This month in GQ, Kreayshawn came out as bisexual. Or something like that. The Oakland whitegirl rapper who, as a teenager, drew her name from the need to create (creation = kre-ay-shawn), first caught our attention over the summer when the video for her first single “Gucci Gucci” threw our gaydars into overdrive with her single feather earring-wearing, thick-framed glasses-sporting, denim-vest dawning swag, which, apparently was “pumping out her ovaries.”
Kreayshawn surrounds herself with a diverse crew, among them her childhood neighbor, her Filipina personal assistant and Lady Tragik, her lesbian wingman who graced GQ with such pearls of wisdom as “I’m gay and I love Jesus Christ!” and “Poop thug life!” Kreayshawn, more or less, is to be handled with the same amount of seriousness as the emotion of angst: easy to indulge in if you’re an adolescent, and after that, only appropriate to revisit only with a touch of irony. But in a lot of ways, you can’t be mad. Kreayshawn is like a lot of 22-year-olds I know. She has fun, she has no filter, she smokes blunts and she does a fair amount of shit-talking.
Snoop Dogg loves her, Azealia Banks hates her. The former has appeared on The L Word, the latter Banks recently came out as bisexual. Neither of these adds or detracts from the legitimacy of her sexuality, but her coming out in GQ is telling. The GQ writer says “Kreay told me she is bisexual, but not that bisexual.” Kreay herself says, “I’m like, a person who likes love. And I can find love in any type of person. I’ve dated girls, and I’ve liked girls. But they’re usually straight girls, so it never works out. I’m not that gay, so I don’t have the energy to convince someone else to be gay, you know?”
The mention of her sexuality in GQ is strictly parenthetical, and maybe that’s because her persona is surrounded by so much peripheral weirdness that her sexuality is just sort of an aside. Her coming out may be labeled as bisexual, but the implications of “I can find love in any sort of person” hint at something more.
Kreayshawn’s coming out — her Kreaysexuality, if you will — seems to point to a larger trend in the sexual fluidity among female rappers (but you should read Brittani’s article on “bisexuality in hip-hop” for a more thorough breakdown of how exactly this seems to play out in that context.) I promised myself never to compare any of these women, and even at this point, it’s still hard to say: Nicki Minaj announced her bisexuality and then renounced it. Azealia Banks came out as bisexual in the New York Times, but wrote it off as irrelevant to her musical persona. Kreayshawn came out as something other than hetereosexual — in a men’s magazine no less. But female rappers have been asserting their sexuality since…well, since female rap has existed. For women in hip-hop it is absolutely imperative to assert control over sexuality before someone else co-opts it for you.
From “My Neck, My Back,” to Lil’ Kim bragging about making a Sprite can disappear in her mouth, women in rap have been responsible for owning and defining their sexuality, which is now more queer than it used to be. It’s not your mom’s sexuality, it’s not yesterday’s feminist’s sexuality, it’s our sexuality, and it refuses to be defined.
How seriously are we going to take Kreayshawn’s sexuality? Probably as seriously as we take Kreayshawn. It probably won’t play into any sort of esoteric discourse about the intricacies of female sexuality. It probably won’t make it into any great academic papers of our time. This of course has nothing to do with a hierarchy of various sexual orientations — whether she identified as label-free, bisexual, queer, lesbian, pansexual or anything other than straight; she would still be Kreayshawn. But it is a segue into a discussion about female sexuality, and it is a conversation that we’re always having. Are we invalidating sexuality that’s unsure of itself or that refuses to define itself or addresses itself casually? It’s something we need to think about.
When we analyze the stated sexual orientation of public figures in their teens and early 20s, we’re not always entirely fair — she’s 22, after all, and not having it figured out yet is pretty normal at that age. She doesn’t represent anyone besides herself, ultimately.
