New Thor Will be a Woman! Five Other Heroines Who Have Taken Up a Man’s Title

by rory midhani

by rory midhani

By now, plenty of you will probably have already heard this, but it bears repeating: starting this fall, Thor will be a woman. Marvel Comics announced on last Tuesday’s episode of the ABC daytime show The View that the person we’ve known as Thor will soon become unworthy of both that title and his famous hammer, and both will be passed on to an as-of-now unnamed woman. Seeing as the rise of the Marvel Cinematic Universe has made Thor one of Marvel’s Big Three heroes (along with Captain America and Iron Man), it’s pretty impressive that Marvel is making this move.

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Art by Esad Ribic

It’s cool that Marvel is taking one of its strongest and most powerful heroes and making her a woman. Often female superheroes have mind, magic or otherwise non-muscle-based powers. I also mostly really love this new design. Although I’m not a fan of the boob plate armor, and I wish that Marvel would have more women of color superheroes, I love how strong, imposing and absolutely God-of-Thunder-like she looks. I mean, check out those shoulders!

It’s nice to see that both Marvel and series writer Jason Aaron are being so adamant about her being Thor and not “She-Thor” or “Lady Thor.” Although there’s absolutely nothing wrong with feminizing a name, there is a lot of clout that comes with the name Thor. By not adding “She-,” “Lady” or “Ms.” to the name, they are saying that this character isn’t a sidekick or partner to Thor, they’re saying that she isn’t “inspired by” Thor, they’re saying she simply is Thor.

Predictably, there have been a lot of complaints from “fanboys” saying that this move is “political correctness run amok” or “feminism gone too far.” There are also plenty of people who insist on calling her “Lady Thor” or She-Thor” even though it has been explicitly said that she’s simply going to be called Thor. They just can’t stand using that big, tough, manly name to describe a girl. Oh well; they’re just going to have to get over it.

Art by Russell Dauterman

Art by Russell Dauterman

Marvel also announced that this was part of a conscious effort to appeal to female readers, which is the exact opposite of what comic book companies have a notorious history of doing. In their press release about the change, they said that “Thor is the latest in the ever-growing and long list of female-centric titles that continues to invite new readers into the Marvel Universe. THOR will be the 8th title to feature a lead female protagonist and aims to speak directly to an audience that long was not the target for super hero comic books in America: women and girls.” Marvel’s other female-led titles are Captain MarvelMs. MarvelShe-HulkBlack WidowElektra, the all-female X-Men and the new Storm series that’s debuting this week.

It’s pretty common for a younger man to take up the mantle of an older male superhero, a younger woman to take up the mantle of a female hero, or even for a younger woman to sort of take up a male hero’s mantle but then feminize the name. What’s happening here is much less common. While Thor is the most high-profile example of this, it’s not the first. Here are some of my favorite examples of this happening before.

From Hawkeye #3 art by David Aja

From Hawkeye #3 art by David Aja

Hawkeye

Back in 2005, Kate Bishop was introduced as a member of the team Young Avengers. Much like Clint Barton, the original Hawkeye, she doesn’t have any real superpowers, but is very skilled with a bow. She was recently one of the stars of Kieron Gillen and Jamie McKelvie’s amazing run on Young Avengers and currently costars with Clint Barton Hawkeye (aka Hawkguy) and Pizza Dog in Matt Fraction and David Aja’s Hawkeye.


 

From Robin #126 art by Damion Scott

From Robin #126 art by Damion Scott

Robin

Throughout the years, many different people have taken up the mantle of Robin, Batman’s sidekick. In the mainstream continuity, they’ve all been young men; that is, until Stephanie Brown put on the costume. Although her time as Robin has been marred by DC editors saying that “she was never really Robin,” Dr. Leslie Thomkins, Batman’s altruistic doctor friend, actually letting her die as a warning to other teen vigilantes and Batman not memorializing her as a Robin, she was still an important part of comic book history. She’s also been Batgirl and The Spoiler, which is both her original super hero identity and the one she is using in the New 52.


 

Art by Derrick Robertson

Art by Derrick Robertson

The Question

One of the most prominent lesbian and Latina superheroes of all-time, Renee Montoya took over the mantle of The Question from her friend and mentor Vic Sage after he died during the events of DC’s 52 storyline. Before she became The Question, Montoya was a tough cop working in Gotham City, and she even dated Kate Kane (also known as Batwoman) for a while. Unfortunately, she has not appeared in the relaunched New 52.


