Jess’s Team Pick
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Last Saturday night, as my lesbian posse and I were minding our own business debating whether to watch Troop Beverly Hills or The Little Mermaid (really Papi), I wondered aloud if Ursula was a big, flaming homo. My friend Shira leapt from the couch, ran into her room, threw this book at me and delightfully announced, “She’s a lesbian. Read this.”
“He can call me a flower if he wants to. I don’t mind.” Flower, Bambi
In Tinker Belles and Evil Queens, queer theorist Sean Griffin walks you through the evolution of the Disney company, tracing back to how the Disney name became culturally synonymous with “family values” in the 1930s and ’40s, gay symbolism dating all the way back to Mickey Mouse and demonstrates the development of a new, more adult, image and market under Michael Eisner in the 1980s and the start of “Gay Days” at the Magic Kingdom in 1990.
“What do you want me to do? Dress in drag and do the hula?” Timon, The Lion King
While high-profile gay talent has been contributing to Disney classics over the years, including Elton John, who wrote the music to The Lion King, and Howard Ashman, who won Oscars for his lyrics to Beauty and the Beast and The Little Mermaid, there has yet to be any gay characters in any of the animated films. Explicitly gay, that is. Just how I instinctively felt that Ursula was a lesbian (or at least drag queen inspired), turns out there are pages of hilarious conspiracy theories floating all around.
The Disney Pseudo-Gays:
+ Cruella De Vil, 101 Dalmations
Extravagant drag queen theatrics
+ Hugo, Hunchback of Notre Dame
“The city of lovers is glowing this evening. True, that’s because it’s on fire, but still there’s l’amour.”
+ Jafar, Aladdin
“Jafar, however, very much acts the role of a gay man’s gay villain, twisted by his desire for heterosexual power and his consequent self-enclosure in the closet. Advisor to the sultan, he is a Roy Cohn type with Leopold-and-Loeb overtones. He is counterpoised, moreover, to a healthier gay icon: the Genie, who, with Robin Williams’s voice, flames across the screen in a one-man cabaret show. “
+ Ursula, The Little Mermaid
“At first glance, Ursula seems a woman; on closer inspection, however, the Sea Witch resembles a flamboyant, Divine-ly inspired drag queen. Her octopus-like lower half further renders her gender ambiguous: the first view of her tentacles emerging from the darkness is played up for shock value…”
+ Scar, The Lion King
+ Jumba & Pleakley, Lilo and Stitch
“You’re just jealous cause I’m pretty!”
+ Cogsworth & Lumiere, Beauty & the Beast
“Well, there’s the usual things: Flowers, chocolates, promises you don’t intend to keep…”
What about rattigan?
Amazing. So either Scully turned me gay from the womb (parents loved The X Files), or Disney did it. Either way I win.
I love this subject, it’s one of my favorites to discuss.
Top queer Disney according to my friends and me – Lady & the Tramp (butch/femme ftw – the Tramp is even called Butch) and Mulan (Mulan spends most of the film crossdressing, and the male love interest falls in love with her as ‘Ping’, not knowing her true identity).
Plus the Evil Queen in Snow White has more than a bit of a thing for Snow White. Unhealthy mix-ups of jealousy and desire! Yay!
Yeah, how could they forget Mulan – where the HERO was a crossdresser?
IKR. Shang was so upset when he realized Mulan was a girl.
UM HELLO TIMON AND PUMBA
I HAD A MASSIVE CRUSH ON MULAN. Best disney movie ever.
Also: who the fuck read The Hunchback of Notre Dame and thought, I know, let’s make this into a children’s movie.
Who read the Hercules myth and thought that would make a good children’s movie? Or Hamlet, if we’re going on the theory that Lion King is “Hamlet with lions”
omgomgomgomgomg do not get my started on the heresy that is Disney’s Hercules. IT’S JUST SO FRICKIN’ WRONG!!!
Yeah, my friends get mad at me when we watch that movie because I basically yell at all the things that are different from the original myth. Even the stuff they didn’t HAVE to change (like, wtf is up with the Titans? Seriously?)
Still, I kind of want to forgive it for giving us this song (among others): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_bEWXs_FX4
Although I guess they couldn’t include the part about what Cronus did to Uranus, so maybe changing the Titans up was justified?
