye. Minutes later (the timeline is unclear because the implied rowboat travel to meet the larger ship takes place off screen, but it seems safe to assume 20 minutes or less), Myrcella gasps for breath, blinks confusedly as blood drips from her nose, and collapses into a quick death in her father’s arms. Back on the dock, Ellaria wipes away a very similar looking nosebleed, then removes the dark purple lipstick she had on while she was kissing Myrcella. She pulls a vial of light blue liquid from her necklace, takes a swig, and walks away, apparently no worse for the wear.

Here’s the full scene:

Unfortunately on this one there’s no corresponding book scene, so we have limited information about the toxin used. From previous plot points, we do know that Ellaria had access to lots of knowledge about poisons. Until Oberyn’s untimely end, Ellaria was romantically involved with “The Red Viper,” who studied poison at the citadel and used a spear dipped in manticore venom to painfully putrefy Gregor Clegane’s flesh.

Manticores don’t exist in real life (as far as we know), but we do have snakes, scorpions, and many other creatures with painful, deadly venom! Here’s National Geographic with wilderness medicine doctor Dr. Luanne Freer:

Within the GoT universe, we’ve been told that the effects of manticore venom cannot be stopped, only slowed, so it’s very unlikely that Ellaria would have chosen to expose herself in the process of poisoning Myrcella. A far more likely candidate is the poison Ellaria’s daughter Tyene uses in S5E7, “The Gift.” Tyene stabs Bronn in combat and taunts him when he slumps to the floor with a nosebleed not long after, explaining:

My dagger was coated with a special ointment from Asshai. They call it the Long Farewell. It takes time to work, but if a single drop makes contact with the skin, death.

Only after Bronn agrees that Tyene is the most beautiful woman in the world does she toss him the vial of light blue liquid antidote. His breathing returns to normal and he eventually makes it out alive. And that is all the information we have about the poison at this point! I looked up Asshai in a few Game of Thrones wikis, and it appears the city is in the far southeast of the continent of Essos, on the eastern shore of the Jade Sea.

Wait, hang on… that’s a weird coincidence. Could the strangler and the long farewell the same poison?

The Strangler and the Long Farewell

We know that both the strangler and the Long Farewell come from the same geographic location. When administered orally, they result in similar effects (gasping for breath, loss of muscle control, and nosebleeds). We don’t know what the strangler looks like, but we did see a container it was held in: a light blue gem on Sansa’s necklace. We also don’t know what the Long Farewell looks like (possibly Ellaria’s purple lipstick, possibly some inconspicuous liquid on her finger), but we do see the antidote: a light blue liquid, contained in Ellaria’s necklace vial. The antidote to the Long Farewell is in an opaque blue necklace, but when we see Ellaria remove the vial, the liquid appears light blue, similar in shade to Sansa’s necklace. Hmm!

Getting back to our theory that the strangler is a fictionalized version of strychnine, what does that tell us about the antidote? According to the CDC, there is no specific antidote for strychnine toxicity, but “treatment consists of removing the drug from the body (decontamination) and getting supportive medical care in a hospital setting. Supportive care includes intravenous fluids (fluids injected directly into a vein), medications for convulsions and spasms, and cooling measures for high temperature.” So if you’re poisoned by strychnine in real life, get yourself to a hospital; there is no instacure magic potion. Within the GoT universe, though, our frame of reference isn’t modern medicine, but medieval. And in those days, poison hemlock was the drug of choice to reverse strychnine effects.

Poison hemlock.

Like strychnine, poison hemlock is also a toxic alkaloid that can induce respiratory failure in humans. While strychnine enhances synaptic transmission to the end result of convulsive muscular contractions, though, coniine (the alkaloid of interest in poison hemlock) tends to relax and paralyze muscles. During medieval times, it was applied to “reverse” the effects of strychnine by visibly relieving muscle spasms. It isn’t a true antidote (nor is it blue), but again, I’m going to go ahead and say say close enough.

Power Couple, Dead TV Lesbian, or Both?

So now we have two suspected poisons, one of which is also an antidote. Why the two blue necklaces? It could be a weird coincidence. Or! What about this:

  • Joffrey was poisoned by the strangler, aka. fictionalized strychnine.
  • Joffrey’s poison was stored in the rightmost jewel of Sansa’s necklace, which was given to her by the Tyrells (which Olenna took the poison jewel off of and emptied or crushed into Joffrey’s wine).
  • Inside one or more of the other jewels in Sansa’s necklace was the “antidote,” poison hemlock. Olenna would have wanted to keep some on hand in case Margaery accidentally drank the poisoned wine, but she wouldn’t have wanted to have it on her person, because it would be suspicious if she was caught with a poison.
  • The jewels of the necklace were purposefully chosen for their light blue shade so that nobody would notice the hidden antidote.
  • Myrcella was poisoned by the Long Farewell, aka. fictionalized strychnine.
  • Myrcella’s poison was mixed with Ellaria’s dark purple lipstick, which transferred lips when Ellaria kissed Myrcella goodbye.
  • After administering the poison, Ellaria wiped it off of her lips to limit contact, then gave herself some “antidote”, aka. fictionalized poison hemlock.
  • We don’t have any reason at this point to believe that Ellaria would want to kill Yara (we don’t even how or why they get together), except that Yara is allied with Daenerys, and Ellaria is a wild card who seems to be primarily driven by vengeance at this point.
  • Maybe Ellaria wants to get with Dany, and Yara “Shane of Westeros” is in the way? Maybe Ellaria is just an aggressive kisser and not a killer? Maybe Ellaria gets with Dany and Yara both, and there is no problem here except that it isn’t Sunday yet, and a girl can only live so much through a sub 1 second clip of decontextualized kissing?

