A couple of weeks ago, we — Brittani, Cara, Grace and I — received a terrifying demand from the Powers That Be (otherwise known as a polite email from Laneia) requesting single members of the team who might be interested in a unique challenge. We, the few, the proud, the unspoken-for, would boldly sign up for Tinder, the hot new dating app that all the kids were using, and learn about what such an app was like through a queer lens. I’d known a few straight women who swore by it, but from their stories it had always seemed sort of shallow — like a heterosexual version of Grindr, but without the oomph. I can’t say any of us were thrilled to sign up, but we knew what we had to do: we had to sign up for a dating app and prepare to meet a lot of ladies… for science.


Stef’s Story

Stef (Music Editor), 30, Los Angeles, CA

The others agreed to be a part of this Tinder project out of the goodness of their hearts, but for me it actually seemed to be a logical thing to do. I’d just moved to Los Angeles from New York City a few days prior, and I was brand new in a huge city filled with potential babes. I’ve been single for a couple of years, but I’m no stranger to online dating. I’ve met some really great people on OkCupid and was curious about what Tinder might look and feel like.

I learned the answer very quickly: Tinder feels shallow and ephemeral. Once you sign in, you’re swept into a veritable ocean of total strangers. The app attaches itself to your Facebook account and gathers profiles of people who presumably fall within your desired search parameters (mostly age and location). Although I had my app set to search for only women, a large percentage of my results were male, and I wasn’t sure if many of the women Tinder presented me with were actually interested in dating girls. When a profile comes up, you see only the picture, name and age of your potential match. You can swipe right to “like,” swipe left to reject, or if you’d like more information, you can click on the photo to view a brief profile. Each profile contains a short bio, any shared friends or interests you might have (based off your Facebook information), and usually a couple of extra photos. If you both “like” each other, you have the option to send a message, and what happens next is up to you.

There’s not much information to work with, so most of your reaction is based upon that one initial photo – and once you reject someone, there’s no way to reverse it. At times, I felt like I got trigger-happy clicking “nope” on so many faces, and I’d start to feel bad about myself. I found myself “liking” profiles of people who just seemed nice, purely out of solidarity. Instead of helping me meet interesting people and figure out my new west coast life, Tinder placed me in a downward spiral of Jewish guilt.

Although I date guys from time to time, I wasn’t super interested in meeting any off this app – but Tinder had other ideas, and continued to suggest them. After a couple of days, the only people I’d matched with were men I felt lukewarm about, and I was starting to doubt my ability to function in queer circles in Los Angeles. I tried changing my pictures around to photos where I was playing instruments or doing something that might spark a conversation with a cute new girl. Often after I’d clicked through just a few profiles, the app would inform me that there was nobody around, that I was all alone in this world, that I was going to die alone and I’d better get used to it.  Sometimes this would happen while I was sitting right next to Grace or Brittani, which was really confusing. I expanded my search parameters to include Brittani and Grace’s age range, but never found them (probably because we’re all Facebook friends). Grace even tried deleting me off Facebook, which didn’t help us find each other on Tinder, but did hurt my feelings.

And there never will be, sorry.

Learning the culture of a new city is always challenging, and I wondered how different Tinder might be if I could search for people with similar interests. When you walk into a room full of new people, it’s rare that you’ll meet even one person you share tons of common interests with, and Tinder was like an infinite room of totally random strangers. It could be days before I’d find a girl with an elaborate sleeve tattoo, or one who listened to Depeche Mode, or one who read the same kinds of morbid Russian novels I liked. The only way I could find these people was by rejecting dozens of others, and even though none of those people would ever know I’d placed an orange “NOPE” stamp across their foreheads, the action still took a toll on my heart every time. The one common interest I did seem to have with a lot of girls on Tinder was JWoww from Jersey Shore, and (while I unapologetically adore JWoww) that didn’t seem particularly encouraging as the basis for any kind of relationship.

At various times, all four of us encountered the insidious Tinder bot disguising itself as Zosia Mamet from HBO’S Girls, enthusiastically endorsing her own interview on Glamour Magazine’s website. I’d pay good money to have been a fly on the wall at whatever board meeting decided that Tinder was an appropriate social media marketing tool, and lament that Zosia and I will never meet and fall in love and feed each other rugelach by candlelight. The Zosia bot seemed like a rite of passage among the four of us, and none of us felt truly a part of the Tinder Project until each of us had been subjected to her wrath.

