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Why Taylor Swift Offends Little Monsters, Feminists, and Weirdos

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Not only are these songwriting choices almost mind-numbingly safe, but they also cover territory so familiar, it's almost a carbon-copy of someone else's song!

In 2006's "Girl Next Door," by Saving Jane, the protagonist yearns:

She is the prom queen I'm in the marching band
She is a cheerleader I'm sitting in the stands

This sounds familiar, right? Well, here's Taylor's version:

But she wears short skirts, I wear t-shirts
She's cheer captain and I'm on the bleachers

Interesting. Now check out the music video for "Girl Next Door":

Just to refresh, here's Swift's version:

With almost frame-by-frame precision, Taylor Swift's most popular music video is not only exactly like dozens of 80s and 90s teen flicks (which are basically remakes of 19th century romantic fiction & Shakespearean allegories), but it's also exactly like the music video for "Girl Next Door."

This happens a lot. For example; "A Place in this World" = one part "What It Feels Like For a Girl" (Madonna), one part "Just a Girl" (Gwen Stefani), one part "Not A Girl, Not Yet a Woman" (Britney Spears), and one part Donna Martin poem.

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Glasses don't Make You a Freak, Taylor Swift!

Swift's insistence on casting herself as the outcast or the proverbial "girl in the bleachers" while prettier girls date her crush objects is really silly. Her standard-issue prettiness conforms to a hegemonic Caucasian beauty standard and she's selling her fans short to claim otherwise; they'll likely find that the doors that opened for Swift will never open for them, even if they relate to her lyrics.

Perhaps the only legitimately irritating aspect of Taylor the Human is her continually presenting the experience of being teased in middle school for liking country music as a legit tragic impetus. Taylor Fucking Swift! Put on a Rachel Berry smile and get yer sh*t together, we were all bullied in middle school!

Even when Swift's songs cast her as the outcast, the freakiest she can get is putting on a pair of glasses and a t-shirt which has apparently been signed by all of her non-existent friends.

Taylor, look at Lady Gaga in that bathtub and tell me that you're the one in the bleachers:

Oh also, they did the glasses trick in "Girl Next Door" video too:

Here's the rub: actual freaks make really awesome music. It's edgy and complicated and it comes from a yearning, desperate, mixed-up place where pain and happiness have existed in equal parts for almost entire lifetimes. It's not safe or sexless — it's ugly, hopeful danger.
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High School Hop

Her lyrics are praised for authenticity, but to whom? Their flat, archaic view of high school is likely a result of Swift not attending too much high school.

In fact, Swift left regular school at 15 and was then home-schooled via Tennessee-based Christian home-schooling network Aaron Academy. The Academy's rules are based on The Bible's rules. The Academy teaches Creationism. Here's one of their favorite websites: Creation Science.

Aaron Academy parents & teachers are also encouraged to visit the "Family Research Council" for its "excellent articles advocating traditional family values." Today's topics include "The Sexualization of our Armed Forces" and "New Study Shows Abstinence Education is Most Effective."

This survival-of-the-fittest entitlement perhaps explains her lack of humility despite an otherwise charming personality.
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The Boy-Crazy Girl-Bashing Virgin: My Least Favorite Kind of Person

"Taylor wants to help adolescent girls everywhere feel better about themselves"

-Rolling Stone, The Very Pink, Very Perfect Life of Taylor Swift

Furthermore, Swift's lyrical message to teenage girls is clear: BOYS. That's it. Just boys. Crying over boys and feeling broken and/or completed by boys.

In fact, Swift loves boys at the exclusion of just about everything else, including other girls. Other girls are obstacles; undeserving enemies who steal Taylor's soulmates with their bewitching good looks and sexual availability. Unfortunately for these mute yet effortlessly hunky jungle-eyed boys, by choosing the "beautiful" girls over Taylor (who is, suspiciously... also beautiful...), they're missing out on Taylor's unique understanding of their heart/inner fireball/angelic rainshower/sweet glory of Jesus. "All those other girls are beautiful," Taylor pines, "But would they write a song for you?"

This is perhaps her music's most grating sin: the sex-shaming girl-bashing passed off as outsider insecurity. Boys are angels lit from within with cool hair, fast cars, and eyes that often resemble light sources (stars, sunbeams, etc). These boys never grow beyond metaphor into humanity. If they did, we might have to confront the very idea that Taylor Swift's entire career is designed to destroy: that teenagers want to have sex. And that wanting is confusing.

Certainly, she's among a handful of teenage pop stars who truly practices what she preaches. Taylor's behavior & imagery is just as wholesome as the apple pie her fans dream of baking for their own Jonas Brother-esque boyfriend.  She doesn't peddle paradoxical mixed messages about sex like the previous generation of teenaged pop stars.

I mean, she's pretty clear in "Fifteen" — really the only song where Taylor has an actual female friend — that "Abigail gave everything she had to a boy, who changed his mind, and we both cried."

I'll spare you the time of listening to the song and watching the video and give it to you straight: Abigail had sex with a boy, and later they broke up. That's right. No marriage. She gave him all she had.

That's right. All Abigail had was her hymen.

Songs like "Fifteen" dig up the ancient Puritan ideal that girls can only access power by confidently and heterosexually denying access to their pants.

But there's power in owning desire too, and even more power in owning that responsibly (especially when you're young). At her age, my friends and I were having safe sex, listening to Ani DiFranco & Destiny's Child & Lauryn Hill & The Magnetic Fields & George Michael and um *cough* Britney Spears and so far it seems none of us lost "all we had."

See, teenagers do think about sex and that's part of what makes adolescence so fucking wretched but also hopelessly authentic. Revisiting that paradox as an adult can make great art. It's not about slut shaming, exalting resistance, extending childhood or demonizing desire -- it's about powerfully wanting things that are REAL.

[ETA: I'm not saying all teenagers should have sex, or that being sexually active is better for kids than abstinence. That's ridiculous. I'm just saying the wanting is real. Acting on the wanting is a whole different story -- but Taylor is promoting denial of both, whereas I suggest if there is any denial at all, it should be in your actions, not in your desires.]

And I think that mature female-empowered desire has never been so present in pop music as it is right now, and many of those women were there on Sunday. [Sidenote: I could write a whole new essay about what Adam Lambert is bringing to the table right now for male sexuality, but I already have/this is already too long.]

The ironic thing is, I think pop music is past the stuff Taylor Swift is a reaction to. We're not really being subjected to the hypocritical virgin/madonna antics of Britney Spears, Lindsay Lohan, Christina Aguilera, Jessica Simpson, Paris Hilton, Mandy Moore, and their ilk peddling Lolita-Sex for sex’s sake but disguised in pastels.

Instead, awards shows this year featured gifted, evolving pop performers like Pink, Lady Gaga, Beyoncé, Rihanna and Janet Jackson; women who are more than hymens or fairy tales. Women for whom sex isn’t something you just throw into the crowd like candy — it’s something strong and eternal and tenacious and often quite inspiring.

Let's bring it back to the lady I think should've won: Lady Gaga is vicious hungry sex in hellfire. She's more theatrical than Broadway and every night she sings in romantic open fists. Lady Gaga opens her dress, extracts her gut, assembles it in shapes splashed in sinister glitter and then shatters her dangerous violent diamonds onto the piano and screams FIRE and it sounds like bad romance. She wants your ugly, she wants your disease, and she's everything Taylor Swift will never be. Punks don't win awards, they eat awards.

And so that’s what I hope for my hypothetical unborn children, whether it's from Gaga or another powerhouse female who owns it on stage: pop music that shuns tired Dawson Leary cliché in favor of your drama, disease, love, revenge, and (when you’re ready) your dangerous ambisexual kiss in the motherfucking sand.

814 responses to “Why Taylor Swift Offends Little Monsters, Feminists, and Weirdos”

  1. fit

    I really, seriously enjoyed this.

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    1. annaRgoods

      i’m probably the last one to read this article…and i really wanted to leave a comment, but unfortunately there are so many god damn comments already that my computer isn’t smart enough to load all of them, and the page stops right about half way through i think JentheJew’s 8th comment. so yea. finally i decided to just hit reply.

      and after ranting all that, i totally lost my opinion on the article in the first place. nerds

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    2. Laura

      As a Spaniard it’s really easy for me to just play certain music in the background without having to pay attention to the lyrics, we’re skilled like that lol. And Taylor Swift offers some catchy tunes -melody wise- that can be tolerated and even hummed. But she’s certainly not an artist worth getting into. At least from my perspective. And I really enjoyed this article, so much I felt like clapping.

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    3. ciderlover

      I think ‘Britney Spears’ psychotic vagina’ is possibly the best string of words ever put together! It sounds like the name of a progressive jazz album.

      Good article, Taylor Swift doesn’t really offend me, I just find her bland and unoriginal. But if people choose to buy her records well that’s their problem. I think most musicians(especially Gaga) wouldn’t care that Swift won awards over them, it’s all about creating the music you love, not winning awards.

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    4. becky

      agreed

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    5. Anna J

      I loved this article. Especially the part about girl having more to give than her hymen. You hit the nail on the head.

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    6. trobs

      Taylor Swift shouldn’t be shunned by feminists
      By cathyjwilson
      It often makes me grit my teeth when feminists get carried away with categorizing what is and is not feminist. The entire idea of categorizing and labeling people and shoving them into little boxes is sort of anti-feminist, especially when women start being shoved into “what’s good/not good for feminism.”

      I love Feministe, but reading Jill (who I usually agree with about pretty much everything) deride Taylor Swift for not being the best thing for feminism rubbed me the wrong way for a few reasons, including the fact that this kind of categorizing is a slippery slope.

      What I found most absurd about Jill’s reasoning is her discomfort with Taylor Swift playing the virgin too much, which Jill chalks up to a “problem with her branding.” Where exactly is the line then? Should Swift be more like Miley Cyrus, a 16-year-old girl who takes pictures of herself half-naked and does on-stage performances with a stripper pole? If being hypersexualized isn’t the answer, then that leaves an artist with the choice to be asexual, and really, haven’t women been portrayed as asexual for long enough?

      Instead of giving Taylor Swift the benefit of the doubt that maybe her own personal choice and personality is not to be overtly or overly sexual, Jill instead jumps to the conclusion that it’s a role she is playing to sell records. This type of judgment puts women into corners. It’s the kind of dilemma women are caught in all the time, because they are judged if they are virgins or act virgin-like, and they are judged if they are overly sexual. Women are supposed to claim their own sexuality in the eyes of feminism, but how are they supposed to claim it for themselves if feminists are judging them for choosing the wrong level of sexuality to portray? Women should not have to worry they’ll be heckled by men for dressing/acting too sexy, but heckled by feminists for not dressing/acting sexy enough.

      And, like Jill, I love Lady Gaga, but she isn’t exactly the holy grail for feminists considering she “worships” men, and I’m pretty sure she denies even being a feminist. And, I agree that Taylor Swift writes most, if not all, her songs about guys, but so does Lady Gaga, and most music artists — a majority of music is about love, that’s pretty standard. John Mayer is always writing about love, Ne-Yo is always writing about love, everyone is always writing about love.

      Personally, I think Paramore is good for feminism because Hayley Williams leads a rock band, and rock is a genre where really popular bands are 99.9% male, except maybe The Donnas, and few have just a female lead singer, except maybe No Doubt or Garbage.