I hope it’s the third option, but I feel like it’s probably the first one. What do you think? Do you have any other theories or wild predictions for this season?

Via Oohlo.

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  1. Loving the analysis of the poisons, that was a really interesting read! I do love my TV in-depth analysis articles :)
    I’m really hoping Yara won’t die (or indeed end up with someone as murderous as Ellaria), she’s one of the few I’m hoping will live to make it to the end, but I know GoT does’t shy away from killing well liked characters…
    So psyched for the new series! Will have to try and make it through work on Monday without seeing the episode as I think it airs at about 2am UK time, and I can’t get as emotionally invested in a public setting!

    • I didn’t read this article at first because I’m pretty much over Game of Thrones (at least the TV series, I might read the next book if and when it comes out), but I saw your comment on the sidebar about “analysis of the poisons,” and I couldn’t resist. I’m fascinated by portrayals of poisons in fiction. Deborah Blum has a great blog on Wired called Elemental (sadly no longer updated, but the archives were still up last I checked) that has lots of posts on poisons, and she wrote a book about the coroners who developed the techniques to catch poisoners in the real world.

      • @alienchangeling Oh my god, Deborah Bum’s work is so excellent. The Poisoner’s handbook is one of my all time favorite pieces of science writing; I had it on my bed while I was writing this article.

        (It doesn’t cover strychnine, if you were wondering. I had hoped it would, because her detailed descriptions are magnificent.)

  2. This was quite impressive! Your evidence is strong however, being GOT loved to surprise us with their deaths I don’t believe they would outright show a death in the trailer. We most likely are destined to lose one or both of these ladies at some point unfortunately. But I think with where the stakes are at the end of last season, it’s in neither of their interest to kill the other. Yara brings almost the entire fleet of ships and Ellaria’s number 1 priority is her revenge against the Lanisters. It would not be in her interest to weaken Danaerys fleet as they are now all on the same side. However, I could see someone killing off Yara to weaken Ellaria or vis versa, if they are to be a thing this season.

  3. Wow Laura this is a great analysis. I am impressed.
    I was excited for Yara and Ellaria (and Dany) but now not so much. What I am excited about is the beginning of the season and, most of all, my Straddler watch party. I’m bringing popcorn and maybe pizza

  4. this is precisely the in-depth information i want about this show: thoughtful dissection of only the content relevant to my interest. into it.

  5. I was pretty bummed when George R.R. Martin took issue with Yara being depicted as queer, insisting he hadn’t written her as such. I’m glad to see she’ll be kissing at least one lady! I tend to agree with Fey that it’s unlikely they’d want to kill each other with alliances where they are, so fingers crossed it’s a power couple situation. That said, VERY into this deep analysis and excellent theorizing.

    • He’s involved with writing the show! If he didn’t want her depicted as queer, it means he got voted down. So take that, George.

  6. I feel like generally ‘de-contextualised kissing in a trailer’ is like the number one signal shows give that means ‘we’re killing this lesbian’ but that’s an entirely different investigation I guess. At the very least I think we’re watching a Nefarious Plan Being Carried Out. But maybe Yara out-maneuvers Ellaria?

    Maybe Daenerys has Ellaria barbecued by a dragon in revenge I mean truly who knows what will happen except that everyone will die a violent death.


    I am so attracted to Ellaria Sand that I would still make out with her even if she was trying to kill me. THERE ARE WORSE WAYS TO GO.

    But having said that I do hope she’s not trying to kill Yara. That possibility never even occurred to me, but this analysis is so thorough I’m completely convinced now.

  8. As much as love poisons and science I hate this version of Ellaria so fucking much, she’s just not Ellaria to me because at her core she is a lover not a destroyer. But no let’s make her a vicious killer femme fatale so they don’t have to bother with Doran, Trystan, or Arianne and the Myrcella plot.

    She gives one of the heart breaking speeches in the books to Obara, Nymeria, and Tyene about vengeance:

    “Oberyn wanted vengeance for Elia. Now the three of you want vengeance for him.
    I have four daughters, I remind you. Your sisters. My Elia is fourteen, almost a woman. Obella is twelve, on the brink of maidenhood.
    They worship you, as Dorea and Loreza worship them. If you should die, must El and Obella seek vengeance for you, then Dorea and Loree for them?
    Is that how it goes, round and round forever? I ask again, where does it end? I saw your father die. Here is his killer. Can I take a skull to bed with me, to give me comfort in the night? Will it make me laugh, write me songs, care for me when I am old and sick?”

    Ellaria’s like fuck the cycle of violence, it’s not a way to live.
    And another thing; the show really missed the boat with The Mountain’s death. Oberyn’s spear was coated in manticore venom thickened with sorcery which created like a necrotic infection with very slow sort of sepsis going on.
    It was the best most awful poisoning in the whole book series, screams of agony that keep everybody in the Red Keep awake and it takes days for him to “die”. They could have done some of it off screen but noooo.

    Sorry Laura just my feelings couldn’t hold them in.

    • I came here to say this. Also I hate hate hate they way their daughters are being written and the erasure of Arianne.

  9. Ellaria is poly? I watched the video linked and it just like they were in an open relationship.

  10. I am SO INTO THIS, please more scientific analysis of everything queer pertaining to this show. Pretty sure at the end of the last season I was all about 3 queens ruling together; Sansa, Dani & Yara. I just want everything to be gay, I think

    • I just want Arya and Brienne to go on adventures together. Is that too much to ask…

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