Kreayshawn came out as bisexual or something, and we’ll probably forget about it by the time 4/20 rolls around. And maybe what we have with Kreayshawn’s coming out is just another fish in our lesbian sea. Her video for “Online Fantasy” features Kreay surfing an online dating site, which somehow results in a woman clad in lingerie emerging from the screen and immediately making out with her. This is a better outcome than any OKCupid date than I can ever imagine. And while I’m tempted to light a candle and blast “Online Fantasy” in a sapphic tribute to who is apparently the newest member of our family, I probably wouldn’t be able to hear it over the sound of a thousand lesbians sending tweets her way.
thank you for this
Can we like have a code word for when we talk about bisexuality so that the flamers don’t know what we’re talking about but the loyal community here does and it’s won’t, you know, draw out the ignorant asshats?
Maybe we can use bicorn or bilingual* or something.
How long have you had this in your back pocket? That must feel good! ;-)
As a femme that is into other femmes no less, I actually found this quote hilarious
“I’m not that gay, so I don’t have the energy to convince someone else to be gay, you know?”
Esp in relation to her dating “straight girls” so it never seems to “work out.”
lol. I actually think that’s kind of big of her don’t ya think? As opposed to saying she could make a girl “gay,” which would be kinda offensive.
I was actually not really upset by her statement. I read the headline and thought it was going to be one of those standard celebrity bisexual things, where you just smile and nod. But this was a lot more self-aware. It’s not exactly poetry, but it’s not making me roll my eyes.
Crap, that did come off as kind of bi-phobic, now that I re-read that. But the phrase, “not that bisexual,” sounded somehow. . . off I guess. It sounded like an assurance that she was nonthreatening.
She’s a flippant early twentysomething, and not advertising anything more. That’s about it.
Let the battle commence!
I’m surprised no one is angry yet. I haven’t read the rest of the comments though. SOMEONE must be angry, here, come on.
What do you mean by “something more” than bisexual? Bisexuals aren’t limited to just two genders, after all. The definition is “those with attractions to people with the same gender presentation as themselves and people with different gender presentations than themselves.” Attempting to erase Kreayshawn’s self-identification by hinting she’s a closeted pansexual doesn’t help either bisexuality or pansexuality. Nor does it enhance your credit as a writer on GSM issues.
I took “something more” to mean that although Kreayshawn might say, “I’m bisexual, but not that bisexual.” The fact that she goes on to say that she can find love with any sort of person seems to hint to the fact that she really is THAT bisexual. Having a relationship and falling in love with a girl are a little different than Katy Perry enjoying sharing cherry chapstick.
i took it to mean that there might be “more” to her story w/r/t “length of the story” — that “more” was quantitative, not qualitative.
“I took “something more” to mean that although Kreayshawn might say, “I’m bisexual, but not that bisexual.” The fact that she goes on to say that she can find love with any sort of person seems to hint to the fact that she really is THAT bisexual.”
i took this to mean that she has absolutely no idea what she’s talking about and should be treated as such.
also, she’s 22. a lot of people are bisexual at 22. and then they’re not.
Wait, it’s *gender* *presentation* that matters? Crap, I think I’m heterosexual.
Actually, the definition of bisexual is whatever an individual identifying as bisexual defines it as for themself. There is no universal definition, and some bisexual people do not consider themselves attracted to non-binary people.
I also agree with PF Monkey that it is messed up that you define sexuality as based around gender presentation rather than gender identity.
” I’m not that gay, so I don’t have the energy to convince someone else to be gay, you know?””
lolololol no, i don’t know. i’m confused. is she saying she’s not that gay because she’s like a type 5 bisexual or just that’s she not that bisexual, and therefore she’s bicurious? woah hilarious and confusing. whatever….what was the context of that interview?
she is laughable. her sexuality is laughable. irrelevant and insignificant.
i wish i could muster up more annoyance or anger, but she’s a joke.
this is my contribution to the flame war.
In other words, she’s just your average bisexual. I’m sure she’ll fit right in, at least, until it’s expedient for her to go back on this (or she does an interview with someone other than a Men’s Magazine).