Yeah, they really shagged the dog on that one. But James Woods as Hades was pretty inspired, and more than a little campy. Totally a homo.
Supposedly the Hamlet elements were added in later during pre-production to give the plot more punch. And they got rid of the really squick-y parts…there’s no implied mom-cest.
Yeah you’re right, Lion King is more like Hamlet + happy ending – weird Oedipal shit, also lions.
Cogsworth & Lumiere (beauty and the beast) were SO a couple, even as a child I remember being weirded out to see Lumiere with his girlfriend.
Ditto. I remember thinking she was so random and unnecessary.
She was clearly a beard.
MUST read this! Just added it to my Amazon wish list. Thanks, Jess!
Timon and Pumba- At one point Timon even dresses in drag to distract the hyenas.
“what do you want me to do, dress in drag and do the hula?!”
Best line of the movie!
I’ve been witness to a pretty convincing debate on the queer nature of the relationship between Timon and Pumbaa. Considering they make up a pair of same-sex individuals that have been ostracized by their families and who live, eat, and sleep together in their own little paradise so the rest of the world can’t judge them, it’s a pretty compelling argument. Not to mention that they essentially function as Simba’s adoptive parents.
I can’t watch the Lion King anymore without being struck by how freaking queer those two are.
I feel like Timon’s eye-rolly reaction to Simon and Nala’s over-the-top heterosexuality is also really telling: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aF4CWCXirZ8
Queers can get so uppity when it comes to heterosexuality
Especially when they’re all rolling around, frolicking and singing about how well their genitals can feel the love tonight. It’s like, “Alright, dammit we GET IT.”
*Simba, not Simon.
Just a thought but Timon and Pumba = Cam and Mitchell from modern family. Does anyone see this?
OH MY GOD. DID YOU THAT SOUND?
(sound of my mind getting blown)
Pumba is so fat fierce and so is Cam. Oh and for goodness sakes, FIZBO? Come on.
What about Le Fou in Beauty & The Beast? His hero worship of Gaston (and that idolizing song) was kinda gay.
I like the bit when Gaston rips open his shirt and sings
“…and every last bit of me is cover with hair!”
‘You can ask any Tom, Dick or Stanley
And they’ll tell you whose team they prefer to be on ‘
OH, ditto on Ursula. Only a few years ago did I watch The Little Mermaid again and realized the sense of deja vu I had watching her sing Poor Unfortunate Souls was because it reminded me of a drag show! I do think this is a fun subject to discuss, but we should be careful not to take this too far from the theoretically funny to the serious side. I remember the uproar about Spongebob and the Teletubbies supposedly being some sort of evil gay corruption of our children. Those characters don’t even have genitalia, not to mention sponges are asexual. And, of course it goes without saying, “So what if they ARE gay?”
i miss tinkerbell the dog
I really enjoyed the Jump Cut article – thanks for sharing. Film nerds 4 life!
I think in Beauty and the Beast, Lumière the candlestick was atleast ambiguously bi. And he the fact that he was a candlestick that produced these little flames, they could have been saying he was a flamer.
Mulan has long been idolized in the trans guy community online. Particularly this song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5A_Rl8aQxII
Look at me
I will never pass for a perfect bride
Or a perfect daughter
Can it be
I’m not meant to play this part?
Now I see
That if I were truly to be myself
I would break my fam’ly’s heart
Who is that girl I see
Back at me?
Why is my reflection someone
I don’t know?
Somehow I cannot hide
Who I am
Though I’ve tried
When will my reflection show
Who I am inside?
When will my reflection show
Who I am inside?
You are so right
FYI the amazon link isn’t working
Mulan is a total boi.
Disney helped me develop a strong sense of queerdar, hidden beneath my mickey mouse ears. There’s at least one LGTBQ character in every movie, my favorites being Pocahontas’s gf Nacoma (she was way too jealous of John Smith) and the
threesoming good fairies in Sleeping Beauty- Flora, Fauna and Merriweather.
Sigh, but I’m still waiting on a loud and proud character to come out on the silver screen. That way I can get over my life-long crush on Belle.
