Here we go! The final stretch of this first The Ultimatum: Queer Love season two drop! We’re discussing episodes 6 and 7, and you can revisit recaps of episodes 1-3 and episodes 4 and 5. And then we shall collectively wait with bated breath until the next drop on July 2.
The Ultimatum: Queer Love Recap – Episode 6
Third Week of Trial Marriages (Continued)
Mel + Marie
Yes, we have a rare and forbidden meetup of original partners mid-first trial marriages, but unlike the AJ/Britney meetups, this one is on camera. Marie picks Mel up in her car, and they have the entire conversation right there. Marie says Dayna made it very clear she’s so happy to have Mel as her trial wife. “And then after this lovely conversation, Haley comes and tells me there’s proof that you and Dayna are fucking,” Marie says.
She asks if they’ve fucked and if Mel is lying. Mel says no, that it didn’t happen. Well then where is this coming from? Marie wants to know, because she’s very fucking triggered. “Is this going to soil everything?” she asks. Mel says she and Dayna have a connection and that they kissed but that’s the extent of it.
WHY IS SHE LYING????????????????????????????????????????????? THE TRUTH WILL COME OUT EVENTUALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THIS IS SO SHORT-SIGHTED!!!!!!!!!!!
Haley + Magan
Magan gives Haley the lowdown on Mel confronting her and also tells her Dayna called her to tell her she doesn’t want to marry her. She thinks Mel and Dayna came in ready to protect each other because they know they’ve done wrong. Haley says Dayna was talking about how she and Mel have been holding each other. “Yeah, holding each other or humping each other?” Magan asks. Whatever receipts exist about Mel and Dayna’s physical connection, Magan seemingly has them, too.
“You’re not gonna slander my wife,” Haley says, to which Magan responds “PERIOD!”
Haley says marriage is not the milestone for her anymore, and Magan says she’s so proud of her. She’s showing herself to the world more, and the world could use more of her. Magan then squats Haley’s body? And they roll around on the floor. Okay, these two are simply in puppy love and nothing can touch them.
Dayna + Mel
Mel tells Dayna that Haley told Marie there’s proof they’re fucking, and this sets Dayna all the way off. She wants Haley’s phone number. “Slimy bitch,” she says. I for one would certainly never get on Dayna’s bad side. I don’t want her to run my food truck into the river, and I don’t even HAVE a food truck!
Five Days Until the Changeover
Kyle + Pilar
Kyle introduces Pilar to her mom and dad, who are very cute. Kyle’s upbringing was pretty lax, and as a result, she doesn’t always tell someone like a partner when she’s leaving or where she’s going, and she knows that’s something she should work on. Her mom warns Pilar against becoming Kyle’s therapist, which, fair. Kyle’s mom, almost acting as therapist, asks what issues Pilar has with Haley, and Pilar opens up about her family stuff.
Kyle’s mom actually gave Kyle’s dad a marriage ultimatum when they were first together, and she says you have to think to yourself not can you see your life with the other person but can you see your life without them? Ultimately, most of Kyle’s mom’s advice is geared toward making things work with Haley, which is nice. This is sweet! We could use some sweetness on this show, especially now that shit really is hitting the fan.
AJ + Marie
AJ asks if Marie prefers sunrises or sunsets, and Marie says a sunrise means she was up all night which is never a good thing so she’ll go with sunset. Fair enough! Marie says Mel is incredibly adament that she did not have intercourse with Dayna. She thanks AJ for making a safe space for her to fly off the handle about all of this. AJ says the topic of marriage with Britney feels scary, but Marie has given her the space to express herself. “Not to be gay or cheesy,” AJ says, and Marie calls her gouda, correcting it to “gayda,” the gooiest and cheesiest. At least Marie has AJ, who really does seem like a good friend through all this.
On a lighter note later, the two are talking about sex toys, and AJ notes poetically that she likes her shit swaaaaaaangin.
Dayna + Mel
Mel wants answers from Dayna. “You don’t know that I love you?” she asks. She tells the camera she has told Dayna she has “more than friend feelings” for her, and Dayna admits she wants her but isn’t sure what that means. You know what time it is! Time for People Having Serious Conversations Under Blankets on the Couch!
