Research Finds Hating Gay People Makes You A Hate Group, People Actually Surprised By This

The Southern Poverty Law Center, creators of the infamous hate group list we wrote about a little bit ago, announced recently that they sorted through religious and antigay groups and found that some qualified as “hate groups,” specifically because they spread false and homophobic information and incited violence. This also goes hand-in-hand with my girlfight with Carolyn about the Westboro Baptist Church, in which I linked hate speech and violence.

According to the SPLC’s most recent issue of Intelligence Report, their magazine, gays are the number one targeted minority this hate season. I understand that this probably gives you feelings. The good news is, this kind of environment can be remedied with articulate arguments about gay rights, a balanced breakfast, and Autostraddle.com. It also means it is about time to add gay-hating groups to the SPLC list, duh.

Now, this news is probably not revolutionary or even surprising to any of you straddlers. But it turns out that the Family Research Council is upset that they’ve been classified as a “hate group” by SPLC, and they were so upset they made a PSA about it that you can find on Youtube. You can also find it by googling “hating gays doesn’t make us a hate group,”which explains a lot about the FRC already.  Regardless of how you feel about all of these things combined, here is the video:

Also, if it makes you feel better, the FRC’s video is also on a website called onkneesforjesus.blogspot.com.

So what is a “hate group,” anyway? And does hating gay people really mean you’re a “HATE GROUP?!” And who cares about gay people, anyway? Where are my keys I LOST MY PHONE.

These are just a few of the questions that remain after this little controversy. So just what does a group of well-funded and religiously motivated people have to do to be a “hate group,” anyway? Does hating gay people mean you’re a hate group, or some other nebulous category that combines being a group and hating things?

The SPLC has been counting hate groups for a while, and they found that this a record year for hate. (Apparently it’s the choice party theme this year instead of Mad Men or ugly sweaters, everyone is doing it.) But remember: this doesn’t necessarily mean that things are getting worse for us, it means we’re finally starting to scare the shit out of people like the Family Research Council. And that’s a really good sign.

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42 Comments

    • Honestly I take some pleasure in the fact that I rock a charcoal suit better than he ever will.

  1. “onkneesforjesus”

    a slight Freudian slip there, no?

    no, wait. i meant to say huge. huge slip there FRC.

  2. I like that the word Veneer is defined on the screen. You stay classy FRC. Stay classy.

    *hate*

  3. Wow, how surprising, men that rape little boys tend to like to do other men as well. And the men that rape little girls, who do you think they do at home??? Their lawfully wedded wives, my dear little haters.

    Come on! If they can prove that there is a significantly bigger proportion of gays in the sex offenders then in the general population, then, and only then I will agree to say that there is a problem.

    • Never mind the fact that the majority of sex offenders are straight white middle-aged men?

    • Actually I’m pretty sure that men who like to rape little boys DONT like sex with grown men also, because pedophilia is not the same as sexual orientation. Conflating the two causes so so many problems.

    • One in FOUR girls is sexually molested by age 16. 1/4th

      One in SIX boys is sexually molested by age 16. 1/6th

      One-FOURTH is 50% larger than one-SIXTH.

      The Haterosexuals are jumping on girls 50% more than they are jumping on boys. A lot of this is incest by family member, a proper study subject for FAMILY RESEARCH.

      The haterosexuals are one in four adult males jumping on one in four minor girls.

      One in four adult male voters entering the voting booth is a haterosexual whom has jumped a minor girl. The FRC caters to this voting bloc by diverting attention to the one-in-six adult males jumping on one-in-six minor boys, even when it is the same person jumping both boys and girls.

      Some substantial number of haterosexual minor jumpers don’t care if their victims are girls or boys, and some large segment of adult haterosexuals jumping on boys are married to women.

      This is also the proper subject for FAMILY RESEARCH.

      The Family Research Council (FRC) is getaway drivers creating smokescreens for haterosexuals rapists to get away with their crimes. There is NO MONEY SPENT ON RESEARCH — just propaganda smokescreens and lies giving cover to one-in-four girl rapists.