I am bisexual, and I have yet to do an interview with a men’s magazine on the subject. But it sounds like an interesting idea. Would they pay me? Where do I sign up? My rent is due this week.
Probably. Everyone knows that sort thing is acceptable (notice how many bisexuals talk about it in men’s magazines, Megan Fox, et al?). I would think real bisexuals would be annoyed at these sorts of PR stunts, since that’s probably what it is.
Someday I’m going to find you and make out with you, then inform you that you just had your tongue all up in my bisexual mouth.
Becca – I’ll pass. I don’t date bisexuals or straights. And I’d prefer to remain STD-free.
GOLD STAR FOR YOU, MISS ANON. YOU GO, MISS ANON.
This comment has been removed citing our Comment Policy, re: hate speech, ignorance AND PUDDING
because toothbrushes/condoms do not exist now. we live in a post-apocalyptic wasteland where all the Walgreens have been leveled to the ground. that’s terrible news, I needed ibuprofin
Hate speech? I simply pointed out something bisexuals do; I mean bisexuals have sex with men, don’t you? To declare that to be hate speech seems, I don’t know, biphobic. How hateful. For shame!
you’d be so much more interesting if you’d educate yourself http://www.autostraddle.com/safe-sex-for-lesbians-45382/
I wish I had seen this comment before it was pulled. But I probably would have laughed out loud in class, thus ruining my studious facade. So, thanks, moderators. Seriously though…email it to me. I can take it.
No seriously. If someone saw it before it was deleted…message it to me or something? My curiosity is again insatiable. I’ll send you pudding.
I wanna know too! How can something against the comment policy also be about pudding?
The fact that this ends in ” AND PUDDING” is totally making my night.
Also, Becca…if your bisexual mouth needs help easing the sting of Miss Anon’s cold rejection…I’m here for you.
I call second in line. I am so ready for a chlamydia-filled kiss it isn’t even funny.
Well, I don’t date ignorants or biphobes, so I guess we’re even.
Basically, I equate all “bisexual girls are faking it for attention” arguments to the “Obama is faking being a Christian American so that he can impose his Socialist/Muslim/freedom-hating views on us” arguments. Both are illogical, ignorant, hateful, and have been disproven time and time again.
The people who make these arguments are really doing me a favor, basically. It’s like a big flashing neon sign that says “I DON’T LIKE LOGIC”. And then I don’t have to bother trying to reason with them.
“Both are illogical, ignorant, hateful, and have been disproven time and time again.”
In the face of:
“Nicki Minaj announced her bisexuality and then renounced it.”
Yeah, people are gonna be skeptical. I’d be inclined to believe one if she ever actually came out with a girlfriend. So, if these bisexuals are so real, how come we never see that? How come, instead, they are all with men?
Because they are allowed to date men, as per their sexuality. Seriously, I don’t get it, why are bisexuals only accepted as bisexuals if they date women? Isn’t the whole point of bisexuality to have the attraction and romantic capability of being with EITHER gender?
If you would crack open your mind instead of jumping on the hatewagon every time this subject comes up, you would perhaps notice that there are plenty of us (bisexuals, pansexuals, label-free, etc. etc.) here on this very blog who do in fact HAVE GIRLFRIENDS. WIVES, even. But of course, that doesn’t fit in with your narrow view of things, so you choose to ignore it.
Furthermore, assuming you can understand basic statistical probability, you should be able to figure out for yourself why a lot of bisexual women might happen to end up with men.
It must get terribly claustrophobic in such a small mind
Babygirl, using Nicki Minaj as an example for ANYTHING…I mean, she’s a walking cartoon. I don’t take her as an example of the average bisexual any more than I believe her hair to be actually pink, her eyes to actually be open that creepily wide all the time, and her outfits to be chosen in anything other than a pitch-black closet/wind tunnel.