Mel really wants answers! What the fuck are we doing!, she wants to know. I think she’s probably spiraling after being confronted by Marie and knows she could lose her when the truth comes out so wants to know if Dayna is a viable option walking out of all this. Dayna says she can’t answer her questions without talking to Magan. Fair! Dayna worries that if she doesn’t tell Mel what she wants to hear, then she’s gonna shut down on her. Mel just wants her to be real, and she says every time Dayna talks about Magan she feels like she isn’t focusing on her. Idk girl, I think it makes sense for her to be thinking about talking about the person she has been with for 1.5 years a bit more than the person she has been “with” for < 3 weeks.
Dayna says the “breakup” didn’t feel real with Magan until very recently. Now is when I would normally chime in to remind us all that the breakups indeed aren’t really real and are just a construct of this show’s wild premise, but…in their case? It might be kind of real! I think Magan is kind of done with Dayna!
To avoid making any direct statements about her own feelings, Dayna instead says to Mel she thinks Mel knows how happy she is. Alright, we’ll leave it at that I guess!
Later in the episode, they get…matching tattoos. Matching four leaf clover tattoos. Dayna admits it isn’t the best idea but that she isn’t really a good idea person anyway. Magan and her have talked about getting matching tattoos, so she anticipates Magan getting mad. This is wild! Dayna needs to make up her mind: Mel or Magan? She’s sending a lot of mixed signals to them both. And Mel is really making the decision to get this tattoo with Dayna after Marie’s breakdown?! WHAT IS GOING ON.
Haley + Magan
Magan is meeting Haley’s family! And they’re doing it over a meal at home rather than out, which is pretty cute. Magan is excited to meet Haley’s dad but scared to meet her sister. She doesn’t have a sister herself, and she knows that kind of relationship can be intense. Haley also notes that her niece is like a sister to her. Magan asks if her outfit looks okay. Omg, she really cares a lot about this. Not beating the Falling In Love With Your Trial Wife allegations! Though to be fair, I don’t think either of them are really trying to beat those?
Haley tells her dad, sister, and niece how similar she and Magan are. They all know how different she is from Pilar. “We’ve always been super honest,” Magan tells them (for three weeks, I’ll remind you).
Haley’s sister immediately asks about kids, and Magan notes they discussed it on their first date. She reiterates she wants kids. She’s Lebanese and comes from a culture that emphasizes the importance of it. Haley tells her family that the fact that Magan wants to carry does nudge her a bit. This is not the Haley her sister knows! Haley’s dad is surprised, too, especially by how easy Magan and Haley are making this absurd situation seem.
Haley’s niece says Magan seems really genuine and kind but also starts crying, saying she really likes Pilar. Omg, someone assure this teen! I don’t think teens should be brought into the universe of this show at all! It’s too confusing and weird! If my sister were like “here’s this person I just met who I am considering a life with instead of the person I’ve been with for a DECADE” I would be so perplexed! But Haley does assure her that Pilar will always be in her life.
Magan reiterates that the whole experience has been eye-opening for her, and that not matter what a lot is going to change.
Britney + Marita
Marita wonders if she’ll have to change Britney’s name in her phone from “wifey” to “divorcee.” See, I love that these two are so unserious about it all. Suddenly, they’re crying and emotional, but it’s just because they both know what they want and aren’ sure if they’re going to get it from their partners.
Marita asks Britney what she hopes to see from AJ, and Britney isn’t sure what to expect from her. For what it’s worth, I do think Britney could end up with a ring on her finger at the end of all of this. I feel less sure of it for Marita.
But no one can say Marita didn’t have the best Trial Wife! Britney cooks her OXTAIL. It looks so fucking good!!!! That’s REAL love right there.
Ashley + Bridget
Not too much going on with these two, per usual. Bentley the dog prefers Bridget. They discuss how they need to better advocate for themselves when it comes to their Original Partners. The most interesting thing to me about this conversation personally is that Ashley lives in St. Pete! I’m sure I’ve probably seen her at the Dog Bar with Bentley.
Final Night of Trial Marriages
Dayna + Mel
On their last night together, Dayna and Mel read to each other from letters they wrote. Dayna wrote hers at 5 a.m. “I never knew how much I needed you,” she reads. Mel wrote a letter, too. “You have made me the happiest I’ve been in a long time,” she says. Who knows, maybe these two could go the distance!