      It’s your musical preference whether you want to hear someone sing about love over guitar, piano, studio-mixed beats, whatever — but it’s an insanely slippery slope to say it’s OK to write about wanting to ride on someone’s disco stick, but it’s not OK to write about unrequited high school love. I don’t think heartbreak or heterosexual love is the only thing women experience, but I think it’s one of the most influential aspects of songwriting, and it’s hard to decide where to draw the line if you’re trying to label anything as “anti-feminist” if it’s too devoted to men.

      This topic opens a whole can of worms about what exactly is good for feminism, which opens a can of worms about sexuality and how heterosexual feminists are supposed to be empowered, independent women while also attracted to men. (See: Naomi Wolf, “Radical Heterosexuality.”)

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      1. anon

        I still really enjoy your reply.

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    7. anon

      To the author:

      I think that a musical artist should be able to speak to whatever target audience he or she wishes to. If swift wants to target heterosexual “unpopular” boy-crazy teenage girls, I see no problem with it.

      Additionally, strange doesn’t equal good. Point: just because gaga (and her music) is weird and sexually charged doesn’t cause it to be good. I think the music itself, the rhythm, and how the words flow are a big part.

      Also, I see no reason why swift should not be allowed to act in a way that either completely opposes or furthers feminism. Such is her right. Although, expressing your dislike of such is also your right.

      As for why love is one of the commonly written about things: because love is one of our (humanity’s) shared experiences. Almost everyone has either been loved, loved someone else, or known people who have loved (or at least think they might know something about it). So, talking about love is something that people can connect with and that’s not a huge problem. I want to add that far fewer people are connected by teenage sex experiences or wild kinky sex with random strangers or one night stands, or lesbian escapades.

      As for the “giving all she had” part:
      When a athlete tells their coach, “I gave it all I had, but I still lost,” the athlete isn’t saying that the only important part of him is his sport skills.

      What the athlete is saying is that he wasn’t holding anything back, and that he was trying as hard as he could try. And if that isn’t enough, wouldn’t that make you sad?

      If you wanted to cook a certain dish and you gave it your best shot, and failed, wouldn’t that make you sad? (Not saying anything about your cooking ability, merely an example).

      So, I think what she means is:
      her friend tried her best, but it just wasn’t enough. And, whenever someone loses something dear to them (in this case, a relationship) I think its alright if they are sad about it. So, I don’t think that swift is saying that a girl’s virginity is all she has. She just meant that the relationship didn’t end because her friend wasn’t willing to do something.

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      1. Rebecca

        lol lesbian escapades.

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    8. Cara

      I really want to get this comment that I typed up into the forefront of this article so that if people found this, they would see how big the Taylor “talent” sham really is. So here goes.

      The only problem with her her “drive and determination” is that every artist who is struggling to make it has those qualities. It’s what keeps them tied to their instrument, playing out in bars, having a roomful of people watching you every night. That passion is unparalleled in musicians. The Nashvillians have been grumbling about Taylor Swift for quite a while now. On the whole it is, yes, that she can’t sing and can’t hold a damned candle to other country giants who speak their words through true sincerity to hard work and virtue. To country artists who know what LIFE is – good, bad, and ugly. They embrace and sing about all aspects, making them down home and relateable. NOT like Taylor who just blocks out the negative and sings about all things happy. This only brings out frustration at an ideal perfection that just doesn’t exist.

      Everyone kept their mouth shut all this time because she brought name and money to country music.

      But the truth is people may know Taylor better than she probably knows herself. To Taylor, this may seem “Mean” and shocking, but it’s been a long time coming. The quiet frustrations have been built up over time at the lack of talent and utmost fury at the lies of her upstart.

      The truth is, her father Scott Swift, is rich. He has connections to Merrill Lynch, and is a very wealthy stockbroker. Music insiders know the story inside and out. Most kids probably know that their teenage love songs that they write in their bedrooms will never see the light of day and is just self-therapy. They just don’t have the resources. But how would you feel if your dad said your dream will come true and I will do anything to make it happen? That I will move to Nashville for you and make you a STAR?

      Apparently, he would rope Taylor into performing in front of his friends, family members, anyone available when she was younger. She grew up in a MANSION in Wyomissing Hills, PA, and later moved by request to her parents to Nashville. There, the whole family was invested in looking for talent agents to represent them. This whole “played in bars, and look! Scott Borchetta found me!” is fabricated to a great extent. Taylor was with a talent agency that once represented Britney Spears (look up Dan Dymtrow) – she once wanted to go into acting or do pop music. Dan told her to keep the Myspace and “online teenage diaries” going. But soon Scott Borchetta contacted Taylor’s dad and said he would make Taylor into a country star, but he needed some funds for his start up label. Scott Swift obliged, and exchanged emails with Borchetta that said statements like “You asked me to break both his legs, wrap him in chains and throw him in the lake. I did.”. He paid for one half of the record deal, and Taylor Swift was the first artist signed to Big Machine Records. And that was the start of the Taylor Machine. About a couple million was spent on Taylor Swift (the album), and about 5 million has gone into pushing her as a star. The return is about 900 million in Taylor Swift (product – albums, tours, side promotion) revenue.

      If Taylor Swift’s family hadn’t had the money, that drive to get herself out there might have just died with performing at local fairs at a young age. (She never had the vocal talent to attract the bigwigs at Sony.) Taylor probably would have still come out as a good person, but music would have just been her OWN self therapy that only she would ever play back. But her parents, mainly her dad, pushed her and let his little daughter’s dream come true. A lot of people don’t have that opportunity, so when they see a cute girl who says she just happened to be discovered at a bar perchance, they run away with it.

      Don’t EVER run off with the idea that Taylor somehow, must have, been signed by talent alone, that fairytale just doesn’t work in real life. Maybe fairytales work in Taylor’s songs that appeal to the imagination, but never in real life. She is as mainstream product and as lucky as they get. She fooled you once under the cover of a guitar as talent, don’t get fooled again.

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      1. sara

        So you’re saying that Taylor Swift is different in her privileges from the majority of artists in the pop industry how…?

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        1. ama apprentice

          How? In the way that they DON’T have rich parents paying to start record companies for them to have a label to sing at. That’s how.

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    9. Luther

      Taylor Swift is seriously pathetic… Her celebrity is based off of her being the laughing stock of the music industry. She’s a joke these days.

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  2. Julia

    Riese I gotta hand it to you that was an absolutely amazing essay!

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    1. B$

      i agree times 5000000 million%

      this is brilliant! perfect! amazing!

      (if i could articulate my thoughts it would be like you were reading my mind!!)

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  3. JentheJew

    “one song that misinterprets Shakespeare and The Scarlet Letter so criminally I’m certain she’s never read either.”

    THANK YOU. I have always said that if I met her in a dark alley, I was going to bash her in the skull with both.

    Also, for all she talks about being an outsider, she looks suspiciously like all the girls that tripped awkward, big-nosed, bespectacled me as I walked down the hall. GIRL YOU ARE NOT PLAIN AND YOU KNOW IT. It’s just like she’s all that or some shit, glasses don’t make you ugly.

    Taylor Swift surprised the hell out of me when I found out how old she was. I thought she was 16. No, really, because her music is eternally trapped in that girl-child world before we realize that we don’t need anyone to MANSPLAIN to us what we want, before we have our own desires instead of the world’s. My Dad’s BFF has a daughter who is 8, and even SHE recognizes how incredibly stupid Tay Swizz is and prefers Joan Baez, Kate Bush, and Lady Gaga.

    Father Jew (No really Jenny, bringing up your father again? Go on.) and I were discussing Lady Gaga the other day, and he compared her to people like Freddy Mercury. Just because the public doesn’t know what to do with you doesn’t mean you don’t deserve the award!!

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    1. bandgeek

      I’d say miley cyrus looks older than taylor swift. she certainly acts that way. Well yes, i’m referring to the way she dresses and questionable pole dancing but taylor swift does look and sound like she’s trapped in high school, forever stuck there daydreaming about boys. GROW UP TAYLOR!

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      1. Callamander

        And like was said earlier…taylor supposedly didn’t even go to highschool, was homeschooled after 15yrs old! So that means if she is writing about things that happened to her in school, then she was in middle school, getting dumped all the time! So she isn’t all that innocent! Some say she lost her virginity at “15″ which is when she went to homeschooled.And it has been one guy after another, recently her fling with John Mayer! did she honestly think he would be interested in her after all the beautiful women he goes out with? She sounds terrible when she sings live without the benefit of auto-tune..listen to her when she sang with Stevie Nicks!Stevie was looking at her like WTF! What is that noise coming out of your mouth!!!She wins the awards that are fan voted where all the preteens vote and vote which is fine but it takes away awards from real singers who deserve them,Last year was her year, this years awards will be a different story.She isn’t nominated near as many times and the ones she does, she most likely win.

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        1. Callamander

          opps I meant the ones she is nominated for she most likely won’t win..

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    2. Greg

      JentheJew said: “Also, for all she talks about being an outsider, she looks suspiciously like all the girls that tripped awkward, big-nosed, bespectacled me as I walked down the hall. GIRL YOU ARE NOT PLAIN AND YOU KNOW IT. It’s just like she’s all that or some shit, glasses don’t make you ugly.”

      Better check out Taylor Swift’s middle school yearbook photo:

      http://glambamm.com/249/taylor-swift-in-middle-school/

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    3. Catarinaaa

      Everyone feels like an outsider in high school! Not just pseudo-intellectual-lesbian-femminists like yourself and pretty much everyone commenting on this.

      Just because you all are, according yourselves, cursed with an big nose and a less-than-attractive face, didn’t make you anymore of a social outcast in high school than someone who has been blessed with good looks.

      Being a teenager is tough on everyone, regardless of how ‘pretty’ they look.

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      1. Athena

        Well, Catarinaaa, everyone feels like an outsider even when they’re not. But some of us are TRULY on the outside during high school for whatever reason. Obviously, YOU were not one of these outsiders since you’ve fallen on that same old bullshit – “tough on everyone.” I hate hearing that from anyone; it says “your feelings don’t merit my notice, much less my concern.”

        Hate to tell ya, honey, but it’s tougher for some than others. And those ‘some’ are the bullied ones who speed walk with their heads down hoping to escape notice; the mercilessly teased because their hair is curly red or because they’re smarter than the bully or because they have a sibling of a different race and it’s “wierd”; the friendless ones who eat lunch alone in the corner day after day. We’ve already established that adolescence is a very emotional time, and it IS harder for these true outsiders because they don’t even have someone to talk to about what they’re feeling.

        Now, before you post something stupid, please not that I did NOT say that it’s easy for anyone. It’s not. But I’m sick of people saying it’s just as difficult on a pretty blonde girl whose Daddy bought her a brand new car, sends her to the salon every week, pays for new clothes every month and hands over his credit card as it is on a plain-looking brunette driving a beater she saved for since she was twelve wearing clothes from Goodwill and wishing she owned a blowdrier.

        The blonde bitch doesn’t even know what tough is yet, but you think I should have sympathy for her because “it’s tough on everyone?” I don’t think so. Looks and brains aren’t equally distributed; hardships and “tough” situations aren’t either.

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        1. Catarinaaa

          Geez. I was bullied in high school, so I’d know. I’m just saying that, no matter who you are, high school is tough. Everyone complains about how bad high school was.