“No, it can’t be; I’ll just ignore… But then, she’s never looked at me that way before.”
dude i had SUCH a mad crush on nacoma, although at the time i didn’t fully understand what those funny feelings were.
she’s wayyyy hotter than pocahontas, damn.
here ya go!
Oh man I really want to read that book! We’ll just hope I get Amazon giftcards for my birthday. Queer media analysis ahoy! :P
i always thought Scar was super obviously gay. No female mate, hangs out with the hyenas, who have an ambiguous gender, juxtaposed with the super masculine Mufasa.
Ha! Too funny, I am actually going to be Ursula this year for Halloween. Big flaming dyke, indeed!
Dressing up as Ursula is the best. I was her last Christmas party. Tip from the pro: pantyhose filled with newspapers make great tentacles.
And as for gay characters from Lady and the Tramp, how about those damn Siamese cats?
HA yes totally I forgot about those guy
Where are the lesbians then?
Does anyone know “The Emperor’s New Groove”? This is the gayest Disney movie I’ve ever watched. The prince is a total diva, like the faggiest fairy-boy under the sun! I love this movie so much :)
That’s my favorite Disney movie of all time, hands down! Also, hello, did you see Kronk? He took dance lessons, he complains about his figure, he is a great cook/dinner host AND he is the apparent boytoy of an old rich lady?! Seriously, in the version in my head, he and the emporer totally fall in love in the end :).
YESSSS. I need to get this book ASAP.
As for an out and proud queer character being in a Disney movie, a Disney animator said that “once they [Disney chiefs] find the right kind of story with that kind of concept, they will do it.” I don’t even know what that means (although it kind of reeks of “We’re waiting until people are more okay with queer people”), but still! There’s hope!
I don’t think I ever would have noticed it (since I clearly never did)… but Ursula totally DOES look like Divine. That’s amazing.
Ursula was in fact based on Divine- apparently the animators were having a lot of trouble coming up with a concept for their villain, and as a joke one artist sketched a picture of Divine, added tentacles, and asked, “Why don’t we just go with this?” And thus, Ursula was born!
Also, I absolutely love this article, and I have to find this book! I’m a huge animation nerd, as well as a pop culture theory/ queer theory nerd, so this is right up my alley. Thanks!
So many of the suggestively-gay characters are villains, which just makes me think of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lS4c05WPyRY
Seriously, all I want from life is a lesbian princess movie. Please, Disney?
Mulan is pretty close.
I agree. As a little homo child, I sensed somewhere deep down that it was lame all these movies ended with the girl being swept off her feet by some dude. As if being with a guy somehow made their story complete. I mean, I disagree with that as a human being — I don’t think it’s healthy for little girls or healthy for the view of women in society — but also maybe it was my inner gayness.
I never saw Mulan, but I thought Pocahontas was a bit bad-ass. Belle from Beauty & The Beast was cool because she was so individual and all the townspeople thought she was a weirdo. An animated Disney musical with a lesbian lead would be amazing, but I don’t think I’ll see it in my lifetime!
Yeah, I agree that it’s not a good message for girls of any sexual orientation. Love and romance are nice bonuses but not essential for happiness, and it doesn’t make you less of a person that you haven’t found Prince or Princess Charming yet.
My mother used to always tell my brother and I exactly why that was so unrealistic when we watched Disney movies as kids. At the time I rolled my eyes, but now I appreciate it!
well, a dream is a wish your heart makes, so close your eyes and she’ll come strolling down the animated red(orange-yellow-green-blue-violet)carpet soon. Disney promised to make our dreams come true! Our lesbian princess is totally inevitable.
That reminds me of The Celluloid Closet, a documentary anyone who is interested in the representation of queers in movies should totally watch. (I think they even specifically mention Peter Lorre in there.)
oh yeah that’s a good one!
when I was the president of my college’s LGBT group on campus I made everyone watch that movie once per semester as a rule, haha. Love it!
flower has always been one of my favourite characters.
and guys, what about pooh and piglet? and actually… everyone in the hundred acre wood. christopher robin inclu.
Tangentially related because it’s animated & meant for children…Spinelli from the show “Recess” anyone? I had a crush on her for real. In retrospect I’m convinced she’s gay.