      It’s the lies that make them a hate group. They are protecting child molesters and diverting attention away from the adult men raping girls 50% more often than the rapists attacking boys. They are accomplices-after-the-fact, aiding and abetting child rapers to get away with it.

  4. Isabel-i know you mean well, but your post is ignorant. All legit studies show that men who rape boys overwhelmingly identify as straight. VAST majority of pedophiles are all straight men. Pedophilia, as everyone knows, is not classified as either hetero or homo-children are considered asexual so raping a child is all about power, not about sex.
    Very small percentage of pedophiles are gay.
    Just clearing that up!

    • Yeah, sorry, I was just basing myself on their statement, that most identify as gay/bi.
      The funny thing is that we were talking about rape and pedophilia in my psychology and the law class last week, and it is like the only type of sexual assault out there is man-on-woman. And nothing else and I feel like a super dumb, ignorant right now.

    • its cool, im sure he will be gone in about 5 years after having fun at a public restroom in rural idaho.

    • I agree, it reeks of homophobia and I have never heard it used in a positive context. Also, almost everyone using that phrase thinks my existence is a choice WHY WOULD I HAVE CHOSEN THIS.

      Not to sound self-hating but seriously I have gone through so much crap. At one point I wanted to die because I thought God hated me and would send me to hell anyways. Not okay, also not fun. I am so tired of my Southern Baptist, homophobic, sexist church that I am forced to go to every freakin’ Sunday. Honestly, Jesus came here to love people. How can you justify hating them?

      • I feel your pain honey, especially coming from a United Pentecostal background. I don’t get why they get so tied up about gays when the bible also says that you can’t wear clothes of mixed fabrics, and that when your menstruating that you have to sacrifice a dove to cleanse yourself.
        Picking and choosing…

    • as do I. actually, I had a conversation with a friend who lives in the north away from all the bible-thumping craziness in the lovely lovely south about my dislike of the word “homosexual.” she didn’t get it. I think it’s b/c every time I’ve ever heard the word “homosexual” my whole entire life has been out of the mouths of homophobic bigots who can barely spit the word out of their mouth fast enough.

      also, at one time, I was very confused while figuring out who I was and was terrified I was someone how going to become a pedophile…

      #hategroupsareaproblem

      • Also, the way they say it sends shivers down my spine. “Homo-SEX-ual.” Um yeah your obsession is showing, asshats.

        • Exactly. I got shivers reading that… Ever noticed how the way some people say “Praise JE-sus” is very similar to how they say “Homo-SEX-ual” in terms of emphasis on syllables. I don’t really know what this parallel means, but it’s there.

    • I personally just hate the “lifestyle” part of that phrase. What makes being ‘queer’ automatically a different sort of lifestyle? One’s identity (and by extension, life) should not be solely defined by one’s sexuality, amirite? Honestly. I think that term in itself enforces the negative stereotypes that we’re all out to brainwash innocent little children into a life of hedonism and debauchery, and like, sacrificing kittens to Satan. ‘Cuz that’s a lifestyle. Being gay doesn’t have to be.

  5. I’ve briefly met and tried to speak to Peter Spriggs of the FRC.

    You might as well try to get hitler to say he’s sorry he murdered half the Jews in the world.

    Spriggs never says it but he is a baptist minister – the church that was the bullwark of slavery and gave us the KKK and segregation.

    His hatred is so thick you can cut it with a knife only if the knife is very sharp. Almsot always people like him are secretly gay or, even worse “cured gays”

    I know a couple of those typses. One of them – I finally broke through his veneer of civility. . And he said “gays support the westboro baptist church”, those nutcases who hate America, Sweden, gays, c atholics, Jews etc.

    Another I’ve seen video of taken by someone I know He is almost violent in his Jesus Jesus Jesus screaming> I recognized this relatively young man as the drunken seat mate I had on a plane some years ago. He told me just enough that I finally figured out he was “Dylan” – the ultra blond somewhat chunky 2o’ish year old guy who stared in some movies done by the gay porn shop Miami Studios.