          I wasn’t asking you (or anyone else) to sympathize with her because most people have better things to do.

          No need to hate on someone else who claims to have suffered as well just because she’s pretty. xD That’s basically the point I was trying to make.

          And I doubt she was THAT rich.

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        2. Devin

          Wow, please take blonde out of your list of superficial traits. I have been blonde from birth, and I know as a fact it did not in itself make me one friend in high school. My hair didn’t buy my car (my shitty job did), I shopped at Goodwill (and was well dressed, still shop there), and have never been to a salon (not really my style anyway).
          Truth be told, I hated my hair. It was frizzy and wavy. I longed for the silky brown and red manageable manes my sisters had. THEY were the ones with the attention. THEY were the attractive ones. And you know what? They got the attention despite their second hand clothing and clunking automobiles because they let their infectious personalities shine through.
          I don’t understand the blonde hate. Why do people think we have it easy? We’re joked at, considered less intelligent. Based on a physical trait? That’s discrimination. I guess I could just die my hair/(bleach my dark skin/stay in the closet/) right? No! Because I say it once and for all- BLONDE IS BEAUTIFUL, DAMN IT! Just like any other physical trait, it is complex and mysterious. Mostly though, it is inconsequential. It doesn’t matter. So what. Devin=Devin, through and through. Oh by the way Devin was born with blonde hair. So what?

          To quote the goddess “I am not my hair. I am not this skin. I am not your expectations”
          India Arie

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          1. TheBee

            I don’t think she was implying blonde is automatically superficial. (Except maybe if she went to an All Girls School like me whee literally everyone had t dye their hair blond or at least had streaks (for fuck’s sake even I had bleached tips) or at the very minimum act like they did lol)

            Rather blonde hair is a trait that is supposed to be universally desirable, like blue eyes and caucasian traits, as vehiculed by the media. Even by many people’s personal, conscious standards who do not necessarily deify these, we are still affected by it on some subcoscious level.

            Do not forget that blond is a trait like blue eyes that propagated with sexual selecetion. It offers no direct evolutionary advantage (except in terms of sexual competition) and in the case of blue eyes may even offer disadvantages. Of course just because you are blond will not automatically make you beautiful or successful, a lot of it depends on what you are like as a person as well as your other traits, but it is generally a “bonus” or a “plus” :)

            Studies have shown several things in linking blond hair with attractiveness and/or success. Sadly it has also linked it with prevailing stereotypes about blonds.

            An again there’s also the relativeness of the term “blond” depednig on where you are in the world. I for example am rather picky as to what is light enough, naturally (I insist) to qualify as blond. My lover for example calls herself a blond. She is not blond in y eyes, she is a light brunette and at the peak of the summer a sandy blond with highlights but not a blond proper. Of course where she grew up, in Southern Romania, people have pretty dark brown to black hair on average. In contrast she is light-haired and in some cultures that equals blond. I on the other hand have standards for blondness shaped by a much more Northern European derived society. You wil not be considere blond unless your hair is pure gold or platinum and makes me want to say as countless human beings (well the heterosexual cavemen who are responsible for the propagation of the trait) have before me “OH, gold hair of wheat and Sun, burnt grass and belgian tobacco, will you not allow me to walk yu home?”

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      2. Lilly

        Not just pseudo-intellectual-lesbian-femminists

        That line alone tells everyone everything about you that is needed to know.

        Highschool is “tough” for most people yeah, and maybe you were even bullied a little.

        And yet, you still had it easy. You prove it with your words. That is, unless you were bullied for always spouting idiotic nonsense. In which case you kinda got what you deserved.

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        1. Catarinaaa

          Wow. Y’all are really bitter.

          So you were bullied in high school. Get over yourself, now you have a shitty job and a relationship with someone you can’t marry. :P

          And how would you know that I had it easy? ahahah.
          How can you even tell me that I had it easy based on a few comments I left on what seems to be a lesbian blog a couple of weeks ago?

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          1. lloyd

            what crawled up your ass and died? the fuck is your problem? and why is lesbian some kind of an insult to you?

            go fuck yourself, you cunt.

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  4. sketch

    You are the biggest idiot of a writer that I have ever read and I can’t beleive there is a freedom of the press that lets you write this crap. So what if Taylor is the girl next door. Do you not think there are other girls out there in this world that are like her. I understand that Gaga is a great creative performer but Taylor Swift is a creative in her own way. I don’t think she would have sold millions of albums (way more than Beyonce and Gaga’s grammy nominated albums) if people in the world did not like her. There are a lot of girls who still beleive in fairytales and love her music. So take your ugly disease ra ra blah blah whatever and shut up!!
    P.S. You are still an idiot and will always be one!

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    1. Margo

      Freedom of the press is idiotic isn’t it sketch? Not everyone should be entitled to impart their opinions without interference should they?

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    2. Emily

      I don’t know you but I hate you and you can go fuck yourself.

      your avatar is fat

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      1. Vadgetastic Voyage

        Your avatar is fat.

        Oh man i actually woke up my girlfriend cuz I laughed so hard.

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        1. Emily

          i have to admit, i’m just quoting riese from another post.

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      2. honeybrown1976

        You just made me laugh so fucking hard!! I love you.

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    3. JentheJew

      lot of girls who still beleive in fairytales

      We call them ‘kindergartners’

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      1. nine

        i laughed out loud.

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        1. kimbit

          ditto.

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      2. honeybrown1976

        hahaha loves it!

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      3. Catarinaaa

        Lot of girls who couldn’t get a boyfriend …

        We call them lesbians. :P

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    4. Grace Chu

      “You are the biggest idiot of a writer that I have ever read and I can’t beleive there is a freedom of the press that lets you write this crap.”

      You just made me LOL. But not with you, sadly.

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    5. Lilo's cooch

      sketch = Taylor Swift’s mother cruising lesbian sites. Btw, sketch, the writers at AE and Shewired are much worse.

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      1. Vida ("vee-dah")

        “sketch= Taylor Swift’s mother cruising lesbian sites” …. no shit!

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      2. Lola

        I haven’t seen you in a while, Lilo’s cooch! Staying out of the press these days, eh?

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        1. kimbit

          HAH!

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    6. Ziggy Hreins

      You are so way out of your league kid.

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    7. Paper

      Hi! Are you the same Sketch who was in the second season of Skins? The girl who stalks the gay dancer before seducing his best friend (the guy from Slumdog) and dying his hair blond?

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      1. speculoos

        Ugh, no, that Sketch did nasty things in Maxxie’s bedroom!

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    8. Marly

      Wonder if you’re the same pro-Stalinist on another comm who keeps advocating that too much freedom is a bad bad thing for artists. Well, at least I HOPE you’re the same person because I’d hate to think there are more of you out there advocating repression.

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    9. christine

      This was an absolutely SUBLIME read. Amazing, introspective and fucking intelligent as all hell.
      And I feel pity for all the people posting pro rainbow/pony/fairy tale comments. They are obviously stunted. Being proud of holding ever so tightly to unattainable and ultra saccharine ideals is sad.

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      1. Catarinaaa

        ” fucking intelligent as all hell ”

        Why did she use big words that you pretended to understand? :P

        LOOOL. Come on, fairy tales aren’t that bad.

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        1. YoungMachete

          “LOOOL” – nuff said.

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    10. sydney prescott

      Thank you sketch. This woman is an idiot. Although I have to disagree with you on one point, she’s not a writer. Leave it to feminists not to do their homework. Beyonce reinforces sexual stereotypes that “feminists” tend to attack. Put a ring on that finger? What about, put some pants on those legs? Taylor has busted her ass in the music industry and is wholesome, good clean fun. Beyonce? She dresses like a prostitute and make teenage girls feel bad about themselves. As if an artist who oppresses her own people deserves an award. FYI, this is a blog, not a real venue to proliferation poorly argued, lesbian rants. What next? Going to blame Barbie for your eating disorder?

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      1. angela

        Re: Sydney

        I’m sorry but how does Beyonce make girls feel bad about themselves? Put some pants on? Are you implying that wearing a leotard makes girls feel bad about themselves? The majority of Beyonce’s music are women anthems.

        Taylor busted her ass in the music industry? How so? You know what, I’m not going to touch that one, but I’m willing to bet Beyonce work ethic is far superior than Swift ever has done, as well as her other peers.

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    11. AB

      Thank you, Sketch and sydney prescott. It’s not a crime to be good role model. Taylor Swift writes about boys and love because it’s what she’s experiencing right now. Say all you want about her, but like it or not she still has millions of fans.
      Yes, it’s a horrible thing to enforce the message of abstinence, isn’t it? That makes perfect sense.
      Please, spare us and try to grow some brains before you write an article like this.

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  5. DemiArianna

    Riese, I love you, I do. Because you make stances I can completely agree with, and then to reinforce them you go do your research. You can say you listened to her music and really looked into it all. Then you come back and present it to us in the world-class way only you can.

    I want to vomit on Taylor Swift, even more so after reading this.

    Honestly, I stopped liking her the moment she hopped in that T-Pain video prancing around like a little white Sambo. I have a hard enough time dealing with the way most rappers portray themselves these days, and the whole baggy jeans, gold-fronts image. I do NOT need her making that shit look cool to her tween demographic. That honestly leads to little suburban girls thinking they can make a mockery of inner-city stereotyped black kids. I can’t deal.

    The bitch was HOME SCHOOLED since 15?!
    I’m starting to believe none of her inspiration comes from truth.

    Oh yeah, we all need boys to complete us, lest not forget.

    “That’s right. All Abigail had was her hymen.”
    Ha!

    She must be a republican, I’m convinced.

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    1. Lola

      I was homoschooled (that typo-ed itself, no lie) since 13, and I’m pretty sure that the creepy Christian-owned company that once hired me thought that homeschooling = brainwashed wholesome goodness. Sorry to disappoint — thanks for the ca$h suckaz!

      In conclusion, Taylor Swift definitely had ample opportunity to be way cooler.

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      1. wasteunit

        The “hey, your Freudian slip is showing” award goes to Lola.

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    2. ashleigh

      I know this comment is really late so it will probably never be read, but just to clarify a few things…

      Taylor Swift was homeschooled for the last two years of high school. so from 17-18 I guess? I live in Australia so I don’t really know much about the American school system, but I know she attended freshman and sophomore year at school and then because she was on the road so much it was more practical to continue with homeschooling.

      And no, she’s apparently not a Republican. I would link the article to you if I could remember where it came from, but I read that she admitted that she voted for Obama in the last election.

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      1. Rose

        But she performed at the Republican National Convention!

        And last I read she wasn’t sharing who got her vote.

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  6. Sarah

    wow. at first this was entertaining. then it got pathetic. you certainly spent a WHOLE lot of time thinking, pondering, and writing about someone who doesn’t mean much to you.

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    1. DemiArianna

      *sigh*
      That’s what good journalism is about, Riese could have said ‘I just plain don’t like her’ without valid reason, but before she went on to continue passing judgement with little info she did her research. Her job, essentially, is to delve deep and report her findings and observations on topics that are hot to her demographic. And a lot of us are still pissed/perplexed/in shock about this, period.

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    2. wasteunit

      I agree. Well informed opinions are teh dumb. I would appreciate it if your next article was a little less thought out and brilliant.

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    3. Annie

      I completely agree Sarah.