At long last, nearly a week into this experiment, I finally matched with an icy-looking blonde girl whose profile offered absolutely zero personal information. By this point, I was happy to match with a real live human being who wasn’t a robot or a bearded dude. She sent me a poorly spelled message, and when I didn’t respond immediately, she sent another, asking how my day was. This was my first actual correspondence with a girl on Tinder, and as I weighed my options, I received a notification that she’d sent a third message. By the time I’d opened the app to read it, she’d apparently swiped left and deleted herself from my matches. I’m not sure what the third message said, but it was very clear I’d been dumped by someone I had never communicated with in my whole life.

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This is what Tinder feels like

The next day, I struck veritable Tinder gold – I matched up with a guy who actually worked for Tinder. The engineer declined to let me use his name for this interview, but did answer some of my questions. Namely, I was concerned with why so many men and straight women were showing up in my search for only women interested in women – in fact, why had he showed up in the first place?  My new Tinder boyfriend’s answers did little to comfort me. He insisted that the legions of straight girls must have listed themselves as also seeking women, and that perhaps they just couldn’t read the profile settings properly.

As for the men, he explained that personally he’d been messing with his settings to test out a technical change, but theorized that the men showing up in my search had listed themselves as women seeking women in order to meet some crrraaaazy open-minded bisexual chicks such as myself. I can’t say I was convinced (that seemed awfully discouraging), but that (gross) explanation might have some merit. To test his hypothesis,  I changed my settings to male seeking male. I found one woman in maybe sixty men. My Tinder employee seemed to be right, and this realization made me feel especially icky about any of the other guys I’d matched with. For the first time in a long time, I found myself aching for that brilliant OKCupid setting that blocks straight people from viewing your profile.


Next: Cara

Cara’s Chronicle

Cara (Contributing Editor), 24, Jamaica Plain, MA

Tinder is mad shallow. Logistically, there are good things about this. For instance, the barrier to entry is very low (if you have a Facebook profile, merely press one button and it will be Shrinky-Dinked into a Tinder profile), which means it’s easy to technically get started. But, since there’s hardly any room to demonstrate personality or interests or anything more than what Tinder deems “vital stats” (age, gender, location), it’s difficult to actually get started — i.e. difficult to have conversations with people, which is what Tinder supposedly wants you to do. At least when you approach someone cute at a bar, you know that you’re both in the same bar, and then some song is playing or they’re drinking something weird or whatever, and you find a way to strike up a conversation and it works or not. And at least when you’re on OkCupid, even if you pick someone based on a headshot, you can click through and find something to talk with them about (you can also usually tell how invested they are in getting something out of OkCupid, based on how complete their profile is). I ended up talking to most people on Tinder about Tinder.

I feel strange piling such heavy analysis on such a light app. Here are some lists instead.


5 Tinder Highlights

1. Having a really nice, long conversation about snow and museums and lost pens with someone who lives over a hundred miles away from me and who I will probably never meet.

2. That brief second when I thought I had truly matched with Zosia Mamet.

ILU SHOSH

3. Even if you never talk with them, matching with someone actually feels kind of cool. Depending on the day, the coolness amount ranged from “sweet, I just won an arcade game” to “maybe I’m not alone in the world.”

4. Tinder is a great place to practice emoji-trolling.

WHEEEEEE

5. Matching with someone who looked familiar and realizing she’d attended my Autostraddle Holigay Party.


5 Tinder Lowlights

1. Realizing that everyone else in the world ALSO liked Postsecret on Facebook when they were freshmen in high school.

NOT AGAIN

2. Getting caught up in an orgy of left-swiping and accidentally “NOPE”ing someone who I quickly figured out was Mal Blum (SORRY MAL. Can’t wait to meet you at A-Camp.)

3. This:

(NO JUDGEMENT IT’S JUST NOT WHAT I’M LOOKING FOR)

4. Realizing Zosia was just trying to make me read Glamour and we will never be together.

zosia_tinder

5. Having a really nice, long conversation about snow and museums and lost pens with someone who lives over a hundred miles away from me and who I will probably never meet.