“We” (I’m assuming you’re using the royal here, so I’ll follow suit) see bisexuals all the time. We are friends with bisexuals. We drink coffee with bisexuals. We have lovingly stared at bisexuals’ asses. We ogle other girls with bisexuals, and nod in vague understanding at boys with bisexuals. We have even had bisexuals in our very own apartment.
Perhaps the royal “You” should look to real life instead of the media for actual bisexuals,
Fuck off, you cunt. Go troll and spew your hate somewhere else.
That’s directed at “Miss Anon” by the way, not any of you.
Could we not call each other c*nts? I’m not trying to be your granny, I happen to enjoy using that word in the right context, but not only is it timber for a flame war, but also frustrating to see that word (which at face-value implies that being a vadge is a gross, nasty thing to be) being used here when we could just shake the haters off and build community with the leftover energy.
*sorry for the sanctimony. not gonna make a habit of it but really. I like that poster who always offers the free hugs to the sad little trolls–we can’t stoop to their level and humour can diffuse even the most hateful of comments.
I +1d quickly out of spite against all that hatred but yeah misogynistic slurs make me sad :(
Ya know, the energy you are using to hurt and hate others, you could be using it to help others. =)
Shit son. Do you ever get tired, Miss Anon, from hating so much?
We are all people (even us bisexuals who you appear to look so far down upon) who just want to look ourselves in the mirror each day and know we’re not lying, to ourselves or anyone else. Who just want to find peace within ourselves. Can you maybe try to take a breath before commenting, look around, and attempt to see that life’s more complicated than the crap that is spurned in the media.
And can you maybe try considering what consequences your comments might have. Some of us are tired of fighting against hate from all sides, even if you’re not tired of hating.
Peace yo. And love to all the fighters out there :)
OH MY GOD YOU GUYS Miss Anon is TROLLING YOU SO HARD AND YOU’RE TAKING IT.
Beez, can we get married? Your comments are all kinds of irresistible. Seriously, I will pay you a dowry of girl scout cookies.
Wow..Girl Scout cookies totally beats the dairy goat, 2 chickens, patchouli soap and hemp necklace I was going to offer..Go for it Beez! I’ll understand..
I suggest we start a commune somewhere, so that we have goat milk to drink with our girl scout cookies.
That’s a great idea..Because we’d probably just smoke the hemp necklace and then we’d reeeeeeeeeally want the Girl Scout cookies and goats milk!
Woah wait. All I need is more energy and I can *convince* straight girls to be “that bisexual?” I missed that memo! Maybe I should start drinking Monster…
It’s like, why wake up extra early to make it to the 7:00 am tennis practice when you’re already on the badminton team?
No, but seriously, she’s not the most eloquent of speakers (obviously) but I think she was trying the whole woe-is-me-i’m-so-unlucky-in-love type of thing.
To be honest… that usually it all it takes with straight girls.
I don’t really know much about her, and everything I do know makes her sound kind of annoying, but I am officially not offended by what she’s said about her sexuality and am so excited to see people get really really angry about it.
Well that’s cool, Kreay-Kreay. I’m a lesbian, but not that lesbian. We could totally get along ;)
Whats with the firehose?
“It’s not your mom’s sexuality, it’s not yesterday’s feminist’s sexuality, it’s our sexuality, and it refuses to be defined.”
Love this line. Eventually I think we could get to a place in society where anyone can fall in love with anyone else, without labeling it all.
Either the flame wars haven’t started yet, or this article did a really good job of forestalling them by carefully acknowledging how un-serious it all might be.
Katrina, as a NON-confused 22-year-old queer (who until quite recently was a VERY confused 19/20/21-year-old semi-queer), I have to agree with you on your comments about this wonderful time period in our lives. Several friends of mine are still searching for themselves and their sexuality.
Also, I think I might follow you on tumblr and you seem like a gigantic badass. So, props on your life. And a well-written article about us crazy bisexual kids.
“For women in hip-hop it is absolutely imperative to assert control over sexuality before someone else co-opts it for you.”
i love this
You know, as a bisexual, I feel like I should be mad about this, or even offended, but I’m not really. She just seems irrelevant and not even that interesting, personally.