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  7. Emily

    Alex — as usual, fucking brilliant infographic.

    Riese — I’m trying to comment on this but it’s turning out to be a waste of time because I can’t organize my thoughts maybe I should create an action step

    If I turn out to be half the writer you are, I’ll be happy.

    RIESE DANGER BERNARDO 2012 you have my symbolic vote from Canada.

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    1. nine

      I LOVE THE INFOGRAPHIC
      just sayin

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    2. a;ex

      Thank you, you guys!

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  8. redhighheels

    Wow are you in high school or something because it sounds that way from your article. You compare lyrics. Um, who does that? If everyone wrote and sang songs like you describe I would not listen to music at all. I like Taylor Swift and I like listening to someone who sings about pinning for the boy and being the loser in highschool. I think Hollywood has made money off of the same idea. Taylor will not be Gaga or Beyonce. Thank goodness. She has her own individual talent and appeals to a very wide audience. She also sells a lot of albums if you didn’t know that already. Go Taylor!!

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    1. DemiArianna

      I don’t know if you know this, but album sales have no correlation to talent. If anything, it only shows the PR agent is talented. How could Riese criticize a music artist without looking at the lyrics? THAT sounds crazy.

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      1. Roceli

        Seriously, why does everyone doubt Taylor Swift’s talent?

        Yes, she may have evoked a certain sentiment of pity after the VMAs, but there is NO WAY she could’ve won all those grammys without having that much talent.

        It is obvious that “album sales have no correlation to talent”, but the grammys are (I don’t know if you know this) the most important awards show in music. I doubt they hand out pity prizes.

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    2. JentheJew

      You compare lyrics. Um, who does that?

      I have several books on musical movements that say: professional authors/writers.

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    3. wasteunit

      “Taylor will not be Gaga or Beyonce. Thank goodness.”

      Gasp! Might you have compared Taylor Swift’s lyrics to those of Gaga and Beyonce to make this judgement?! For shame! Um, who does that?

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    4. Callamander

      but the point is…she didn’t go to highschool! Does anyone know why she dropped out and was homeschooled? I think Abagail in 15 is Taylor…

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      1. ashleigh

        Taylor Swift was homeschooled because her debut album dropped in 2006, she was constantly on the road opening up for other artists and doing radio tours, and it just wasn’t practical for her to attend high school anymore. She didn’t have time for it anymore. There is no other reason.

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  9. Ashlee

    Her fans will grow up more quickly than she ever will.

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    1. Carmen

      Awesome comment.

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  10. jane

    I love Taylor Swift. Thank goodness there is someone in the music world who is some crazy booty shaking freak!! GO Taylor. Go all the girls out there who love fairytales and are the girl next door.

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    1. MarthaLikesOwls?

      The image of Taylor Swift doing some crazy booty shakin is now eternally burned into my mind.

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    2. Meg

      Hi, I’m the girl next door.
      I grew up poor with an alcoholic father and didn’t care about boys for a long time, all I cared about was writing was getting out of my little town. The girl who lived next door to me had two good parents who weren’t on drugs or booze and who stayed together. She was a little boy-crazy and grade-deficient, but went to college on a swimming scholarship.

      What am I saying?

      That I’m sick of this “girl next door” BS. There is more variety than that, and it’s insulting to say that just because someone is blond, white, and affluent, hey, they’re just like you or the girl that lives next door.
      When I was stuck in my little town, a boy wasn’t my ticket out, he was a cement block tied to my leg.
      This is just one of the many problems with Talor Swift’s “love is everything, let’s get married message.” Just. One.

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  11. teapot

    Taylor Swift forever!! Long live horses and sunsets!! I love her music and I am proud to be a fan. Haters just need to shut up!

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    1. Emily

      I think if you read the article you would know that Riese doesn’t hate Taylor Swift. Here, I’ll help you out: in the second paragraph on the first page it says:

      For starters, no one has been “hating on Taylor” — as I understand it, they’ve been hating on Taylor Swift the Product and, as of late, her accumulation of Important Awards. See, there’s nothing to hate about Taylor Swift the human. She’s nice & honest, she’s pumped much-needed cash into the music industry, she looks cute in glasses and she’s friends with Our Heroine Ellen DeGeneres.

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    2. a;ex

      I mean obvs this person who posted 4 comments under different names didn’t read the article. Although I can def get behind “long live horses and sunsets” — I agree!

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    3. Morgan

      long live horses and sunsets and people whose existance and idiocy alone make me feel like a genius.

      but mostly, long live riese.

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      1. Morgan

        and also alex for the infographic.

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  12. Margo

    is this the same gd person commenting over and over again?

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  13. whiteout

    Ok so Taylor Swift won. Beyonce won. Gaga won. Woo hoo!! Great. Awesome. Fabulous. Can we just move on. I like Taylor Swift and I am so ticked that this has happened. I liked all the artist that were nominated. Yes Taylor had an off night but that doens’t mean she should not have won. It was album not performance that won. She had the best year out of any artist nominated. No one could touch her record sells. Her concerts sell out and in minutes and in case you have see on youtube, a lot of other artist have covered her music. Think positive, Gaga will always have 2011.

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    1. Rachel

      I’m a little puzzled how you can list all of these qualities about Taylor and ignore that they all apply to Gaga as well. Gaga is more original, more courageous, and more talented. Simple as that.

      And her album was full of number one hits, in case you missed it.

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    2. Lola

      NO I refuse to move on!

      I remember when fucking Steely Dan beat out Radiohead for best album. OBVIOUSLY NOT BASED ON RECORD SALES! But whatevs, at least Steely Dan are reputable old dudes.

      Kid A rocks! Am I 10 years ago?

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  14. Liz

    I can say this essay is possibly one of the greatest things ive read. Not only was it thought provoking, deep and funny, it represents completely what ive come to love about this site. i go to high school, and everyday witness the atrocity of girls only seeing worth in themselves because of how the boys and men react to them. Its a struggle to watch my friends, the people i see value in, diminish themselves by doing so. As a young out gay woman living in a very republican community, where being Jewish is considered a minority, i have enough problems feeling proud of myself and who i am. This glorification of everything that wishes to suppress and hold me back hurts in a place so deep, i never knew it was there before. i understand it is clearly NOT taylor’s fault and i wish her the best of luck, but as said above glasses dont make you feel like a freak or an outcast.

    so thank you for writing this, and not making me feel so alone out here.
    Much Love

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    1. JentheJew

      Queer Jews represent! *high five*

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  15. uberVU - social comments

    Social comments and analytics for this post…

    This post was mentioned on Twitter by LittleMousling: Heck, just read the whole article: “Why Taylor Swift offends Gaga fans, feminists, and weirdos.” http://bit.ly/dgguOF

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  16. Crystal

    Riese this piece is amazing – you make a lot of brilliant points here that I’ve never considered. And also, I laughed my ass off.

    I purchased Taylor’s album after the Grammys to see what the fuss was all about and although it didn’t deserve to win, I think it’s a good album. But then you know I have a huge soft spot for tween pop stars, I don’t think I’ll ever stop defending them and their genre.

    I’m glad the distinction was made between Taylor the Product and Taylor the Person. Sometimes I feel like people are picking on Taylor the Person and my heart aches a little.

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    1. Aucoeur

      Maybe it’s my sleepy pills kicking in but I liked this comment and think it deserves a hug! :)

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    2. Carmen

      “I’m glad the distinction was made between Taylor the Product and Taylor the Person. Sometimes I feel like people are picking on Taylor the Person and my heart aches a little.”
      Agreed.

      Taylor Swift’s songs are super contagious but so are STDs. Like, you enjoyed having unprotected sex, A LOT, but then, afterwards, you realize you now have syphilis.

      What I obviously mean is that for the young, unprotected minds, her songs are awesome but they don’t realize that they’re also filled with so many retrograde and infectious ideas (STDs). So next time you have sex with an unknown song, consider using dental dams. Or something like that.

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      1. Shanay

        bwahahahahaha!

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      2. meg

        best.comment.ever. (yea this is like a million months late)

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  17. CT

    Fuck yeah, I’m with you Riese. My thoughts exactly.

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  18. vanyogan

    Your interpretation of Swift is exponentially more shallow and uninformed of her as you claim she is of the world.

    If you did your research, you would know that she voted for Obama. If you followed Grammys, you would know they simply do not vote for conservatives, and certainly NOT conservative country singers. Mainly because most voters are not. So much for politics.

    You act as if Swift has sat on her butt and had everything handed to her. She works hard and has since she picked up a guitar at age eleven.

    The only thing you got right was what she writes about. Such genius, she repeats it about twice a day, somewhere.

    The part you miss is that teens have never had anyone say it the way she does. They like it. It someone had thought of it they would have done it already.

    Grammy! Yep…

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    1. nine

      i think most people who come up with an idea to write songs like that get told to shut the fuck up.

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  19. nine

    FOR THE RECORD: i love taylor swift. but in like the way that i enjoy eating ice cream even though i’m vegan and it makes me stomach hurt.

    i want to like, love, reblog, and retweet this article.

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  20. TSwizzle

    But….but….but I learned all the words to ‘Love Story’ so I could serenade you all with it. Did I toil in vain? SAY IT ISN’T SO!!!!!

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    1. nine

      i don’t know about Love Story….but if someone serenaded me with You Belong With Me i would probably do them on the spot.

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      1. Miss Kitty Fantastico

        Agreed, but it would have to be more like this version and less like Taylor’s version…

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        1. Lola

          Miss Kitty Fantastico! I thought Dawn killed you by accident!

          (I am so loving all the usernames tonight)

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          1. Miss Kitty Fantastico

            I’ve been hiding from Dawn since the crossbow incident. Please send tuna.

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            1. fiona grapple

              i love you guys.

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          2. CourtneyinCanada

            BEST USER NAME EVER!

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    2. JentheJew

      I want a version of Love Story that reflects what really happens in the story:

      Will you die with me, Juliet/You’ll never have to be alone/I love you and I stabbed Paris you should know/I’ll die first, then stab yourself through that dress/Oh,It’s a love story, baby just say yes.

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  21. sam

    “Punks don’t win awards, they eat awards.”
    Great article, Riese!

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  22. wasteunit

    Riese, legendary article per usual. Thank you!

    AND THAT INFOGRAPHIC MADE ME REALIZE THAT TWILIGHT AND TAYLOR SWIFT ARE THE SAME THING OMG.

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  23. Veron

    Eh. I’m not a Swift fan at all, but some of us don’t think Gaga is OMGWTFBBQAMAZINGGGG. Sorry, but I fail to see any significance in lyrics like “I wanna take a ride on your disco stick,” and I can’t stand her music. This article looks like it was written by a Glambert.

    Man, I miss Veruca Salt.

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    1. Veron

      Outside of my Gaga meh, though, I do agree with some points you raised. Particularly that Madonna/Whore picture.

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    2. Lola

      can’t fight the seether!

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  24. brown bear

    I really don’t think we’re going to have to worry about Taylor Swift for a terribly long time. I wish her all the best. But I don’t think it’s going to be easy for her to mature as a singer/songwriter…I mean, if you’re still singing about crying and boys and fairytales when you’re 30, it’s just kind of creepy.

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  25. Rachel

    A+ I have to admit, whenever I hear someone talk about You Belong With Me, I think of Saving Jane. I’ve never heard anyone articulate the blatant similarities before, so this was much appreciated!