    Still on tap for this summer when I go to a gay pride near where Jason S his real name – lives and pickets gay people – to deliever to his wife _ he is now married – a copy of one of his videos.

    We need to out nut cases like him.

  6. BTW – sprigs is a graduate of Liberty Univ – that school that turns minds into haters in the name of God. Jerry Fallwells place in Lynchburg VA.

    And btw some years ago, Jerry boys assistant finally admitted the truth, left that hate house, and admitted he was gay.

    Perhaps what precipitated Jerry being found dead not too long after in his office.

    • I work in a textbook warehouse, and we do liberty’s books, and every time i ship them out, i want to put a note in them. i get so angry.

  7. Regarding the SPLC and “hate groups”:

    1. There is no legal definition for “hate group,” which is why even the FBI does not track “hate groups.”

    2. The SPLC uses the deliberately meaningless term “hate groups” in its fund-raising propaganda precisely because it allows them to denigrate their perceived opponents without accusing them of any actual crimes.

    3. The SPLC’s “Hate Map” is a fund-raising tool, nothing more. It provides no information whatsoever on the 1,002 alleged groups, in fact, the SPLC didn’t even bother to make up locations for 262 of the groups; that’s 26% of the total.

    http://wp.me/pCLYZ-8u

    Many of the alleged “groups” are listed twice in the same location.

    4. Since the SPLC is the sole arbiter of the meaningless “hate group” label, AND because SPLC fund-raising is directly tied to creating the illusion of an ever-increasing threat, it is in their direct financial interest to raise the numbers each year.

    Since 2003, the SPLC has taken in more than a third of a BILLION dollars in tax-free cash, and yet the number of “hate groups” always goes up.

    http://wp.me/pCLYZ-82

    5. The most ironic (read: “hypocritical”) thing about the Southern Poverty Law Center is that NOT ONE of its top ten, highest paid executives is a minority.

    http://wp.me/pCLYZ-7m

    In fact, according to the SPLC’s hometown newspaper, the Montgomery Advertiser, despite being located LITERALLY in the back yard of Dr. Martin Luther King’s home church, the SPLC has NEVER hired a person of color to a highly paid position of power in its entire 40 year history.

    Sadly, there is genuine anti-Gay hatred in the world, including the FRC and other morons, but citing SPLC fund-raising propaganda is not the best way to document it.

    • One in FOUR girls is sexually molested by age 16. 1/4th

      One in SIX boys is sexually molested by age 16. 1/6th

      One-FOURTH is 50% larger than one-SIXTH.

      The Haterosexuals are jumping on girls 50% more than they are jumping on boys. A lot of this is incest by family member, a proper study subject for FAMILY RESEARCH.

      The haterosexuals are one in four adult males jumping on one in four minor girls.

      One in four adult male voters entering the voting booth is a haterosexual whom has jumped a minor girl. The FRC caters to this voting bloc by diverting attention to the one-in-six adult males jumping on one-in-six minor boys, even when it is the same person jumping both boys and girls.

      Some substantial number of haterosexual minor jumpers don’t care if their victims are girls or boys, and some large segment of adult haterosexuals jumping on boys are married to women.

      This is also the proper subject for FAMILY RESEARCH.

      The Family Research Council (FRC) is getaway drivers creating smokescreens for haterosexuals rapists to get away with their crimes. There is NO MONEY SPENT ON RESEARCH — just propaganda smokescreens and lies giving cover to one-in-four girl rapists.

      It’s the lies that make them a hate group. They are protecting child molesters and diverting attention away from the adult men raping girls 50% more often than the rapists attacking boys. They are accomplices-after-the-fact, aiding and abetting child rapers to get away with it.

    • clarification, that onkneesforjesus site is mostly about sex. the domain and title speak for itself. i laughed so hard.

      also, poorly designed websites and conservatives go hand in hand.

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