Haley + Magan
These two are also NOT ready for The Changeover. They’re crying and cuddling in bed. Magan isn’t sure if she’s happy or sad right now. She has realized how important it is to make decisions for herself and that it’s possible to have the things you want.
Haley then says I LOVE YOU. And Magan says I LOVE YOU, TOO. They are IN LOVE. This, to me, is way juicier than sex.
The Changeover
Joanna “I’m an Ally” Garcia Swisher (yes, that’s her government name) is here to guide the stressed out lesbians through their feelings about The Changeover, during which they will exit their Trial Marriages with the people they chose and enter into new Trial Marriages with the Original Partners they came to the show with.
In a talking head, Pilar reveals her worst fear is that she’s ready for marriage and Haley is in love with someone else, to which I say: YIKES, GIRL. Because that’s indeed what has occurred.
Also heading into this conversation: Magan reiterates that every step she took with Haley was authentic but that she doesn’t necessarily want to close the book on Dayna. Dayna says Mel has promised her things beyond what Magan has promised. She says something about Haley getting her claws in Magan, and that’s such misdirected animosity. Haley has not manipulated Magan lol, Magan has made all her own choices. But I think choosing a narrative where it’s all Haley’s fault probably feels easier for her.
Sitting at the table, Britney shares that her Trial Marriage was amazing and that Marita was a huge cheerleader for her. I think these two are probably some of the only ones here who got real value out of this whole experience, and it’s because it had nothing to do with romance or sex but just personal growth.
Marita agrees. Britney gives her the “romantic antics” she doesn’t get from Ashley. Britney cooked her oxtail last night! AJ interrupts here: “I’m sorry?” She’s like THAT was a boundary! No oxtails were to be made! This is fair. This would be like me making my chai for another woman if I were on this show (in case it needs to be said: I WOULD NEVER BE ON THIS SHOW). Cutting through the brief humor of this moment, Ashley says she can see Britney giving Maria all the things she can’t. “I think they’d be a great couple honestly,” she says. AWK.
Ashley and Bridget have similarly had a very wholesome Trial Marriage focused on personal growth. Ashley compliments Bridget’s style and confidence. Bridget is proud of Ashley for building her self confidence and appreciates that she checks in before she leaves, which as we know Kyle does not. Bridget’s advice to Marita and Ashley is to both acknowledge their own faults. If Marita needs grand gestures, they need to better understand each other’s feelings more, Bridget suggests. Marita does not like receiving this relationship advice. She feels like Bridget is making assumptions. Ashley tells her to chill out, because they’re all in the same boat and probably all making assumptions about each other’s original relationships after the Trial Marriages. Here’s the thing about Ashley and Marita: They just truly don’t seem like a good fit for each other and not for any dramatic reasons. It’s just not a fit!
Pilar and Kyle are back to being in a very good place. Pilar acknowledges they had their hard moments but feels they came out stronger than ever. Kyle says Pilar helped her work through her emotions and be more understanding and mature through conflict. She tells Pilar she has so much time to work through things with Haley. DOES SHE? Because Haley seems to be very in love with someone else!
Okay, FINALLY, it’s time for some drama! Pilar does not care for the fact that Haley posted a quote on her Instagram story that said: “Sometimes you want to disappear but all you want to do is be found.” Now, personally, I think the main reason she should be mad about Haley posting this quote is because it doesn’t really make sense? And sounds silly? But no, Pilar is mad because she feels like Haley is passive aggressively suggesting something about their relationship and her new relationship with Magan. But Haley REALLY gets the kicker here: “You’re gonna talk to me about stories when you posted Kyle with heart eye emojis and then blocked me???????” DAMNNNNNN. Bridget is quietly like “I didn’t know about that.”
BLOCKED?
BLOCKED.
Pilar scoots past this little heart eyes / blocked accusation and asks if there’s really nothing more to Haley and Magan.
“We’re very authentic,” Magan says. “We’ll tell you anything you want to know.”
Things just got good. Is it just me or is this season WAY more bonkers than last season? And that’s really saying something…
But oh wait, it’s about to get even wilder.