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  26. Lola

    Thankfully, when going about my day, never once do I stop and think “… Tim McGraw?” and thus, think of Taylor.

    ALSO in that song where she decides she DOESN’T LIKE some guy, she uses ‘gay’ pejoratively. And probably doesn’t know what ‘pejoratively’ means. Or what ‘gay’ means. That home school doesn’t do sex-ed.

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    1. Renee

      I’m not sure you can assume Taylor Swift doesn’t know what pejoratively means… Also, that lyric has been changed from “I’ll tell mine that you’re gay” to “You won’t mind if I say” in newer versions of the song. Maybe Taylor rethought how the lyric came across because I do remember seeing an interview where she was asked about it. She claimed she didn’t mean it as a put-down to gays, but rather as a lie you’d tell people so they wouldn’t be interested in dating the guy (the guy tells his guy friends she’s obsessive so they won’t want to date her and she tells her girl friends he’s gay so they won’t even think of him as a possible date). Maybe she was being insincere, but nonetheless, the lyric has been changed.

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      1. Lola

        Oh exactly! She really didn’t know what ‘gay’ means.

        I’m mostly joking. Taylor may very well possess an astounding vocabulary she simply chooses not to employ when songwriting.

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    2. Catarinaaa

      Katy Perry wrote a song called “Ur So Gay”. :P

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  27. Corey

    I have to admit the graphics are what made me read this article. The title kind of feeds into the whole Taylorgate going on right now. As previous people have mentioned I am glad the Taylor image is separated from Taylor the person.

    I work in music so this issue really hit home with me. Though I did find your piece interesting, you can also see that um maybe you are a huge Gaga fan. Personally I love Taylor Swift and not just because she finally became legal but because of what she represents. Not the feminist devil but the young, simple girl that most not all woman used to be. She has this ethereal angelic look that parents love and teenage girls obsessed with romance clamor too. She is the “image” people want to be. The girl with everything, because really as a teenager who the hell wants to be the outsider teenager years are hard enough as it is.

    For every point you raised about Taylor someone who dislikes Gaga could argue the same thing. She came from a wealthy family, copies artists who came before her, and writes songs which lack the shall we say songwriting skills an artist at her level should have. It all comes down to how the artists are packaged and their image sold and shoved down the public’s throat.

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    1. a;ex

      “She is the “image” people want to be.”
      I don’t think that’s a good thing honestly.

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  28. laura

    i want to dp alex’s infographic (since it’s not an actual human and i want to protect the sanctity of marriage and all.)

    yay riese! i’m totally feeling this article. and i’m with crystal, i’m glad you pointed out the difference between person taylor and product taylor. because human taylor probably has felt the things she sings about and we shouldn’t take that away just because product taylor sucks in a major way.

    w/r/t/ innocence, hymens, boys etc. i hate this shit. like for real. how are girls supposed to figure anything out if all they hear is ‘sex. sex sex sex. sex is great. just not now. and also you’ll need boys if you want that and boy’s are just to hard to figure out and will hurt you. and so will sex’? people say society is too sex-saturated but maybe we should be looking at how we respond to kids’ exposure to sex instead of tryig to get all puritannical all over everyone’s asses. is this were the case, maybe i would’ve figured out i was gay earlier/on time.

    maybe i eat a snack or something instead of commenting directing after reading my sociology of pop culture articles.

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  29. Texmez

    I don’t really have much left to add that hasn’t already been said, except that I did so much agreeing during this article that I’m amazed my head didn’t fall off.
    That and.. it’s really wonderful that there are places like Autostraddle where I can visit and feel challenged and empowered, especially in a world that is mostly telling me to be quiet and fit the mould. I always appreciate it, and it always makes my day better, to know that other women notice the very anti-feminist messages we are exposed to in such a widespread and mainstream way.

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    1. Catarinaaa

      “anti-feminist messages” – Well, unless you’re watching Fox News, the media isn’t exactly that unfair.

      Sure, some commercials directed towards men and a few insecure women who think that they can look exactly like the models, could be considered degrading. But there are a LOT of news articles about ‘positive body image’ or ‘being yourself’.

      Although you have all those Dove campaigns around to raise ‘self-esteem’ and ‘confidence’ (not anti-feminist) for insecure women who just haven’t gotten around to accepting themselves, I would prefer watching an Axe commercial (blatantly degrading to women) where a crowd of hot chicks attack a man. ;) Either way, they just want you to buy their products. That’s pretty much what the media aims for, I doubt they meant to be ‘anti-femminist’. The female anatomy is just so interesting. :P

      What is so wrong about being innocent and pure and writing 2 albums about it? xD And then winning a lot of awards??? ahaha.

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  30. no_detective

    I wanna take this post behind the middle school and get it pregnant.

    My first reaction to Taylor Swift the Hugely Successful Pop Star was confusion and mild disgust. I have since developed, uh, stronger and better defined feelings. Btw, I agree with everyone who said she won’t be around for long: she already comes across as infantile to the point of mental disability (no offense to the mentally disabled) and I honestly can’t see how her act will live on after she’s past legal drinking age. And in a few more years, I am SO going to enjoy that Where Are They Now VH1 special…

    By the way, Adam Lambert complimented Taylor’s Grammy dress and her height (…yeah, reaching a little there, babyboy) and called her a Glamazon. I so wish he were right. Speaking of Adam, who else is excited for his current not-a-shock-rocker-in-fact-totally-likable PR stage to end and the glittery-cultural-revolution-via-gay-anthems(bring-your-own-sex-toys) to begin? When you have some time, Riese, I’d LOVE to read your thoughts on him.

    One last thing: someone in the comments was mocking the apparent simplicity/unoriginality of Lady GaGa’s lyrics in LoveGame. To that I feel I should say: 1) disco stick is motherfrakkin’ poetry, 2) it is a glorious declaration of GaGa’s sexual identity as the woman on top, a.k.a. the rider of said disco stick, be it an organic part of the male anatomy or the baton wielded by the female cop in her video (hey – I believe in thorough literary analysis), and 3) despite everything we’ve ever learned from Britney, female desire can actually have agency beyond “I want you so much to want to do things to me” etc. SO THERE.

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    1. Aucoeur

      Don’t forget Britney also taught us about understanding the touch of our hands

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      1. a;ex

        ooo I love that song!

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  31. sarah

    You’re a dick wad!!! you obviously have so many issues of your own that you can sit there and write an entire essay about a girl who has just followed her dreams and been genuine the entire time! taylor Swift is a beautiful person, and society can’t get enough of her because there are not many people in the public eye that are like her. So what if she has an innocent appeal, why is that a bad thing? why can’t everyone just leave her alone? I don’t think she has the best voice of all time, or even a great voice at that but she has never claimed to be something she is not, she is just doing something that she loves and something that makes her happy. She puts on an entertaining show and writes music that people, not just tweens, normal everyday poeple, can relate to. So what if it is simple music, it’s obviously working in her favour!

    people just need to lay off. She won the award, there is nothing anyone can do about it and sitting here bitching about whether or not she deserved it is not going to do anything but bring people down. If you’re really concerned about making a difference and having a say, why don’t you put a bit more love out there instead of a critical essay on a 20 year old girl who just happens to get paid for something she loves doing. jeeze!

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    1. Liz

      *snort* Dickwad? 1999 called. It would like its insult back.

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      1. Aucoeur

        I am sorry to admit that I just called someone a jerkwad yesterday and then promptly roflcopters after letting the full meaning of it sink in.

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    2. a;ex

      My number one question for you, Sarah, is did you read this entire article?

      also, I think youre wrong here: “but she has never claimed to be something she is not,”

      And I think Riese is totally right, probs a feminist critique of the implications of a brand like “Taylor Swift” isn’t your thing.

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    3. Jamie

      oh sarah, expecting the world to treat someone (namely that swift girl) fairly because she is good/innocent, is like expecting a bull not to charge because she’s a vegetarian

      btw, i dont know what “normal everyday people” relates to thinking they’re repunzle awaiting prince charming, because “normal everyday people” know that it isnt reality and that most “prince charming” are awaiting their own prince charming. while others are either worrying about/paying their bills, or are engaged in sapphic “digital” intercourse.
      So grow up sarah, thanks in advance =]

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    4. nine

      HER SONG IS CALLED GIMME MORE FOR A REASON, CAUSE ALL YOU WANT IS MORE MORE MORE
      LEAVE TAYLOR ALONE!

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  32. Christine

    “…it never strives for thematic weight or challenges ideas not already covered by Sweet Valley High or The Children’s Illustrated Bible.”
    When I was in first grade, I’d read The Children’s Illustrated Bible one night, and the next day in class my teacher asked me if I’d been reading (we were supposed to do a certain amount each night) I told her I read the whole bible last night, and she thought I was a big liar. I always laugh when I think about that.
    —–
    BUT I DIGRESS-
    Great article I love the Madonna/Whore complex pictre. AMAZING article actually, well thought out. Riese (and Autostraddle) you never fail to lay down the facts and really disect pop-culture, which ends to get dismissed as fluff, but it’s fluff that affects us all.
    I knew that Taylor Swift portrays innocence, but now I JUST GET IT.

    Seriously, before I stumbled upon Autostraddle, I refused to let myself be seen as a feminist, you know the usual lame reasoning.
    BUT NOW I GET IT. YOU CHANGE LIVES.

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    1. Aucoeur

      Your tangent story is funny because that happened to me in 3rd grade! It was the Kid’s Bible and I honest-to-Gaga read it cover to cover and she didn’t believe me at all.

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      1. nine

        i also read that bible cover to cover!
        and then my parents got mad at me cause i stayed up all night reading…

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        1. Aucoeur

          Aw look at us bein’ all smited for readin a holy book and having to read’em in secret in the nighttime and now, little did they(we?) know, for also being of the gay!

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  33. SumDumGirl

    Really well done article. Still, I find Lady Gaga more obnoxious than Taylor Swift. And just as cookie cutter incidentally.

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  34. Alex!

    Well, it’s 3AM… my thoughts are a kinda disoriented and I shouldn’t be commenting, but I just wanted to say that this is pretty rad! I’m glad I grew up with songs that told me when I’m feeling sad and low, spice girls will take me where I gotta go, smiling dancing everything is free, all I need is positivity. Spice up your life.

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  35. Julia

    Uhg. Some of these commenters make me so angry. If they had actually read the article they would see that you weren’t being a dick at all and in fact made sure to say that Taylor Swift is not a terrible person, but her music didn’t deserve to win all these awards. People are so insulted that their beloved pop star is being insulted that they are being really cruel. You made sure in the article to point out that it wasn’t really anything personal towards Taylor, but rather the fact that she is getting so much notoriety in the music world. I think that her songs are catchy and they do mean a lot to teenage girls, but doesn’t that suggest that maybe they aren’t quite sophisticated enough to win awards? Also as a singer, I recognize that her voice isn’t nearly as strong as some other people’s. I think that she is doing really well because she writes accessible music and has a sweet face, but why does that grant her a Grammy? It is actually kind of inspiring I guess. Anyone can follow their dreams and win awards if they know how to market themselves. I thought it was a well written article and you took time to write it out thoughtfully, even if people don’t see that because they are fueled by defensiveness.

    P.S. I still think that was a dick move for Kanye to interrupt her. Nobody deserves that. It was her time, even if people don’t agree with the decision.