Could you clarify how you determine what counts as hate speech? Because it seems to me that in some of the biphobic comments that are allowed to pass, if “bisexual” was replaced with “transgender” or “lesbian” or “black” or various other things, they would probably be deleted. It just in general seems like there is more anti-bisexual discourse that happens on this blog than any other kind of anti-whatever. That could be an inaccurate perception of things, but I just wanted to share my perspective.
I’m not an Editorstraddler, but here’s my take on it: I don’t think Autostraddle tends to attract the kind of people who hate directly on lesbians (although it does show up sometime) or trans* people or different races. Unfortunately, some lesbians/gays still think it’s acceptable to hate on bisexuals, which is really unfortunate because we should be welcoming everyone into our community. Sadly, bisexuals get hate from both sides.
Another thing is that there are just a couple of people that keep posting this crap. And you can tell it’s the same people. But I agree that there’s more anti-bisexual discourse, but it’s not because AS is removing other crap. There’s just not as much other crap.
Anyway yeah by now I’d have tried to block this jerk’s IP address, but I don’t even know if that’s doable…and it can be gotten around. Sigh.
BUT I LOVE ALL OF YOU
That makes sense about why there might be less other-kinds-of-hate. But then there are comments like this above:
“her sexuality is laughable.”
And in reply, “In other words, she’s just your average bisexual.”
Where if you replaced some of those words with other words, I don’t think they’d be allowed to stand.
I don’t really think it’s fair to say “if you replace those with some other words”. For one thing, it’s a completely different context, so you can’t just ‘replace’ the words. And for another, it’s implying that there is like, no tolerance for other forms of hate speech or hateful discourse out there today, when there definitely is. You can argue your case without being like ‘hey no fair the other group is oppressed less than us!’
I wasn’t at all implying that there is no tolerance for other forms of hate speech “out there”. I was talking about this website in particular. And it’s not a matter of simply replacing any old words – I’m talking about specific parallels within the scope of protecting minority groups from hate. It isn’t a different context, it’s the same context with different groups of people.
And for the record, I don’t actually identify as bisexual, so this isn’t about me feeling that “my” group is more oppressed than some other. I speak up all the time about things that I disagree with that don’t directly apply to me – for example, I’m currently butting heads with a ridiculous woman on FB who is making outrageous claims about trans people. So that is not my motivation for commenting here, and I don’t really think it’s fair of you to assume so when you don’t know me at all.
(although I do understand that you were trying to show a possible connection between the two… but I just really dislike that argumentation! :) )
(But I could be wrong.)
(And I should add that 99.9999% of the time I think the editors/moderators here do a fantastic job of doing their job.)
Honestly, I don’t understand why the moment people call out generalizations on bisexuality, people start to get in a hussy.
Let me caveat by stating that technically I have no label. I love who I love and since the age of 16 (now in my 30’s) it has been women. I will imagine it will always be, but hell I am open.
With saying that, if bisexuals are tired of getting generalized, then you should be just as irritated when flaky behavior, publicity stunts, and bisexual denouncing takes place. Since you threw out statistics, then you agree, the majority of women who claim they are bisexual, do so without ever being in a serious committed relationship with a woman. That is fact.
The majority of bisexual women who have had relationships with women, end up with men in the longterm. Fact. Yes, generalization, but that means THE MAJORITY.
Personally, I feel a large majority of that reasoning is due to social acceptance and options. If I had to choose from the lesbian or bisexual dating pool where I live right now, I’d turn to men pretty fast. Yeah, I would settle for the penis because most of them are crazy, dirty, and flaky. Ones around here in the bar scene are enough to make you question the mental health/sexuality tie. So for me, it’s straight girls, the unicorn lesbian/bisexual(sane woman who likes other women), or a dude I can hang with, enjoy sex with, and enjoy spending my time with if I had to on that level.