Next: Ultimatum Queer Love Season Two Recap Episode 7
The Ultimatum: Queer Love Recap – Episode 7
We pick up where we left off, with this little Instagram stories debacle. Not-Gay Joanna Garcia Swisher tries to cut the tension. Yes, she knows they signed up for this, but that doesn’t take away the real emotions, and she understands that and is holding space for it.
AJ and Marie share their experience in their Trial Marriage, which ended up going quite well because even though Marie was in a dark place, AJ was there for her through it. Marie says they laid the groundwork for a genuine friendship. “We completely removed the intimacy from it, because you can only hide behind that shit,” she says, rather pointedly, prompting a silent reaction from Dayna. AJ likes how Marie took care of her through little gestures like waking her up with a cup of coffee.
Haley and Magan share next, and I have a feeling Dayna is not going to take any of this well. But how much will they reveal? Let’s see. Haley says her Trial Marriage was really easy een though they also cried and did hard work on themselves. Haley learned vulnerability. Magan came into all of this with a lot of questions and a sense of feeling lost. But she discovered how to push herself and that her quirks are damn good qualities. She feels more secure. I’m loving all of this for Magan.
Every time the camera cuts to Dayna, it looks like she wants to fight.
Magan loves that Haley “riffs her bits.” Wow, okay, these two are in love fr.
It’s Dayna and Mel’s turn to talk, but Dayna can’t right now and asks Mel to go first. Mel calls their Trial Marriage together life-changing. She thinks it’s the first time someone has ever really truly seen her without running away or getting scared. Where she struggles in communication with Marie, she didn’t feel that with Dayna.
Dayne says they both have very emotional partners and so don’t feel like they have space to have their own emotions. She doesn’t feel comfortable or safe sharing how she feels with Magan.
Alright, time to FIGHT.
Magan wants to bring up the fact that Dayna didn’t acknowledge her at the pool that day. She doesn’t think she deserved that. She says that when that happened, she decided to create space. Magan says when Dayna called her that one night, it was to say she was breaking up with her and going home. Mel and Dayna try to call Magan out for her reaction to that. “You said ‘have a safe flight,'” Dayna says. She polls the tale to ask if anyone there would say “have a safe flight” if their partner called them and told them they were leaving. I think it’s actually weirder that when Magan so desperately wanted to leave at the beginning of all this, Dayna convinced her like no, baby, staying on a reality television program will actually be great for us and our relationship. Dayna tries to spin that moment as her having been there for Magan, but WAS SHE?
“When I need you, I tell you I need you,” Magan says. “When you need me, you tell me you’re breaking up with me.” Yeah, it’s classic manipulation.
Magan then drops that she knows Dayna has been fucking around on this trip. Dayna pivots to attacking Haley, calling her Magan’s “little friend” and saying she went to Marie to say she had proof Dayna and Mel were fucking. Probably because they WERE fucking! It was caught on *Jenna Maroney voice* CAM-AH-RAH!!!! Like, I really do not understand how Dayna and Mel think they can get away with continuing to lie about this?
Haley wants to clarify: At the group night out, she didn’t feel like Dayna was being truthful, and she knew there were receipts proving Mel and Dayna were sexual. Dayna thinks Haley only did this because she didn’t like that Dayna had called her out, to which Haley responds: Call out for WHAT? Dayna never threatened or called her out at the night out! What is the narrative spinning that Dayna is attempting?! It’s always interesting when people used to skewing or controlling a narrative go on reality television, because it’s so much harder to pull off when there are CAMERAS ON YOU.
AJ wants to know why Dayna and Mel are getting so defensive. It’s almost like they have something to hide. Marie, for now, seems to still believe Mel, and whew I am scared for what will happen when she realizes she’s being lied to on NATIONAL TELEVISION. Dayna is crashing out for real, and Britney has to step in to tell her her tone is ridiculous and she needs to talk to people like they matter. This sort of works and Dayna takes a breath.
Okay, it’s time for the receipts reveal. And the receipts are…Spotify? Allow Magan to explain. She and Haley were sitting in their bedroom, and the TV goes to Spotify, and it’s logged into Dayna’s account. It was all sex playlists. There was a private playlist she and Mel created together. Dayna also took all of the songs from her playlist with Magan, including THEIR SONG (I wish I knew what their song was!), and moved them onto a playlist with Mel. Magan says she doesn’t appreciate it. Finally, Dayna and Mel don’t deny this. Dayna says “okay babe” and Mel says “understood.”