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    1. Catarinaaa

      Logic? xD

      ahahahaha. Y’all are so funny! I just laugh and laugh when I read this stuff.

      I love ponies and rainbows and prince chamning! Send me lots. :P

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  36. Lynne

    I think taytay is adorable & I will always enjoy drunkenly singing her songs with my roommate. I honestly just skimmed this cause its 3:35 in the morning, so I have nothing else to add without being misinformed. Well I can add that I would very much like to do lady gaga, and not taylor swift.

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  37. Aucoeur

    I just really want to stick it to whoever picks this stuff. Thanks to them, Taylor’s got this stuff to contend with now, while everyone else got snubbed.

    Taylor’s super cute and all but that’s about it. No more no less. She’s definitely not the one who makes me all sell-my-soul crazy up insides. Lady Gaga makes me want to change the religion section on facebook to Haus of Gaga, give up everything I have and join the little monster revolution.

    Dear Judger People,
    You suck.
    No thanks,
    Stiney

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  38. Paper

    I love this article, I love this infographic, I love you.
    .
    I have the same annoyance with Taylor Swift as I have with a lot of hyped mainstream entertainment (like Twilight, the DaVinci Code…). The products themselves might be pleasant and entertaining enough (although I do have individual problems with all of the things mentioned above), and if you like them, no problem, just don’t claim it’s good. Their ability to accumulate ridiculous amounts of money? Excellent. Their actual cultural value? …

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  39. mon

    i’ve tried to construct a comment several times and failed but i’ll just say I AGREE and thank you for this, i wish the entire media did their job properly, the world would be completely different. by which i mean/ am hoping that autostraddle is changing the world one article at a time.

    also i wish people would learn how to read!! is comprehension a lost art? this is probably also the media’s fault.

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  40. Anna

    Thank you guys so much, you rock. As a young Gen Y woman, I get so sick of the argument by conservative parents that listening to Britney, Lady Gaga and loving my little dyke Lindsay (despite all the craziness) would make me turn out to be a whore. It’s the same with all generations really but it’s an argument I am so bored of. I loved Britney as a kid, danced to her, bought all her albums and my brother called me a tart when I tied my shirt the way she did in the Baby One More Time video..I didn’t find out what that meant til I was older haha. And I’m not scarred by any of it. I know that they are performers and performers…well they just dress crazy onstage or off because well…to me they’re kind of entitled to, as they are, after all, entertainers. Swift is just another example of how Disney/the industry went for an image overhaul after the public downward spirals of some of their most loved (and successful) stars by bringing out heaps of self-proclaimed virgin/non-threatening/Conservative Christian/generic/cookie cutter etc singer-actresses to once again claim back a wholesome family image. I’m not that ‘out there’ myself but I like my entertainers to be brash, have kinda husky voices (I have one myself), rebellious, crazy and raw. I can live out that inner freak in me through them. Thus, my 4 favourite entertainers are Lady Gaga, Lezzy, opps I mean Lindsay Lohan, P!nk and Amy Winehouse. I also adore Ellen Page but I’m not sure where she fits into the equation right there lol.

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  41. Barbara

    THE INFOGRAPHIC ROCKS

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  42. RachelwasHere

    Riese, I am so glad that you not only made a point of separating your criticism of the product from the person (in bold, at that). I think the most important point here is the more subtle messages the Taylor Product delivers. And the majority of the songs (which is where Taylor the person has the most direct control) are fine- no girl bashing, no judgement in the lyrics. But you’ve pointed out some of the problems with the Taylor Product as a whole and a couple of songs in particular that are certainly worth considering. Thank you.

    First, I definitely agree with you on the Madonna/Whore motif. Sexuality should be a personal choice and every individual’s decisions respected. Instead (there was a great article you all linked to a while back, I think on Jezebel about this), young people are constantly being fed two opposing narratives: 1) having sex makes you a dirty whore or 2) not having sex makes you a prudish freak. And then we are taught to judge the actions of others along these same lines.

    The main offender here is, as you’ve pointed out, You Belong With Me. The boy is being seduced by heels and short skirts, but we are assured that what the boy *really* wants is the virginal sneakers and t-shirts Swift. It reinforces the idea that boys will run around with the “loose” girls (with little or no judgement on him) to get his kicks, but won’t want to really settle down with such a woman. If you want to win the man in the long-term you better keep those ankles crossed and knees covered. Same problem with referring to virginity as “everything”. The song pretty much states that if you want to have bigger dreams, you can’t have sex. Instead of reinforcing high school stereotypes and painting the “cool kids” as sexual and the “nerds bound for great success” as pure, wouldn’t it be great if a song suggested that we’re all the same and our choices are our own and we could all just show some compassion and get along?

    Because what a lot of this comes down to for me is compassion. There is room in this world for weirdos and punks and band geeks and cheerleaders and girls who want to shatter every gender role and girls who want to get married and work full-time as mothers. If you spent your childhood dreaming Swift-like fairy tales about boys in pick up trucks, great! The problem is when someone says “I’m doing what I’m doing because what that guy over there is doing is bad.” Or worse, when we tell others “You have to be like this because everything else is NOT OKAY.”

    Yes, we’ve all had bitter experiences in school and yes we can all relate to a song singing about how we are more deserving of getting what we want than that “other girl” who seems to have it so easy because she is prettier (and the end of the YBWM vid pretty much sends the message that if you want attention you’d best doll up as well). And this is exactly why I find the song’s theme so tired. Now write a song about how, looking back, you never really knew who that “other girl” was at all and should have just realized that you were both your own kind of cool and it doesn’t matter and maybe that song will stand out. Or at least be something I’d want my kids to listen to.

    Kids need to be taught to celebrate themselves because they have value as all people do and not to find self-esteem by criticizing others. If my (hypothetical and unlikely to ever exist) kids decide they want to be Taylor Swift when they grow up, they will at least have known that Lady Gaga was an option too.

    So while I find no problem with Taylor the person and only a few particular problems with her lyrics (which is true of many many artists), the Taylor Product packaging you’ve described does pain my inner feminist.

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    1. JentheJew

      Loose ladies in short skirts and high heels: When you are rejected by Tay Swift’s man-child boyfriend, please know that someone with an actual sex drive is waiting in the wings to appreciate your legs. namely me.

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        Or me. Especially if you have short skirts, high heels and glasses. :)

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  43. RachelwasHere

    While that comment is already ridiculously long (sorry!), I do have to add:

    As far as the Grammy goes, I find the theme of Taylor’s songs pretty bland and I think that is a fair part of a Why she shouldn’t have won argument. Saying the themes are simple doesn’t mean you shouldn’t love listening to it. Quite the opposite- we’ve all pinned for someone at some point so it’s no surprise that an album about that is largely unrequited love is wildly successful. But does it really stand out? (This question is why the lyric comparisons Riese gave are relevant.) Does its artistic value merit an award, or is the award about likability? Music doesn’t have to be a huge stage production or even address sexuality to be great. But it does have to have something about it, something that stands out and I’m not convinced this album does. These questions could be debated, but just saying “I hate you Riese, I love listening to Taylor” does not move the discussion forward. Tell me why you consider Taylor deserving of recognition along with the country greats and maybe you’l change my mind about the Grammy.

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  44. Barb

    Absolutely stunning. Kudos, Riese.

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  45. Matt

    Riese, although I don’t agree with everything you’ve said in this article, you said it with honesty and from your perspective and it is interesting to read your points and think of why I agree or disagree with them.

    I would be interested in seeing if you could look at Taylor from the other side of the coin. Imagine yourself as one of those that love and respect her and admire her and try to see the reasons why they do, and why those reasons might be valid. I wonder if it’s possible to argue for something you completely disagree with and make it believable. It’s easy to argue passionately for or against something when you are arguing with your heart and mind, and especially easy when you argue against or for something or someone that is suddenly being attacked from everywhere, or supported from everywhere.

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  46. Matt

    Another point I want to make..has every Album of the Year Grammy winning album been deserving over every other album that year? It’s subjective, and I think if you went back and examined them all you’d find a number of them that could be debated. Were the lyrics of Beyonce’s Single Ladies really so wonderful and amazing that that song should have own against the songs it was up against?

    It’s kind of sad to me that Taylor is taking so much heat just for being herself, writing the songs about her life that she writes and being loved for herself and her music by those that love her when there are so many other things that deserve people’s outrage and hate. Is it really such a horrible thing, her winning album, to deserve such a concentrated attack on her value in society and music by so many media outlets and blogs and newswriters, when there are music artists that glorify crudity and killing and other things and no one cares or thinks twice about it? And that’s just in music, it doesnt encompass realities of crime and famine and wars and politicians and all the other tragedies going on today.

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  47. Bri

    …I’m at a loss for words.

    I’m in love with this article.

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  48. MOCAgrrrl

    I needed this article more than a big cup of coffee this afternoon.

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  49. Shauna

    I’ve never commented before but this article is so necessary/freaking awesome that I feel the need to. I was on a university soccer team and was made to listen to her music all the time when we travelled everywhere and I wanted to jam a screwdriver in my ear drum to make it stop. I heard she won a Grammy and was absolutely appalled. There is nothing progressive/original/intelligent about her songs and trust me I heard pretty much all of them. I never had much respect for award shows anyway but now I have zero appreciation for them. Swift winning the grammy was like a celebration of gender-role enforcing mediocrity. I’m really worried for the younger generation when they have role models like this.

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  50. Mindy

    I always check the alt tags on your images. They’re fun.
    #nerdalert.

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  51. Christine

    There are not enough expletives to do justice to the perfection that is this article!

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  52. Nina

    SUPERBLY stated! I’ve never even paid any attention to Swift, and WOW! now I’m so glad I haven’t. I thank the universe that my daughter has never embraced this puritanical pablum. She can crank up the volume on My Chem any time she wants. =)

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  53. Shannon

    I like Taylor Swift. She has feel good music that’s fun and carefree and at times sincere. She probably is aware that her music is as shallow as a puddle but she’s at least not trying to be anything that she’s not. I believe most of her music is relatable. As for comparing her to Lady Gaga… I’m not quite sure if there is even much of a difference between the two artists. Lady Gaga sings about “just dancing”, paparazzi (and if this song isn’t completely boy/girl/whatever obsessive, I don’t know what is), and Bad Romance is a series of grunts half the time! I can understand that Taylor Swift shouldn’t have won Best Album as her predecessors had actual talent, but I don’t think Swift can be completely discredited for whatever talent she does have.

    She may portray men as angels or godly, but she also shows them as deceitful (eg You Should’ve Said No, Picture To Burn, You’re Not Sorry). Yes, she’s boy-obsessive and this does limit her range of linguistic style but, in the end, she puts out a good product.

    What I’m trying to say is that while you’re article brings up some good points, it is pretty dismissive about the quality of Taylor Swift. And as for how she projects gender stereotypes… It is taken too literal. Taylor Swift is nothing but a symbol for all girls feeling insecure or geeky and although she puts on specs and puts up her hair, that is not a literal show of how a traditional geek is. It is merely a symbol that represents girls who are in that situation whether it be a geek competing with someone who is prettier than they are or a random shy loner who competes with someone more outgoing. In that respect, it’s pretty identifiable.

