Glee Is Probably Returning For Another Season Of Slow Water Torture, Etc.

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Naya Rivera at the TCA Fox All-Star Party

During The Television Critics Association‘s winter press tour this week, Fox Entertainment chairman Kevin Reilly “expressed confidence” in the future of everybody’s favorite show-you-used-to-like-a-lot, Glee.

Craving a little more time with the new characters whose names I’ve already forgotten? You’ll be pleased as a porcupine to hear that Ryan Murphy and Brad Falchuk are in talks with Reilly for Season Five, which — thank the stars! — “opens the door for Oxygen’s reality competition The Glee Project to return for a third season.”

Reilly said he’s been enjoying the New York/Lima dual storylines, finding them “seamless,” and not just because they’re paying him to say that. Furthermore:

“I do think if we can continue to follow a broad array of characters, it’s like life: You have relationships, you have friends — they go off, their lives go on, and you get together and maybe you maintain a friendship, maybe you lose distance. I think we can do that within this world of people you followed.

Some of them have moved on to other things or wanted to move on to other things, but they love the show, and this gives them a chance to come back and do an arc. It would be fun to continue that morphing.”

When asked if the series might relocate entirely from an Ohio-themed soundstage in Los Angeles to the set of Friends, Reilly noted that he’d have to “talk to Ryan and see where he’s at right now. I don’t know. I wonder — could it and should it naturally move [to New York]? But we have to talk about it.”

At the TCA Fox All-Star Party, queer questions abounded. According to Afterellen, somebody asked Glee star Lea Michele about the possibility of a romance between her and Quinn Fabray happening onscreen (the storyline currently plays out exclusively in wildly popular fan fiction communities but has yet to break into the network mainstream), to which she responded: “Yeah, that’s so funny. People — I don’t know. They think it’s like a thing. Well, I mean — Rachel’s in New York now with Kurt and stuff like that so….”

Everybody seems to be forgetting about the Metro-North pass!

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Naya Rivera also spoke to Afterellen.com about whether or not we’d ever see her beautiful face on our television screen again:

“I’ll definitely making up for lost time in the episode we’re currently shooting, and then I’ll be around for the rest of the season. I was excited. I love the new format, I love all of the new kids they’ve brought on to McKinley. It allows the character [Santana] to grow and that’s important.”

Regarding Brittany & Sam, sitting in a tree, K-I-S-S-I-N-G-W-A-Y-T-O-O-E-A-R-L-Y, Naya had this to say:

“Obviously Santana doesn’t like when things don’t go her way. Even though she was the one that sort of called it off, I guess, she’s still not happy about that. You’ll get to see how that plays out.

Brittany’s found someone else so I would only hope that Santana has grown as well and maybe see what else is out there. Maybe [she’ll find someone else]. You never know!”

Jane Lynch told AfterEllen that it’d be wise for Santana to shack up with a lady who knows how to spell, and shared her thoughts about Ryan’s intentions with the Brittany storyline:

“I hope she can grow up and have a mature relationship with someone who wants to be with her. The Brittany/Santana thing — I think what Ryan was showing was orientation for some people is fluid, it’s not over in this homosexual category, or this heterosexual category and I like that message. Because there people out there who feel that way as well — that it’s the person they fall in love with. So that was nice to see that, but I do hope that Santana will move on and I bet she will. She’s going to have a grown up relationship. She’s gonna go all lesbo. We just did an episode where she’s gotta decide where her life is going to take her and it’s not cheerleading school in Louisville. It’s elsewhere.”

I really hope that it’s “The Planet.”

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i shook the lesbian phone tree and this is what came out

Glee opened Season Four with relatively decent ratingsThe New Rachel snagged 7.41 million U.S. viewers and took first place in the 18-49 demographic, followed by an impressive uptick towards 7.46 million for “Britney 2.0.” Since those first two episodes, however, the show has been vacillating in the 5-to-6 million range, a huge drop from its initial two seasons spent in the 8-to-10 million range. In fact, Glee‘s eight lowest-rated episodes of all time happened this season, with Dynamic Duets bringing up the rear with a depressive 4.62 million viewers.