Hopefully in the coming years and with new generations, options and social acceptance will get better and I feel the flakiness among the bisexual culture will decrease because a) it won’t be shocking anymore (aka – no PR stunts) b)more women will understand their identity and attraction factors faster c) women will have more choices, better choices for committed relationships.
Until then, either be a better sane voice for the bisexual community, or accept that the majority are screwing it up for you and you should be as irritated as the “lesbians” are.
R. Kelly posting about ‘flaky bisexual culture’ on Autostraddle? Damn brother, you sure have changed since the days of ‘I Believe I Can Fly’.
As I said above, I don’t actually identify as bisexual. I have no label either, and I also happen to be more attracted to women than men. But let’s just say for the sake of argumentation that I did decide to identify as such. Are you saying that it would then be my responsibility to apologize for other people who abuse that label? And that because of those people, I don’t have the right to get upset when somebody wrongly assumes that their “flaky” behaviour applies to all bisexuals? And how exactly are you defining “flaky” behaviour? Because a lot of what often gets called “flaky” in bisexuals is either a) due to the same kind of questioning or figuring out their identity that lots of other people go through or b) totally normal behaviour for someone who happens to be attracted to either sex.
can I get some citations on all those facts? You say it with such certainty.
ok can we have a time out for real talk? as someone who strongly identified as bisexual for a long time because that’s truly honestly what i was — not ’cause it was a transition from here to there or a lie or anything, it was just a different phase of my life on this planet — comparing biphobia to racism is CRAZY TALK. I don’t see lesbians literally murdering bisexual women just because they’re bisexual, i see them giving bisexuals a hard time, refusing to date them, or making them feel erased. these are emotional things, mostly, lesbians aren’t actively working to rob bisexual women of their civil rights. we can all have strong, valid, full, subjective feelings about our lives and our hardships without overstating the severity of this or that oppressive situation. so yeah, we’re gonna treat that differently. because sometimes there is no metaphor, sometimes one thing is one thing and another thing is another and they’re not just words that can be swapped out. the good news is we all still matter and deserve a voice and understanding, we can all be important in our own ways, and be humble sometimes too. i mean, we could all do a better job of that. me too, i’m sure. so, yeah.
It’s your website so you are obviously free to make that call. But I don’t think that just because people aren’t getting murdered means that they are less entitled to an emotionally safe space.
The reason I spoke up at all is actually because of a comment someone made on a different post about how they felt that this was the one place on the lesbian Internet where they didn’t have to apologize for being bisexual. And maybe that comment in itself should be enough to support your position. However, my first thought when I read it was that I really wished I could enthusiastically agree – I wish this could be a place that bisexual people come to and don’t have to wince and brace themselves when they see a post on bisexuality because they know what’s coming in the comments section, and where you don’t have to pull out a graphic of a fireman in the first post, because people know not to bother making ignorant comments as their comments will be deleted. But maybe I’m wrong and bisexual people don’t feel that way when they see such threads, I don’t actually know. As I said, I don’t identify with the label myself and even if I did I couldn’t speak for everyone who does.
you say that you don’t identify with bisexual at all so you don’t know. well! i did. very publicly, in fact, i was writing a whole book about it and felt that was who I was even though I don’t feel that way anymore. and comments that made sweeping generalizations about bisexual people didn’t make me feel “unsafe” or anything. that negativity exists out there, and confronting it is part of everybody’s journey of self-discovery and it’s part of life and unpacking those stereotypes — which doesn’t always mean proving they’re baseless, it means being reasonable and measured in our confrontations — is important, too. i’d be insulted, honestly, if somebody thought i couldn’t emotionally handle a negative comment about bisexuals marrying men or something. and perhaps part of that is because the consequences are so different — when the possibility of a person getting beat up or having my rights taken away is tied to a certain kind of speech, it carries a different weight. when someone uses a slur that has been used to justify lynching other human beings, that carries a different weight. but honestly we leave up a lot of sweeping generalizations about gay people too, it usually takes a lot for us to delete anything. context is so important. also, i personally don’t make all those calls, i don’t even know what was in the deleted comment on this post. i’m just saying.