Joanna “Has Never Seen The L Word” Garcia Swisher chimes in to say she knows tonight has been emotional but that she has seen a lot of growth. WHAT? WE’RE MOVING ON? I THOUGHT THINGS WERE JUST HEATING UP! I mean, I guess they need to stretch the drama into as many episodes as possible, but I really thought we were going to get into this more right away! Guess we’re saving it for the Trial Marriages part deux.
Second Trial Marriages Begin
Everyone’s in vans taking them to their new cohabitation apartments. Some are having better times than others.
Britney + AJ
Britney and AJ waste no time getting all up on each other in the back of their car. But AJ also has a bone to pick: OXTAILS??? REALLY????? Britney could have made her anything else! Jerk chicken! But OXTAILS? Britney says Marita was asking her to eat it off the bone, and this pushes AJ over the edge. Good oxtails wasted on a white woman! I love this fake fight lol. I really think Britney and AJ are great for each other.
Later in their apartment, AJ and Britney are kissing some more. There’s a bunny here! AJ can’t keep her hands off of Britney, who wants to know how being with Marie was. AJ liked that Marie made her breakfast while she was working and was home all the time. Britney points out she was that woman before she opened her Medspa, but owning a business is a lot of work. AJ wants to know what happens if she proposes and things go badly with the business and they have to put the engagement on pause. That’s scary to her. But Britney accurately points out that AJ is putting their relationship on pause for a hypothetical situation. Britney knows things could change with the business any time. That’s life! Again, I think these two are gonna make it out. AJ just needs to stop overthinking it. People are always overthinking marriage tbh! I suppose that’s what this show runs on though.
Ashley + Marita
These two are just eating candy/snacks in the back of their car and delighting in the fact that they may have their issues, but they aren’t anything like what they saw just go down between Dayna/Mel/Haley/Magan. These two don’t even know what oxtails are and are PROVING AJ’S POINT!!!!
Ashley and Marita are such a striking example of two people who just simply aren’t a good fit for each other. No one has done anything wrong; they’re just not right for each other. At the beginning of their Trial Marriage, Ashley asks Marita what qualities should be in a marriage, and Ashley says you should want to share your lives together. Ashley is like what about loyalty, honesty, communication? All things she brings to the table. She wants to know what she’s missing, and Marita again says showing up. Marita bought Ashley flowers, and Ashley is like I don’t even like flowers, and Marita says it’s because she wants flowers. And, sure, yeah, if all Marita wants is flowers, Ashley should probably just pick up some flowers at the grocery store, even if it seems like a hollow gesture to her. Marita clearly wants those kinds of surface-level displays of “showing up.” Ashley says she has fought for her for three and a half years and it’s never good enough. Marita thinks Ashley is saying that their biggest issue is how she receives love. Oh my god, this is painful to watch, because I think Marita is just so young and Ashley is stubborn.
“We’re both just like not happy,” Ashley says. “We’re not aligning.” NOW WE SAID IT. This is really it. Ashley needs a break and leaves. I think she should follow that instinct and leave this relationship.
Bridget + Kyle
Things are slightly tense between Bridget and Kyle in the car, but not quite as bad as it is for some of our more drama-laden couples. Kyle tells Bridget there was a kiss, and Bridget wants to know how it happened, but Kyle doesn’t quite seem ready to talk about it.
Perhaps they can work through it in their latest segment of People Having Serious Conversations Under Blankets on the Couch. Bridget is confused. Kyle feels awful. The kiss didn’t mean anything though. Kyle assures her she doesn’t have a wandering eye, and Bridget says she looks at her as this perfect person, which Kyle correctly points out isn’t fair because she can’t live up to perfection, no one can! They resolve to stop talking about the past and just focus on each other. They seal the deal with an eyelash wish, which is very cute! I think these two could make it out of here together, too.
Marie + Mel
In the car, Marie tells Mel that clearly the Spotify shit was the receipts Haley had been talking about. Is Mel still maintaining the lie about not hooking up with Dayna? Is Marie still buying it?! “A locked playlist, Mel? Really?” she asks. I need to know if Mel has cheated on Marie before, because I get the impression that Marie has been talking around that!!!