As Stef pointed out, either the gender settings on the app are flawed or a lot of people don’t know how to use them… I was shown a lot of guys and a fair amount of women who were not interested in women. Although it’s not totally necessary (if you swipe yes on someone and they’re straight, they probably just won’t yes-swipe you back) I found myself drawn to people who were able to make their queerness known. I really hope they fix this function soon, though — it seems really bad that this app, which should easily eliminate some of the invisibility/gaydar problems that plague our community, makes them worse instead.

4 Ways to Flag on Tinder

1. Like Autostraddle on Facebook. If someone else does, too, it’ll show up in your little mutual “likes” thing and it’s a dead giveaway.

2. Strategic clothing.

EFFECTIVE

3. Girls-holding-hands emoji in profile. You can also just say what/who you’re into — lots of people do — but the emoji is pretty cute.

4. Well-placed references.

LOOKING FOR SOMEONE TO LEAVE ME AT THE ALTAR SO I CAN QUIT THIS CRAZY SHOW

Overall, I sense Tinder will work wonders for people in major cities who either are just looking to hook up/widen their social circle/populate parties, or have the time and energy to go on a LOT of dates with total strangers. For everyone else it seems about as effective as going to a queer dance night. But I hope some of you prove me wrong.


Next: Brittani 

Brittani’s Parable

Brittani (Comedienne, Sports Editor), 25, Los Angeles, CA

I’m never looking to date. Dating is always a thing that sort of just happens to me, sometimes against my will. The idea of using a dating app with the expressed intention of contacting strangers for dates is anti-everything-I-believe-in. I just haven’t reached a point in my life where I’m seeking out someone who will eventually destroy me and everything I believe in (I guess I’m saving that for my 30s).

Right now my reason for not being open to dating is different than it’s been before. I don’t think it’d be fair to involve anyone in whatever the fuck it is I have going on because I don’t really feel like a whole person capable of believing in love and fairytales and such. Basically, if there was an island for misfit lesbian toys, I’d be on it. And I’m fully aware this is how everyone feels at some point or the other but that doesn’t make it feel any less real. I just feel even dumber for being aware of my own dumbness. It’s a super healthy cycle I’ve developed, I do recommend it.

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This is all to say that Tinder is not something I’d ever use if left to my own devices unless it was for entertainment.

Another reason Tinder is a weird choice for me is because the people I end up liking are the ones I didn’t find attractive right off the bat. In fact, I would’ve told you that I had no interest in those people immediately after first meeting them — I would probably tell you that I never would be attracted to them, actually — only to end up crushing on them later, because I have no clue what the fuck I’m talking about and am terrible at predicting my own future. What a fun life. So to me, deciding who I like based solely on a picture is probably the exact opposite approach I should take to dating.

Tinder app Brittani profile

Now if you don’t know much about me, because why should you, I like to follow the rules. What constitutes a rule to me is seemingly arbitrary but when me and my secular moralism feel like something is WRONG, it makes me very uncomfortable to even consider it. For some reason, using Tinder in a way disingenuous to who I am as a person felt wrong. Which is to say, using it seriously at all felt icky and furthermore, “swiping right” to people I normally wouldn’t felt even ickier.

What Tinder does afford you is the ability to have a short term memory. Once you decide on a person, you don’t have to see them again, which means if it’s not a match and you never hear from them, chances are you won’t remember anything about them because the decision process happens so quickly. They’re gone and you’re on to the next and there’s no unanswered message to be disappointed about.

I’d watched people use Tinder before, so I knew what was up. I knew that sometimes dudes popped into your options even if you asked for only ladies. This led me to conclude that straight women must pop up as well. Now since there’s no way to tell from looking at one picture if they’re gay or not (except for when there is), I would suggest you keep from assuming that your feed is chock full of straight women. I assumed that the feed would show a straight woman as often as it did a guy which was about 1 of 6 times. Not a terribly accurate system.

I had my options set to women within 12 miles of me between the ages of 24 and 28. I used the app for about a week and based off of my estimation of 1 in 6 women being straight, 485 queer women popped into my feed. Of those 485, 16 of them were friends of mine so let’s remove them from the equation and put me at 469 eligible Tinder queers. I got 17 matches. Paltry numbers if I may say so myself.