As someone who has identified as bisexual (but no longer does because life is like that), despite the flamewars here regarding bisexuality, Autostraddle IS a wonderful haven for bisexual women. You know why? Because for every 1 hater, we have 15 posters rising up and calling out that person’s biphobia. I don’t even bother with other queer women sites because the few times I have, the ratios have been more equal, or swung in the completely different direction. So, yes, I think it’s absolutely fair and appropriate to say that this is the one site where I’ve never had to apologize for being a queer woman dating a man.
I agree with you that equating biphobia with other flavours of bigotry isn’t helpful or accurate. I didn’t think that was what was really what was happening here, though? I read the comments as being more geared toward saying that if it’s inappropriate to post sweeping generalisations about people of colour or trans* people, then it’s also inappropriate to post sweeping generalisations about bisexuals. Not because biphobia is the same as or comparable to racism or cissexism, but rather because it’s inappropriate to make sweeping generalisations about social identity groups. And if we have that awareness about race and gender, then we should also have it in relation to other identity characteristics, like religion or sexuality or whatever.
This isn’t a comment about when things should and shouldn’t be deleted, though. I’m pretty happy with things as they currently are.
Yes, this is what I was trying to get at. Honestly, I’d have made the same comments if I felt that there was an excess of comments here hating on overweight people, or blond people, or old people, or straight people, or whatever. It’s not about comparing how much worse one group has it than another. It’s about this place being safe and inclusive for everyone.
But I agree that there’s more anti-bisexual discourse, but it’s not because AS is removing other crap. There’s just not as much other crap.
yeah, exactly. we almost never delete comments, seriously
…That’s really all I was asking. If you’ve (plural) decided that it’s best to leave most comments on any subject from trolls, etc. up so that people can rebut them or ignore them or whatever, I may personally not agree that that’s always the best approach, but I certainly respect that it’s your decision to make and I can live with it.
And none of this diminishes the fact that I seriously think this is the best place on the Internet ever.
Hee, bad time to admit I don’t really know who this person is? *out of touch*
Ah well, good for her. Or something. ^_^
I have no idea either. Maybe she’d be more interesting if I were 15? And confused? Or something?
I would just like to point out how well written and well researched this article is, kudos to you Katrina.
Listen, I didn’t pin down my sexuality til 24. Girl’s got time to figure out it. I would also totally make out with her to help her figure it out.
Would you play her the Autoharp? ;)
I’d jam it out with her all night.
Ah, so you would play HER Autoharp as well?
Oh gosh, no. Two autoharps at once? Way too hard to keep in tune. I’d let her hit my bongos, though.
I’m bisexual and I too thought nothing offensive by it. I thought it meant that while I like girls, I don’t like them enough to try and “turn” a girl gay or bisexual. Therefore she is not “THAT” bisexual just a regular dose lol.
I am bisexual and as long as we keep defending Kreayshawn and others who play up this Katy Perry style bisexuality (yeah I made out with women but I need penis mentality), we harm ourselves when it comes to getting respect. One of two things is happening here. Either Kreayshawn is saying she is bisexual for publicity or Kreayshawn is down or Kreayshawn is trying to downplay her attraction to women (emphasizing that it is about men when it comes down to it).
Persons like this who exploit bisexuality for attention make a mockery of bisexuality. The only thing worse is the many bisexual women who choose men over women they actually love more solely because it makes for an easier life in their eyes.
Enough with defending bisexuals that give the rest of us a bad reputation.
seriously. this blind support of anything bisexual is absurd. plus it’s making ya’ll look crazy. lately when i think of autostraddle, i think “crazy bisexuals”. don’t let these bisexual extremists ruin your good name! ha.