Oh, she’s still lying. She tells Marie she and Dayna “teetered the line” but ultimately decided they loved their partners too much to do anything. WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Marie is appalled by the matching tattoos but honestly not as mad as I thought she’d be? “My god, she’s really gonna be a part of my life forever, isn’t she?” Marie asks, almost like she’s just accepting that?
Mel tells the camera she and Dayna have a strong bond emotionally. DO THEY? I feel like all we really saw between Mel and Dayna was a physically bond. Any time they talked about emotions, it actually fell apart. Whereas Haley and Magan did indeed hook up, we also saw them doing so much work on themselves, and even the way they talked about sex was healthy, especially because they did so on camera right away. Dayna and Mel’s Trial Marriage seemed more just like a horny good time, which is fine! But to then lie about the sex is wild. I think Dayna had fun with Mel and then was ready to go back to her real girlfriend. But they’re both struggling to reckon with that, Mel realizing she could lose Marie if the truth comes out, and Dayna encountering a Magan who seems to have grown to the point of outgrowing the relationship.
Marie believes and trusts Mel. GIRL! G I R L !!!!! I cannot believe Mel has her out here looking like a fool. The food truck will never be the same.
Over smoothies together, Mel tells Marie she doesn’t want her to change her mind about kids on her account. She doesn’t want her to change her core values. But Marie insists she wouldn’t be giving up something by giving up the idea of starting a family. She can be fulfilled in other ways. I would support all this if I wasn’t also wanting to tell Marie to run from the person LYING TO HER FACE! Mel says for the first time marriage and kids could be on the table. I’m truly so confused by what Mel wants out of all of this.
Haley + Pilar
In the car, Pilar right away wants to know if Haley and Magan did anything. Haley says yes and that they will talk about it. Listen, if you’re going to sleep with your trial partner, the least you can do is be honest about it!
Okay, honestly, all the Haley/Pilar stuff is making me very sad. Because here we again have another instance where no one has really done anything wrong, but the situation is way more complicated than, say, Marita/Ashley who have only been together a few years. Haley and Pilar have been together a DECADE. And they’ve never been in a queer relationship with anyone else. On top of that, Pilar lost her family when she came out, and no doubt not only has Haley become her family, but so has Haley’s family. I think these two need to separate, and if it’s meant to be, maybe they find their ways back to each other. But Haley jumping into things with Magan as quickly as she did really just indicates to me that she needs to have some experiences outside of the relationship that has defined her entire adult life. Similarly, I think Pilar would have actually gone a lot further with Kyle if Kyle had been open to it! And maybe she’d be able to better swallow everything Haley is now saying about Magan if she’d been able to have that opportunity with someone else, too.
Haley tells Pilar she and Magan realized they don’t want to go back to the way things were before. She says of course she and Magan were attracted to each other, and Pilar doesn’t take too kindly to the use of “of course” here. Pilar asks if they cuddled, and Haley says yes. She asks if they cuddled night one, and Haley says yes. This is reminding me of the time I found sexual email correspondences between my now-ex and her sidepiece and my first question was “have you kissed?” when really it should have been “have you fucked?” but it’s like my brain couldn’t quite get there yet. But I guess Pilar could also be wondering about how intimate Haley really got with Magan, and in many ways cuddling can signal more intimacy than fucking!
I don’t FULLY understand what Haley means here when she talks about how she and Magan decided that if Pilar and Dayna were feeling the way that she and Magan were feeling then they would have regrets coming out of the experience if they didn’t explore whatever it is they wanted to do coming into the experience…I mean are you even following the sentence I just wrote?! Because I am not! What does she mean here! I don’t think she needs to justify her and Magan’s actions in the context of them assuming how Dayna/Pilar were feeling. I think she can just say they wanted to do it and leave it at that!