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  54. Sarah

    An excellant read, but judging by some comments, the original point I feel you were making has gotten pushed slightly aside. Firstly I love Gaga and yes both Cd’s of the Fame Monster have been in my player since I bought it and THEY’RE STAYING THERE!! That’s not to say I hate or dislike Taylor, she’s ok,if people love her stuff then good for her/them…But getting back to the point, personally I can’t wait for the Brit Awards because Lady Gaga is up for 3,Best International Female, International Album and is ONLY pitched against Swift in the International Breakthrough Act, but wait for it…that one is voted for by MTV viewers, which kinda unerves me because of ‘Kanye-gate’…so it should be interesting how our British industry votes on the other 2 categories, but I like to think that are music industry is a bit more open minded, than some countries,hint, hint Brit Award voting panel (I have faith in you, so please do not fail me)…please though, if Swift wins can I call on Autostraddle for therapy?!!

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  55. Sarah

    For the record, I like Taylor’s music. Like Riese, I wouldn’t change the radio station if she came on. I even have a couple songs on my iPod. But I feel the same way about Taylor as I do about Katy Perry: those songs are damn catchy but sooooo shallow. I think Taylor’s message & its larger implications, not the musical quality of her work, is what this article is criticizing. So it seems to me that all the comments arguing that Taylor is talented are a bit off point. Of course she is; the issue at hand is bigger than her talent.

    Either way, I agree totally with the points made here. Her themes are so regressive and repetitive. I’m sure some high school girls have those feelings, but 1) Taylor wasn’t one of those girls and 2) that’s probably just a product of girls being exposed to fairy tales their entire lives. I’d much rather celebrate music that forces young girls to realize there is a bigger world beyond high school and boys, rather than music that induces navel gazing and a loop of the same immature feelings.

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  56. Allie

    Love love LOVE this!

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  57. Kaitlyn

    “That’s right. All Abigail had was her hymen.” – this was my favorite out of the entire article.

    Also, perhaps if teenage girls stopped listening to taylor swift and read a book the challenged them once in a while, then just may be they may stop treating themselves and each other the way they do. Perhaps, they would take control of their lives and sexualities instead of allowing someone else to control them. this may be asking too much.

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    1. Matt

      I don’t think Taylor Swift is the reason Teenage girls don’t read books and don’t challenge or think for themselves. I think both boys and girls since time began have struggled with finding themselves and their sexuality and adolescence. 15 years or so ago the babysitter’s club books were huge along with many other questionable influences and I venture to say that it’s been that way throughout history.

      The same is true for the other side of the equation too..the beatles and Elvis were condemned as being terrible influences on society and youth because what they did changed society. I’m not equating Taylor with either of those, though her influence and impact on music and society is definately real; but like them there is a big debate on whether what she does is positive or negative on those that admire her. The view that seems to be most vocally and passionatly expressed right now seem to see that influence as negative.

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      1. mere84

        wow, talk about late to the party…

        first of all, riese: bra-fuckin’-vo on the article

        secondly, matt: you kinda rock for being so passionate but respectful in your opposition to / cautious consideration of this article

        if i may just add: Matt’s comparison to the Beatles/Elvis/etc is pretty interesting for a few reasons. and i think a lot of it comes down to our culture RIGHT NOW. the beatles and elvis were artists during revolutionary times. i think it’s safe to say, with such a hotly debated president and the same-sex marriage issue at the forefront of our political landscape, that these are times of comparative change for America. but here’s the thing… and the reason, perhaps, that AS and Riese are in Gaga’s corner: Elvis (with his snarl and gyrating hips) and the Beatles (with their rakish looks, drug-induced lyrics and “noise”) were the sound of the REVOLUTION. Taylor Swift is not. her lyrics are sweet. i’ll sing along to her music and acknowledge that she makes broadly appealing pop-country music, but she is certainly not ground-breaking in the way the Elvis or the Beatles moved music (and youth) forward. and that’s not to say Taylor Swift is a bad person or even a bad entertainer; but it probably helps explain why people are so divided over her work. that inexplicable passion over, OF ALL PEOPLE, Taylor Swift comes down to either conservative OR progressive sentiments. that’s why TS can’t vote for Obama AND have the adoration of her Middle-America fanbase. or why TS adheres so closely to well-tread gender-roles and constructs of “family”. and it’s also why Gaga has become the champion of this website’s writers/designers and lots of other marginalized readers.

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        1. mere84

          reflecting for a sec… all those sentences at the end of my last post were written very definitively and are somewhat presumptuous. they are meant more as theoretical statements. AS probs loves Gaga for way more reasons than b/c this is a progressive website. i mean, her music is rad. she’s entertaining and, freakishly, hot. plus, on the flip-side, i know lots of life-long republicans that will listen to (and admit liking) Gaga in the same way lots of people on this site will admit to liking Swift’s music. so – like Riese said a gazillion comments ago – the two entertainers and trains of thought are not mutually exclusive. it’s the trend we’re all concerned about. ;)

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        2. JentheJew

          Also, for me, in Gaga’s favor, I do think she can be seriously dissected. Especially if you look at her videos. I am not wise in these ways, but my stepmom is an editor/reader for a few indie poetry/writing mags, was a lit major, etc. And we were listening to Paparazzi and she managed to take it apart lyric by lyric and decided that it was a warning against sleeping with fans, lest ye be stalked. When we saw the video, that was pretty much decided. Bad Romance is about the music industry. The whole monster motif is about what fame does to people. So if you are wise in the way of lyrics/images, I think it would be possible to talk about what she’s really talking about. I’m not sure that’s possible with Tay Swift. At least, said stepmom never brought anything up with Love Story that way she did Paparazzi.

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        3. Matt

          Thanks for the compliment. I think I understand what you are saying as far as Taylor not being the voice of the revolution in during these current societal changes. On the other hand, I don’t think that’s what she tries for; she tries only to be her own voice, and that voice just happens to resonate with millions of girls (and others) She is the voice of millions who have experienced hurt and hope and dreams, and I think there is a need for someone to be that voice as well as a need for the kind of confrontation and ability to disrupt complacency that people like Gaga and Kanye and others provide. I saw several comments that some people don’t get what this article is saying, I hope I’m not one of them. I realize that Riese isn’t arguing Taylor has no talent, just the validity and content and purpose of her songs and lyrics. My own belief and arguement is that there is a need and a place for lyrics and examples like Taylor. During any revolution militant or pacifisitic, there are the exponents of complete change with no regard to any existing norms or established traditions, but that sort of totalistic abolishment of everything a society is founded on is dangerous not only to the existing society but also to those orchestrating the changes, and to the people they want to affect. There is need for both those carrying brand new ideas and for those that maintain a stability and normalcy in society and government while new ideas are being tested and implemented. Otherwise you have the Soviet Union, or post-reign of terror France. Granted some would argue with me on both points, but I believe good and perhaps better results could have been achieved if less violent and less total chaotic means had been used.

          Also I find it kind of ironic that people view Taylor as a fundamental repressed puritan type of victorian princess. I’ve followed her career since before she had a record deal and neither she nor her parents fit that mold. Taylor is very openly accepting of both the gay community and of liberal thinking, she sings along to Gaga and Jayz and Drake, she watches the Tudors and True Blood on a regular basis (and if you know those shows, you know she’s no retiring mouse when it comes to sexual awareness) People assume because she left public school at 16 and finished her courses from a christian school that that shaped her into a little puritan, but she did her school work on the road, with her band of people in their 30s and 40s who were all weathered Nashville musicians. If you havn’t before, I suggest you listen to her quote Stevie Wonder’s speech the night Obama was elected president. She remembered it word for word and quoted it on the Ryan Seacrest show the next day. I think it shows without a doubt that she supported and voted for Obama. you can listen to it here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9fCog5V2GI

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          1. Roxy Throatpunch

            Matt, I’m fairly certain I misspoke in my earlier comment – referring to you as “Mike.” Apologies. You’re awesome and your comments have been a highlight of this discussion for me. Rock on.

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  58. Matt

    I think it’s interesting that topic of young women not finding out early enough that they are gay. Afterellen wrote a blog about Taylor’s SNL sketch Roomies, and the author of that blog indicated that any young woman that wasn’t sure if she was gay should watch that clip, because it answers those questions.

    http://www.afterellen.com/blog/stuntdouble/taylor-swift-goes-subtly-gay-on-an-snl-sketch

    And another interesting thing, someone in the comments there claimed that they knew her and she was actually a pillow lesbian in high school. I seriously doubt that claim myself, but then who knows. If she was she definately has more experience and scope than some give her credit for.

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  59. Haviland

    THIS IS IT. RIGHT HERE:

    “Here’s the rub: actual freaks make really awesome music. It’s edgy and complicated and it comes from a yearning, desperate, mixed-up place where pain & happiness have existed in equal parts for almost entire lifetimes. It’s not safe or sexless — it’s ugly, hopeful danger.”

    This is what I’m aspiring to, always…
    Where my little monsters @ —
    http://www.havilandstillwell.com/raise-the-funds

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  60. Jamie

    Love this article riese, i read it like twice already. It’s ABSOLUTE BRILLIANCE.
    It’s exactly what i thought except with better grammar, less foul words, and awesome graphics!
    I <3 the way autostraddle captures and filters my thoughts & enable others to write their awesome and witty comments like this one

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  61. Megan

    My head is so full of everyone else’s comments that I don’t even know what to say.

    All I will add is that I read this article and the comment feed while I was in the library on campus. I didn’t realize how many stares I was receiving from all the laughing and “yes!” ‘s I was doing. I actually clapped at one point. I mean I didn’t stand up and clap (that would have been better) but it was like a laugh/clap thing. Does anyone else do that? Oh, I’m also alone. Hahaha.

    Love this article. It is everything I have been trying to tell everyone else, except a million times better.

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  62. tracy@shewired

    Great Piece Riese. Who knew Taylor Swift was such a lightning rod of controversy among the non-hetero tween set? But Lilo’s Cooch, why was I dragged into this dialectic? I was just sitting home drinking coffee and enjoying my Google Alert that led to Riese’s thoughtful and hilarious piece and lo and behold you’re offering up me up to Sketch as a sacrifice. I do not need her on my ass. I’ve never written a negative thing about Taylor except that someone like Pink would have snatched Kanye’s Hennessy bottle, taken a swig and told him to fuck off. And that’s the kind of girl I believe should be a role model to all young women!

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    1. JentheJew

      Haha, I’ve always said I would love to see what would have happened if he’d tried that with someone like Gaga.

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      1. nine

        security had to stop Pink from going right up to him after he did that!

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        1. JentheJew

          You know, to be honest, I’m the kind of person who would have stood there and cried, because I am a lameass. This is why I’m not an example for the youth. This is why I fall MADLY IN LOVE with badass women like Gaga and Pink, who probably would have popped him.

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  63. Sally

    I’ll preface this comment by saying I don’t really know an awful lot about Taylor Swift; I’m not sure she’s had much impact beyond that of any other imported North American pop ingenue, here in the UK. But then we are slightly country-music-phobic as a nation, and her high-school pinings seem a tad anachronistic when we have Lily Allen complaining about lying in cum stains after unfulfilling sex.