 

Carol Danvers as Captain Marvel. Art by David Lopez

Carol Danvers as Captain Marvel. Art by David Lopez

Captain Marvel

Although the current Captain Marvel, Carol Danvers, is probably the most famous woman to use this title, she’s not the first. The very first Captain Marvel was a male Kree alien named Mar-Vell, and before the current Captain Marvel, two other women were known by that name. The first was Monica Rambeau, an African-American woman and member of the Avengers. The second was the lesbian alien Phyla-Vell. Carol Danvers started going by Captain Marvel after she had spent years as Ms. Marvel, and is now one of the most powerful superheroes in the Marvel Universe.


 

Art by Marcos Martin

Art by Marcos Martin

Speedy

Speedy is to Green Arrow as Robin is to Batman, except that until the early 2000s, only one person had ever worn the costume. While the original Speedy was off being Arsenal, Mia Dearden came into Oliver Queen’s life. He was initially reluctant to let her become the new Speedy, but she was headstrong and soon got her wish. She’s notable as being one of the very few HIV-positive superheroes to exist in mainstream comics. Sadly, however, she has yet to appear in the New 52 DC universe.

Other examples of women taking over male superheroes’ mantles without going by a feminized version of the name include Kate Spencer as Manhunter, Holly and Dawn Granger as Hawk and Dove and Beth Chapel as Dr. Mid-nite.

New Releases (July 23)

Betty and Veronica Jumbo Comics Digest #225 (Archie Comics)

Adventure Time Fionna and Cake #5 (Variant Cover) (Boom!)

Bravest Warriors #22 (Boom!)

Buffy the Vampire Slayer Season 10 #5 (Dark Horse)

Tomb Raider #6 (Dark Horse)

Catwoman #33 (DC)

Wonder Woman #33 (DC)

Dejah of Mars #3 (Dynamite)

New Vampirella #1 (Variant Cover) (Dynamite)

X-Files Season 10 #14 (IDW)

Saga #21 (Image)

Storm #1 (Marvel)

Storm #1 cover by Victor Ibanez

Storm #1 cover by Victor Ibanez


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    SO MANY YELLING CONVERSATION I HAVE HAD ABOUT STEPHANIE BROWN. BATMAN SAID SHE WAS ROBIN ERGO SHE WAS ROBIN.

    …I get a little passionate about this.

    Also Mia! I will always love her for her constant innuendos about Ollie and Dinah’s sex life. Good job, Mia Dearden, five points for you.

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    This is so exciting! ALSO, the title of Captain America is being passed on to a black man (Sam Wilson/The Falcon), which is huge in a lot of ways too.

    Between the two I’m gliding down a Slip n Slide of angry white dude tears and it’s fantastic.

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    “Predictably, there have been a lot of complaints from “fanboys” saying that this move is “political correctness run amok” or “feminism gone too far.” ”

    That’s being generous. Dudebros predictably were enraged about it and it would have been if it weren’t so sad. Who is having sex with these people and why?

    And Storm is the queen of everything. That is all.

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    I’m excited to see this new character (or is she new? It could still be someone who’s been in the books already). But I gotta say, the use of the Thor name irritates me. Thor isn’t a title, it’s his name. Like, with the characters you listed, when Kate Bishop became Hawkeye or Renee Montoya became The Question, they took those titles but not their predecessors’ names. They didn’t become Clint Barton and Vic Sage! It just seems really WTF to me.

    But that small irritation aside, I am enjoying the whiteboy tears.

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    I’m fairly new to comics and I kind of have mixed reactions on this one. I watch the Marvel movies, and my first (and so far only) print comic is Ms. Marvel. I’m not too used to the mantel being passed onto other people yet, so maybe that’s why this feels odd. Like, on the one hand, I’ll probably buy the new Thor as it starts coming out in the fall (so Marvel will get it’s expanded audience). But on the other, my history of Thor comes from the actual mythology plus the Marvel movies. So it’s kind of weird for me having the God of Thunder become a woman instead of them making a new female lead for an original comic.

    But I will be buying it to see how this goes, and I definitely can get behind the strong Valkyrie style look the new Thor has going for her.

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