Anyway, yes, she confirms to Pilar, they did “cross that line” (had sex). Pilar asks if it was one time, and Haley says it was not. Pilar wants to ask how many, and Haley wonders if that will help the conversation. She admits she wasn’t, like, counting. Pilar asks if Haley has an emotional connection with Magan, which yes does indeed seem like the more pertinent question. Haley confirms yes they do. Pilar asks Haley if she loves her, and Haley nods. They both cry. Haley tries to give her a hug, but she doesn’t want to be touched. They both stand next to each other on the balcony, holding their heads. Pilar’s worst fear was that she’d get to the point where she was ready for marriage and Haley would have fallen with someone else, and now it’s happening!
Again, this is so sad! I feel so bad for them! Breaking up after 10 years together feels like an impossible thing to do. I’m not sure where they go from here! But at least Haley is being honest about her feelings for Magan! Lying would make this all so much worse. It’s hard, but they’re communicating in a way that is ultimately healthy.
Magan + Dayna
Alright, let’s get into it. In the car, Dayna is like “you can’t even look at me?” Magan cannot. She says Dayna chose to go about her three weeks the way she did, so now she can’t be mad at her for how she feels about it. She thinks Dayna is only sorry because this is all backfiring in her face. Dayna asks if she’s saying they’re done and don’t have a future. “I really don’t think so,” Magan says. I also don’t think they have a future, for what it’s worth.
Dayna volunteers to sleep on the couch. Magan is shook that Dayna didn’t tell her the tattoo she got was MATCHING with Mel’s until she ASKED. They’d talked about getting matching tattoos together. Instead, she did it with Mel. “I can’t believe I wanted to marry you,” Magan says.
She feels like she and Dayna have no sacredness left together. The tattoo, the sex playlist, Dayna basically took intimate parts of their relationship and gave them to someone else. I get it! These feel like bigger betrayals than sex. Honestly, who cares about the sex? Except for the fact that Dayna and Mel are lying about it, which makes it way, way worse.
Magan, at last, tells Dayna outright that she and Haley hooked up. I do wish she had done this a bit sooner so she’d have firmer a leg to stand on in whatever Dayna now throws her way. Dayna is likely going to skew this as Magan hiding it from her. Magan also tells her it wasn’t just sex, that there was an emotional connection, too, and that she’s in love with Haley. Dayna flies off the handle immediately. She says Magan did exactly what Magan thought SHE was going to do. She thinks Magan is trying to hate her so she can feel better about her actions. She immediately calls her mom and asks her to get on a flight and come right now.
Dayna is no doubt going to make it seem like what Magan did is no different than what she did with Mel, but Dayna and Mel are choosing to lie! They’re choosing to manipulate! And so much of this all goes back to Dayna and Mel ignoring their partners at the pool. I think so much hurt could have been avoided if that hadn’t happened.
And that’s where this first batch of The Ultimatum: Queer Love season 2 leaves us, with Dayna threatening to go back to Michigan once again. With Pilar and Haley holding their heads in agony. With Marie choosing to believe a poorly lying Mel. And with everyone else comparatively doing pretty okay. The next batch of episodes drops on July 2. What are your predictions?
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Long rant to come:
It was funny how often people threw around the words “growth,” “working on myself/ourselves” – it could have easily been a game of bingo or a drinking game.
Loved how Marie said: “Didn’t just everyone talk about growth?” when some participants were screaming and yelling at each other during the dinner. And puzzlingly, the straight host then said she had seen so much growth?? After all the fighting and yelling? I’m so confused.
Also, why do people use the words “trauma” and “trigger” so much for random situations? Not just in this show. These words are way overused and not accurate for most moments. Same with “codependent.”
I also have to remind myself again and again that this is a reality television show and the straight host not a mediator. I wish these people had a mediator or a therapist, but the point of the show is not good communication but loud conflict.
There are so many instances in which a conflict could have gone differently if one person had asked a question instead of getting angry and declaring that they always do this. Like asking: “What does showing up look like for you?” Because Marita and Ashley have so different definition of what that is and I feel they are not speaking about the same thing.
Further, I wish people would not use the words “always” and “never” in conflicts but give specific examples of the behavior they dislike. And also saying “You’ll always be in my life” to a person you lived with for three weeks is kind of wild? Many people get married and then divorced, and their ex-spouse is not in their lives any more at all. It sounds so premature???
WHY IS MEL LYING INDEED. Didn’t they all watch season one to see how well that turned out with people LYING ON CAMERA?!