I’m not the ideal Tinder user — I don’t have a lot of Facebook glamour shots or pictures of me doing fun interesting stuff that shows what a cool fun gal I am. Add to that I’m black. Add to that I’m on the more masculine side of things. On paper I shouldn’t do great on Tinder. But 17 of 469? I mean I’m no heartthrob but I do ALRIGHT. Well enough that getting 17 matches feels BAH-LEEK.

this kitten agrees
This kitten agrees

If I said yes to literally everyone for a week and only got 17 matches, then using it in a way that’s true to my real opinions seems pointless. If I was being as picky as I know I can be, one match a week seems optimistic. I’ve never used online dating sites before, so I’m not sure how many viable options a week you should expect, but I don’t think you’re shuffling through 469 people on a weekly basis? It seems like the well would soon run dry if you put up those kind of numbers every week. So I guess what I’m trying to say is that if you’re going to use Tinder, be a little more lenient than usual.

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Next: Grace

Grace’s Adventure

Grace (Forever Intern, Theatre Editor), 23, Columbus, OH

Ok here is the thing about Tinder: It is a nightmare hellscape in every conceivable way, generally for all the reasons everyone else already talked about but also for reasons I’m about to get into. Ugh. Mostly Tinder makes me feel like a shallow asshole because it puts the user in a no-win situation: Reject someone and try to live with yourself for turning down someone you know nothing about, or like someone and question if you really are the kind of person who can be attracted to someone exclusively for their looks. The whole exercise ends up feeling masturbatory in the worst way. I thought my solution to this problem was elegant: Like everyone who likes Autostraddle on Facebook, and reject (almost) everyone else. I still only got three matches total, which means you all are the worst.

I originally hesitated to participate in this roundtable, but despite the fact that I’m normally really good at saying no to Stef and Brittani, I caved during my latest trip from Ohio to LA while we were all eating dinner together. Here’s the other thing about Tinder: It’s a lot more fun in a place with more queer people. It just is. Because as shallow as I felt swiping through hundreds of people in LA, it felt a lot better than logging on at home in Ohio and being told there were no other girls who liked girls within 100 miles. It’s almost certainly a flaw in the app, but that doesn’t make it any less demoralizing to be repeatedly told you’d already turned down/been turned down by every hot chick within quick driving distance. Thanks for the ego boost, Tinder.

It’s also entirely possible that I’m just bitter. I only got three matches during the two weeks I kept Tinder on my phone: two in LA and one in Ohio. (Sidenote: Another awesome thing Tinder did was bug out, so I uninstalled and reinstalled it, and it lost one of my matches, THANKS TINDER, THAT WAS MY FUTURE WIFE). I didn’t talk to either of my LA matches, but not wanting this experiment to be a complete bust, I started chatting up my Ohio match. She ended up being super cool and friendly, and we got along fairly well, except she recognized me as Intern Grace Of Autostraddle and now I can never take myself seriously again, which is a bummer.

Making Grace Uncomfortable, a new workshop coming this spring to A-Camp

After a few days of chatting, my match asked if I wanted to get drinks, which I obviously did because I’m willing to go pretty far in the name of Tinder Science. Going into the gory details seems exploitative (even though she knew what was going on), but the gist of the date is that it was just all right. She’s a great person, but we probably aren’t going to get married any time soon, mostly because she refuses to watch High School Musical and also because she put two Third Eye Blind songs on a playlist for me. Additionally, one of the main topics of conversation was “omg Tinder is SUPER embarrassing, I’m SUPER embarrassed, I can’t believe we’re doing this,” so. Not a total waste of time because it was a good, fun experience that resulted in a great story and a new friend, but also I probably could’ve continued to live my life as a relatively happy human if Tinder had not facilitated that interaction. I am pretty proud of the mix CD I made for her, though.
mixcd

Bottom line: You’re better than this. I uninstalled it as soon as I found someone I went to high school with. I recommend not waiting that long. Save your heart for Ellen Page.


Stef: In the end, nobody found love in a hopeless place; we just established that it is, in fact, a hopeless place. Dattch, please come to Los Angeles soon! We need your help.

(Feature image via ShutterStock)