Loved “recess” growing up. Completely agree with you Spinelli is totally gay
Spinelli=Buttercup from Powerpuff Girls= gay
Dexter= gay nerd
Angelica from rugrats=power dyke
Also that creepy devil character…http://powerpuff.wikia.com/wiki/HIM….GAYYYY
Folks, let’s talk about Alice in Wonderland, where most characters in Wonderland are androgynous, gender-bending, or some flavor of queer. Mad-hatter, March Hare, Doormouse, Caterpillar, Cheshire Cat, Tweedlede and Tweedledum, deep-voiced aggressive flowers, the Queen of Hearts, for goodness sakes. The plot line is basically dropping a straight femme into a queer alternate reality.
Also, Peter Pan is traditionally played by a female actress in the stage version, so with a little imagination the Disney film fulfills all my boi fantasies.
Also, I agree that the Hundred Acre Woods is a pretty gay forest. I remember asking my mother with serious concern whether Rabbit was a boy or a girl and having my mind blown when my mom answered that she didn’t know and it didn’t really matter anyway. Go Mom!
I constantly try to convince friends of the queerness of Bambi. I remember being so surprised when they came out of hibernation both Flower and Thumper had were boys (even though they state early on that Thumper is a boy…).
Has anyone seen Tarzan? I remember thinking Tantor was female and Terk was male and, again, being surprise when they grew up to be the opposite. And then I decided Terk was gay. But the whole thing was still full of genderfuck animals.
Terk is pretty gay lol Alternative lifestyle haircut, come on!
Can Genderfuck Animals be the name of a band? Right now please?
Maleficent: Mistress of all Evil. Please? :)
TROOP BEVERLY HILLS! “Patches? We don’t need no stinking patches.”
I can see where you’re going on some of them. But Scar from Lion King? How?
That Aladdin parody made me realize I need to watch that movie again sometime.
Hey, side note: Remember the boner in Little Mermaid and the word “sex” in Lion King? That shit was weird. Cartoonists have the maturity of 12-year-olds, apparently.
Scar never mated, and he was pretty effeminate in his movements. Plus, I remember him checking out his claws (both femme/butch ways) often. Of this list, only Scar and Jafar clicked for me; I’m clueless to the other gay clues.
I am so glad you mentioned that quotation from Troop Beverly Hills. I thought that I was the only person in the world to love this movie with all my heart. You and Jess have awesome taste!
“Annie Herman! Boi-oi-oing!!!”
I love that movie! Never fails to make me laugh.
Hahahahaha. Oh, Numbers. You quoted that perfectly. That is my other favorite quote from the movie.
BEVERLY HILLS! WHAT A THRILL!
Sadly the “sex” was “SFX”, and the boner was totally the dude’s knee.
Now, tits in The Rescuers, that actually happened.
/3 credits of film appreciation a decade ago
I’m just gonna point out that Cruella deVil was based off of Tallulah Bankhead, who was notorious/famous/infamously bisexual. A list of her liasons, as quoted in the wikipedia article for her:
“Rumors about her sex life have lingered for years, and she was linked romantically with many notable female personalities of the day, including Greta Garbo, Joan Crawford, Marlene Dietrich, Eva Le Gallienne, Laurette Taylor, Katharine Cornell and Alla Nazimova, as well as writer Mercedes de Acosta, the wealthy Betty Carstairs, and singer Billie Holiday.”
So basically if you were anyone who was anyone, you slept with the marvellous Tallulah.
I’ve always read Cruella as an extreme High Femme. It’s the car, combined with that ‘performed’ femininity (the fur, cigarillo holder, heels, ect).
And yeah, Disney’s really fond of sneaking the ghei into their movies. Timon and Pumba, Scar, Jafar, the Genie, Lumiere…. Rattigan. My god, Rattigan.
How about the Fox and the Hound? Todd and Copper were definitely more than just friends.
URSULA! i have an octopus ring in her honor, i think she was into (octo)pussy
it’s worrisome that the allegedly queer characters are mostly evil, no? :/
They’re also way more interesting than any of the romantic male leads, so there’s that.