If I met Dayna in real life, I would try to go away as far as possible. Would never want her to attack and yell at me which she seems to do on the regular with people.
Dayna: “I’m not a good idea girl” – Me: “So true.”
“Magan wants kids – she’s Lebanese and comes from a culture that emphasizes the importance of it.“ Sure but there are also Lebanese people who don’t want kids. It is fine if these are Magan’s reasons for having kids, I guess I just want to say… Not everyone from a specific culture wants the same things?
In the car, Kyle speaks about the kiss in the words “it happened” as if there were not one/two people who actively did something. Not “Pilar kissed me” or “Pilar and I kissed” or anything like that. Like Bridget, I ask: “It HAPPENED? What does that mean?”
With all the meals in this show, I wonder: where are all the vegetarian and vegan lesbians???
“Joanna ‘Has Never Seen The L Word’ Garcia Swisher” – haha, I just want to point out that Alison Bechdel also never watched The L Word and is very gay, unlike the straight host!
In the beginning, Magan was all like “If my girlfriend had sex with someone else, I don’t know if there is a coming back from that…” – she was so jealous! And now she passes judgement while also having had sex with her – ahem- “trial wife”? But disclosing that so very late? What is happening?
I somehow get the impression that AJ wants to be a provider and wants Britney to be a housewife? Even though she is saying she would never take that work away for her, but all the other things AJ is saying… I don’t know…
“I don’t FULLY understand what Haley means here when she talks about how she and Magan decided that if Pilar and Dayna were feeling the way that she and Magan were feeling then they would have regrets coming out of the experience if they didn’t explore whatever it is they wanted to do coming into the experience…“ – As I understood it, it was a bad justification for “we wanted to have sex” wrapped in a “we thought you’d be sorry if you didn’t and so we did the same” … Kind of: we did it for your sake almost!
Okay, a wrap on this enormous rant. Thank you Kayla for the funny recap!!
I’m only following this show through your updates and know I’m confusing bits of it, but woo the drama between Dayna and Magan is WILD.
Hopefully I can remember the juicy bits for the next recap lol
I do not understand this show at all! Are they meant to hook up with their trial wives, or not? Are they supposed to get close and flirt, but not have sex? Does each couple set their own rules for it? Do they really fall in love with the new person in 3 weeks??? I don’t watch it, I’m poly and honestly don’t understand, but the recaps are a (confusing) blast!
It’s an option, technically. Buttttt… each couple can set their own rules for what they are comfortable with for their partner to do in their trial marriage, but the show sort of presents it to us as if everything is on the table for everyone and don’t tell us what the couples have decided. It is confusing in the show too, I wish that a contingency of it was that everything had to be on the table for MAX DRAMA.
i love this show as captured by your recaps. britney for the win, which doesnt include AJ imo!
I love these recaps! You give AJ an easy time though – she’s funny, charismatic and a good person at heart but alongside Marita she is the only one who never reflects on herself and just the other person in the relationship. And the other person is BRITNEY. Who is fantastic.
Coming in stating she is not ready because she wants to be able to be good enough for Britney and be a better provider but then telling Britney the thing she liked about her trial marriage was that she was always at home and made her breakfast/ran her errands aka or you could just make less and centre me is not it.
At one point Britney even makes this impassioned speech about how she is trying to see things through AJs lens and instead of reciprocating she just says “thanks” and we move to intense handholding whils Under Blankets on the Couch (TM)
Is anyone else wondering what sidechats are happening when the masc women hit the apartment gym?
Also the role online had to play here is super interesting- the Spotify playlist, the blocking! It feels like the programme has about 50% of the story as that half is happening in the real world(!)
I also enjoy a sort of gay community bingo with this show. The undercuts, the chains, the mullets, gay buns, terrible sex puns, the concept of having a smart t shirt. I recognise and have love for it all.
im still thinking about mal saying ‘do u want n*ggas to DIE FOR YOU YOLY’ in season one. one of the best reality tv show lines ever.
regarding this season, i feel so sad for pilar!! but genuinely its beautiful to see magan coming to life and finding safety and joy with haley. dayna seems like an exhausting person to be in a rlship with, and im so happy that magan is just completely done with it.
i find bridget to be sooo cute, i love her smile and her hair and their soft but decisive personality.