Many suggest iTunes sales influence renewal decisions — numbers which have possibly also been slipping as of late, with Glee‘s most recent albums failing to crack the Top 20 despite all previous albums never charting below the top ten. But it’s possible that new methods of Billboard rankings, which now account for radio play as well, are responsible for the variance in chart-toppers. 

I endeavor to suggest that Glee’s ongoing existence is directly related to my increasing distaste for the program, which I have an ethical and statistical obligation to recap for this website — as proven by the continued renewal of Showtime’s embarrassing reality program The Real L Word despite general suckage and low ratings, a show I hate recapping even more than I hate recapping Glee.

However, I recognize that the world does not, in fact, revolve around me, and perhaps the show’s renewal is simply due to its relative superiority rather than its absolute superiority. A passionate Glee tumblrer did the math and determined that even with the present ratings, the show still makes good money. Glee still out-performs Fox’s other non-animated scripted shows aside from The New Girl — hell, it out-ranks the final season of The Office on Thursday nights. Plus, the show will soon be up for syndication. Glee has also, obviously, taken on great cultural relevance despite its 567 faults, including but not limited to that Potato and also misogyny.

I also recognize that if cancellation didn’t free me from recapping Glee, I’d probably be really upset about it, if only because I still enjoy the musical numbers even when the plot often inspires me to get off the couch and lock myself in the bathroom until it’s over.

Perhaps Fox could hear the people sing? After all, low ratings haven’t tarnished fan enthusiasm — last night, Lea Michele and Chris Colfer snagged People’s Choice Awards for Best Comedic TV Actress and Actor.

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In his acceptance speech, Colfer thanked the fans and noted that being handed an award by Ellen DeGeneres is “just incredible.”

Lea thanked the Gleeks and, kindly, everybody who voted for her. “What you guys can do together, it’s unbelievable,” Lea noted.

I’d like to end on these notes, from Ryan Murphy’s twitter:

Ah yes. Pregnancy plots are clearly what this show does best. Also, this:

In other words: “Don’t stop believing, hold on to that feeling.”

Riese is the 38-year-old Co-Founder and CEO of Autostraddle.com as well as an award-winning writer, blogger, fictionist, copywriter, video-maker, low-key Jewish power lesbian and aspiring cyber-performance artist who grew up in Michigan, lost her mind in New York and then headed West. Her work has appeared in nine books including "The Bigger the Better The Tighter The Sweater: 21 Funny Women on Beauty, Body Image & Other Hazards Of Being Female," magazines including Marie Claire and Curve, and all over the web including Nylon, Queerty, Nerve, Bitch, Emily Books and Jezebel. She had a very popular personal blog once upon a time, and then she recapped The L Word, and then she had the idea to make this place, and now here we all are! In 2016, she was nominated for a GLAAD Award for Outstanding Digital Journalism. Follow her on twitter and instagram.

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48 Comments

  1. Thanks for the mention and linking to my tumblr!

    I just wanted to clarify something though – I am in no way, shape, or form a passionate Glee tumblrer. I’m a passionate Faberry tumblrer. I can’t stand Glee anymore (I stopped watching near the end of season 2), and its cancellation can’t come soon enough, IMO. But, sadly, that doesn’t appear to be happening any time soon.

  2. I was a HUGE fan of Glee during season one. I remember being absolutely sad when season one ended and I couldn’t wait for season two to start. And when it did start I was so happy it felt like I had a dream come true or something.

    It’s vastly different from my reaction when Season 3 started, because I was like “Oh, the premiere aired already?” and continued with my life without even bothering to look for sneak peeks and stuff like that. During season 3 though, despite the fact that I’ve stopped watching, I still downloaded the songs and bought the albums. Back then, I didn’t want Glee to be cancelled because even though I stopped watching I still enjoyed listening to their songs.

    But now? In season 4 they’ve replaced the original cast with their wannabes (they might as well get the “mini-me”s of the cast to replace them). The songs are not all that creative anymore. They rarely recompose songs for their covers. The group numbers aren’t really that good. And a whole number of reasons that a lot of it you’ve mentioned.

    I still have trouble letting it go completely because I still remember how in-love I was with Glee. Although I have a feeling that the day where I will absolutely forget Glee and not care about it anymore may come sooner than expected.

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