Pinocchio. PLEASURE ISLAND? Little boys? Please.
Prince John from Robin Hood I feel sort of personifies old stereotypes of gay males as cowardly divas. Plus, his advisor Sir Hiss slept in the same room as he did!
Governor Radcliffe from Pocahontas. Seriously, in the song Mine Mine Mine, the guy imagines being dressed in court in a sparkly gold outfit. A little Elton John-esque if you ask me. Also, his right hand man Wiggins? Totally his bitch.
Speaking of Pocahontas, Thomas was just a little too clingy with John Smith, amirite? At the end of the film, he told Pocahontas that John Smith would die from his gunshot wound if he stayed (with her) in Virginia. Yet he’s got a better chance on a scurvy-ridden ship, sailing back to dirty England for several months? Sounds to me as though Thomas just wanted to get John away from his lady love!
Dr. Facilier from Princess and the Frog. He and Lawrence have about as much sexual tension as Tiana and Naveen! Plus, he was the only male villain featured on the packaging of MAC’s Disney villains line (the others being Maleficent, the Queen from Snow White, and Cruella de Vil).
Over the last 20 or so years, Disney heroes (and a few villains) have also been embodying these sort of Robert Mapplethorpe-esque images of hypermasculinity. Gaston, the Beast’s human form, John Smith, Kocoum, Hercules, Tarzan…and if you really need it driven home, take a look at David Kawena’s Disney Hero fanart:
It’s especially weird when you look at the clip and how they juxtapose glittering Radcliffe with John Smith being uber-macho:
Omigod!! Little John!! I can’t believe everyone forgot about him! Totally right with your list. I have to rewatch all the Disney movies now lol
And by “Little” I mean “Prince” John.
I always thought Prince Eric(a) was a hot butch top in the little mermaid, tsk tsk I never had a chance.
Ariel! Totally trans. Just look at that look: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahN43Rx3oWU&t=2m4s
Sebastian and Flounder from “The Little Mermaid”. That whole movie is filled with homogay and sexual innuendos:
Down where it’s wetter
And aside from the fact that Belle is only with a guy because she hasn’t met me yet, her dad is pretty gay.
I read a review on Up in which the author interpreted Kevin the rainbow-coloured bird as a butch lesbian. The idea was that this was a creature that was presumed to be male (Russel bestows the male name “Kevin” upon her), but is actually a mom. The villain of the film wants to capture and exploit her otherness (wasn’t she deemed a “monster”?) rather than allow her to live peacefully with her babies in the jungle, away from society’s prying eyes.
Scar is not gay, he’s English. Fucking Americans.
Saying he’s English doesn’t make him ungay… And why is this an American-attack? There are PLENTY of non-American Disney male characters that aren’t questionably queer, and there are many non-Americans that think Scar is gay.
European = gay
Stephen Colbert: By the way, what is the difference between being English and being gay?
Aaron Hicklin: It’s exactly the same thing.
mulan made me gay. that was legit my favorite movie ever when i was a kid i replayed it over and over til it broke and refused to watch the sequel.
also the i’ll make a man out of you song, i always sing the “raging fire” part as “raging boner”
My partner has been wanting to create a comic of a lesbian version of Aladdin. I was puzzled when she first told me this, but then she pointed out to me that if Aladdin’s part in the song “A Whole New World” were to be replaced by a female voice, the song would suddenly be telling the story of Princess Jasmine understanding for the first time that she can become romantically and sexually involved with another woman (and LOVING it). And then I happened upon this version of the song (which I have loved listening to ever since): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LDp_Kpj7rM Oh, and there’s also a so-called “reggae disco rocker’s remix” of the same song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZ4etxpQgI8&feature=related
Delayed reply, but one of my friends and I totally did this for the talent show in elementary school. I was Aladdin. I just liked singing the boy’s part because it was more interesting than the melody. #lookingbackishouldhaveknown
i am so sure that this is a gay couple, i mean if you have seen lilo and stitch you would know pleakely and jumba are 100 percent gay. well at least pleakely. first of all his first name is Wendy, cries when he has to wear boy clothes, and buys flowers for jumba. my case is solved. disney has openly gay characters.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEwVhSkB5sc this their wedding <3
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