Paper0Flowers, let’s disengage from accusations of bisexual extremism, and get on with the business of being extremely bisexual ;)
Ah, bad reputations. As a bisexual, allow me to tell you what I think of them using the immortal words of Joan Jett:
“I don’t give a damn ’bout my reputation
You’re living in the past, it’s a new generation
A girl can do what she wants to do and that’s what I’m gonna do…
An’ I don’t give a damn ’bout my bad reputation
Oh no, not me, oh no, not me
I don’t give a damn ’bout my reputation
I’ve never been afraid of any deviation
An’ I don’t really care if you think I’m strange
I ain’t gonna change
An’ I’m never gonna care ’bout my bad reputation
Oh no, not me, oh no, not me”
Kreayshawn can call herself whatever she genuinely feels herself to be and if someone out there is stupid enough to form a negative opinion of all bisexuals based on it – well, frankly I don’t give a damn what that person thinks.
Yey, misogyny is not a place to go!
Or maybe she was telling the truth, and she is attracted to men and women, but there are a lot more straight men than queer women around, and maybe she tends to like men more than women. And maybe she has been involved with some women who identify as straight and found that to be complicated. That all sounds pretty normal!
There are women who feel sexual attraction to other women but don’t really want relationships with them. There are also women (like me) who feel sexual attraction to men but don’t really want relationships with them. And there is no reason anybody should have to apologize for, or denounce, either of those things.
Or she means she is bisexual, but toward the straighter end of the spectrum. Which is perfectly okay and valid.
It’s all been said.
I already forced myself to quit reading Jezebel. Now I have to muster up the self-control to stop myself from reading the comments on anything relating to bisexuality?
I don’t even know who Kreayshawn is.
Apparently, from what I’m reading here..Kreayshawn still isn’t sure who Kreayshawn is..
idk, am I the only one that interpreted “I’ve dated girls, and I’ve liked girls. But they’re usually straight girls, so it never works out. I’m not that gay, so I don’t have the energy to convince someone else to be gay, you know?” as a kind of sweetly sad statement from a slightly insecure about her same-sex sexual desirability lady who, as may young women of her generation are, is ambivalent about embracing a label+the tons of baggage that come along with it, but also doesn’t feel the need to hide any same-sex sexiness feelings/experiences?
I read it that way too.
I think the way we as a society talk about sexuality doesn’t provide some people with the words to clearly express how they experience and understand their sexuality. So I don’t take issue with someone describing herself in the way that she has, she sounds more like she’s fumbling for a way to describe who she is than anything else.
Totally. It sounds like the sort of thing I have heard a lot of friends say. I don’t get why it’s controversial.
I think you win at understanding this article.
I’m just gonna come out (lolgeddit??) and say it: I like Kreayshawn. She raises some touchy issues about white appropriation of black culture and, now, sexual fluidity, but she is so genuine with her irreverent “I-don’t-give-a-fuck” attitude that you have to give her some credit. As for all of these charming “why doesn’t she go suck a herpes-covered dick” comments, I don’t feel that any of us have the authority to categorize her sexuality. What’s wrong with saying she likes straight girls? What’s wrong with her statements being contradictory? As an almost-20-year-old who oscillates between self-identifying as “bi,” “gay,” and “queer,” I can sympathize with her indecision, and I don’t think being a steadfast lesbian since the age of 7 is more admirable than taking time to really figure out the nuances of one’s sexuality.
“I’m not that gay, so I don’t have the energy to convince someone else to be gay, you know?”
Know why I don’t get this statement? Because I’m pretty sure straight girls make me feel gay every day. :P
“But they’re usually straight girls, so it never works out. I’m not that gay, so I don’t have the energy to convince someone else to be gay, you know?”
Dammit!!!! You guys I knew I was doing something wrong by not pursuing those straight girls I’ve totally wanted to date!
Ok all joking aside, I actually do know who Kreayshawn is because of my dad, but I see nor feel nothing wrong with her statement. I did find the statement amusing to an extent though because I feel it is similar to something I would say in a joking manner…
This Kreayshawn character looks and sounds like a real twat.
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