    However, I would be terribly abashed to make an uninformed comment, so I thought I’d do a little research. It only took a few bursts of her back catalogue on spotify for me to realise that her music sits plum in the middle of the kind of music I really don’t like (I do have quite specific criteria that needs to be fulfilled for this, I wasn’t just dimissing out of hand). So, realising I could learn nothing of her appeal from her music, I needed to ask the only person I knew in the world that actually liked Taylor Swift, an ex. Here is our text convo:

    Me: “Who is better: lady gaga or taylor swift, and why!”

    Ex: “Uhm, tough one! Taylor, emotional lyrics!”

    Me: “I think it’s just because you want to imagine you are in dawson’s creek! Admit it!”

    Ex: “Yeah, either that or one tree hill”

    It started to dawn on me what this article was about, or at least what it meant to me. People have mentioned the fairy-tale qualities of Taylor’s stuff, boy meets girl, happy ever after etc. which sits sort of symbiotically alongside the common notion that every little girl dreams of her wedding day.

    I remember a close friend at school that said she did indeed dream of that, and that for her marriage was the ultimate goal; she didn’t long for a career. My school was full of very intelligent and independent girls (gogo English grammar schools!), and when she said that, it was rather unexpected. For reasons that are now obvious, I had never dreamed of marriage, and in a cloud of teenage solipsism, I actually thought that the whole concept of marriage idealism was a myth, because if I didn’t think it, who else would, right? (this is only one of many naive disbeliefs I have had in my life. For many years I truly didn’t believe that people could have ginger pubic hair, and my god, it was quite the trauma when I witnessed first-hand that they could)

    What I’m trying to get at here, is that there is a whole ideology built around the concepts that Taylor espouses, and she has, perhaps unwittingly, become the figurehead of it in our minds. This is an ideology which I can notionally understand, but feels completely alien to me, as alien as when I walk into a room of middle-class, centre-right straight folks and all that is going through my head is “you are not my people.”

    Conversely, for the first time I can think of, there is someone out there in the public eye that is representing the aspects of myself that I never dared think anyone would give credence: queerness, freakishness, violent passion and, er, monster claws. And she’s not just some figurehead, she has the popularity and record sales to back it up.

    So when the supremely talented queen of subculture gets beaten by the safe and saccharine princess of mainstream, it’s not a trivial award loss. It’s fucking heartbreaking. It’s saying that no matter how successful you queer weirdos are, we’ll never let you pierce through this thick safety blanket (or straight jacket) of fairy tale lies we have wrapped around the youth of the land.

    Your article was fantastic. I didn’t agree with everything you said, and thought that despite differentiating between Taylor the product and person, it did occasionally veer too much towards the personal. But I got incalculable pleasure from the intensity of passion tempered by reason. Please, write more.

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    1. Grace Chu

      Awards, schmawards. Winning Album of the Year and winning American Idol are nothing but rubber stamps of approval during a snapshot in time. Maybe Taylor Swift and Kris Allen will sell a few million more records and fill a couple of stadiums as a result of winning their respective awards / competitions, but no one is going to remember their cultural impact in ten or fifteen years.

      But for provocateurs who are able to marry underground aesthetics to the mainstream, such as Lady Gaga and Adam Lambert, there is still hope – not just to win awards and sell records but to actually make a cultural impact. For people like Taylor Swift and Kris Allen, I’m afraid that this is as good as it’s going to get.

      In 2001, Steely Dan beat Beck, Eminem, Radiohead and Paul Simon for Record of the Year. No one knows who the hell Steely Dan is nowadays, but people still think Radiohead’s Kid A is a groundbreaking album and Eminem’s The Marshall Mathers LP (despite its questionable lyrical content) is a hip-hop masterpiece. So yippee for Steely Dan, but it is the others who really won – their music withstood the test of time.

      (O hai, I registered!)

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      1. Callamander

        Taylor Swift was never on american idol. she would have never even made the first cut. Simon would have ripped her apart telling her that her singing is awfull and go be a model somewhere that you don’t have to sing or talk..

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    2. mon

      i have a few close friends who throughout their professional training and even now in the formative years of successful careers have always said that if only they could find the right guy they would give up their significant scholarly investment and be happy to stay at home learning ikebana. needless to say they are aware of my ever-rolling eyeballs. oh also one of them listens to taylor swift, uhh so there’s that.

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      1. Grace Chu

        I’m going to go off topic, but the “highly educated woman with a successful launch of her high powered career turning into a housewife after ten years in the workforce” isn’t as rare as you think. Why? The corporate world just kind of sucks. Being tied to your Blackberry and not having a personal life sucks. Dealing with office politics, irritating bosses, incompetent underlings and backstabbing support staff sucks sucks sucks. Being treated like a machine and not a person, no matter what your title is, is again… teh suck. And when you work long hours in that environment so that you never see the people who actually give a rat’s ass about you… sucketh!

        Everyone hates the rat race and are only generally in it to run away with a pile of money or for approval from others. Otherwise, it’s completely and utterly miserable. Society still lets women quit the workforce and not get looked at disapprovingly (except from other women who brand them as “quitters.”) So women have this escape hatch, and men don’t. Men wish they did, however!

        I’ve been out of college a little over ten years. Recently, a few of my female friends have opted to use the escape hatch. One, the most A-type feminist “I can have it all” type I know, who I thought would become the CEO of a bank or head up a hedge fund, recently told me she stays home with her son and is much happier. So do I judge them? Ten years ago I would have ripped them a new asshole, but now a part of me – and a part which seems to get stronger each year – is secretly jealous. Also, who am I to rain on their happy parade?

        All I know is that if I win the lottery and get these horrible student loans paid off, I’m quitting the law racket, except to do some side work for artists and musicians, which is what I wanted to do all along. And I’ll travel. And write full time.

        Having financial security without actually having to grind myself to the bone – AND so I can pursue interests that are actually *interesting* – AND possibly spawn and actually get to see my hypothetical spawn grow up instead of being stuck on the 34th floor in a glass building in midtown Manhattan surrounded by reams of shitpaper (and shitheads)… that’s quickly becoming my personal fairy tale. Every moment you live shortens the time you have left – why not make the rest of your life easier?

        Anyway, society still allows women to quit the workforce to stay home while it punishes men that do. (Some) heterosexual women are aware of this and use it to their advantage. Me? I’m a homo and this option isn’t available so hi ho, hi ho, off to work I go…

        Let the flames, toilet papering and general haterade begin. ;)

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        1. mon

          ok i can definitely see where you’re coming from, and i don’t blame those women who choose a life away from their career. i will admit to generalising.

          however, the problem with my specific situation and friends is that we don’t work in the corporate world, i didn’t really want to get into details but we generally agree that out of all the careers that we could have gone into, ours is the most generous, flexible, no working for ‘the man’, we really truly help people, etc. for us it IS possible to work part-time and have a very comfortable lifestyle. these are options that are available and yet some of my friends would give it all up, after beating out other people who would gladly have taken their place at university, for something anyone can have if they only find the right guy? (again, slightly generalising.) maybe i’m idealistic but i can’t help but think it’s a waste.

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          1. Grace Chu

            yeah, that makes no sense to me either, but i suppose to each her own. i think it’s easy to look at them and say “wow, they have really been duped by the conservative ideal, yadda yadda” or “why do they want A when B is available to them?” but i suppose finding the right guy is simply what is appealing to them, and in a society where being an independent career woman is now a choice, “finding a right guy” is no longer something women are forced to do. instead, it is just another alternative – something women can choose out of their own free will. it’s just something you and i would not choose.

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        2. Linda

          “…All I know is that if I win the lottery and get these horrible student loans paid off, I’m quitting the law racket, except to do some side work for artists and musicians, which is what I wanted to do all along. And I’ll travel. And write full time…”

          …and there would be no risk of the lottery jackpot cheating on you, bringing home HIV, and offering a divorce if you don’t keep sleeping with it.

          Yes, the rat race sucks, but depending on a sex partner for a living can have a down side too:

          http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A34022-2004Dec3.html
          http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3872773.stm

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          1. Grace Chu

            …which is why women should be encouraged to get an education and learn marketable skills. because if the shit hits the fan, you aren’t shit outta luck. :) the women i’m talking about above all have marketable skills and a high powered network. should they ever decide to return to the workforce, they have a very good chance of doing just fine. not exceptionally well as defined by those in charge of the rat race, but enough to stay afloat and then some.

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            1. Linda

              Right on! :)

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  64. itsbrittany

    I loved this article so much that I decided to read every single comment on it as well. 183 of them. And now I can’t really form a coherent sentence because my head is going to explode. But it was amazing.

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  65. Sarah

    @Sarah (member)- Ah, you put that so much better than I did, I didn’t quite know how to put into words about the articles point being slightly pushed aside, by some of the comments made.

    Plus I just have to add…After commenting on here I went and had tea and flicked through the newspapers and there in front of me was a brief write up about Taylors new release, how uncanny is this..! I won’t quote it totally but basically said that she seems to exist in a fantasy world in which the code of life isn’t DNA but a string of greetings cards messages and that probably works great for her record label who can pay her in magic beans, but doesn’t say much for the fans who so willingly immerse themselves in Taylors World of Nice…ok, so I did pretty much quote the whole thing, but it made me chuckle and obvs they’re on our wavelength too!! ;)

    To me though, music has a multitude of meanings,it can be just something to hum the day away to, or it can provide a soundtrack to a particular point in life,whether in a happy way or sad etc…but its lyrics that you yourself find that you can relate to that can have the biggest impact/impression on our lives, I know I don’t speak for everyone, but when you actually take the time to stop and really ‘listen’ to the music/words you see it in a different light, it’s true meaning.
    So yes Gaga is flamboyant, but behind all that, more importantly she’s an artist who’s true to herself and isn’t afraid to wear it on her sleeve (quite literally!) which makes her songs real and with so much more depth and certainly character too(which she should be commended and awarded for). Discovering songwriters whose songs/lyrics I can dentify with has helped me personally so much recently,but its the fact that I know that they have experienced what it is they are singing about that strikes the chord. I guess what I’m trying to say is..who do you respect more? Someone who has actual experience (been there, done that or doing it) or someone who has just read/dreamt or been told about it?
    Whoa, sorry I think I got carried away, wow I didn’t realise I had so much to say, please feel free to delete my ramblings.
    P.s, I love the fact that I have found a website that discuss matters such as these, and that we too can join in too!!

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  66. Tiara the Merch Girl

    Perhaps Taylor Swift is really a performance artist mocking the vapidity of such messages and pointing out how prevalent they are in society – hence the near-exact matches.

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  67. Kristina

    I feel very schizophrenic right now because less than a week ago I was the #1 fan of team “STFU t-swift” and now I’m about to try and defend her actions. After reading way more about her this week than I care to admit I’ve developed more of an understanding of why she is the way she is. I even kind of sympathize with the girl (hold on let me explain!!!) I think it is very difficult, if not impossible, for anyone to understand Taylor Swift’s actions unless they’ve been raised in a similar environment to Swift.

    I can understand why Taylor Swift is the way she is because until about 3-4ish years ago I was just like her. She was raised in an extremely conservative, Evangelical, Christian home. Evidenced by the fact, among other things, that her parents chose to home-school her under the guidance of Aaron Academy (a school whose statement of purpose includes this: “We also believe that our students will be “a chosen generation, a royal priesthood” to the world they will live in, the future standard bearers for the Lord”). I was also raised in a crazypants conservative household with parents that sent me to a school that can only be described as something out of “Jesus Camp.” See, Taylor and I were taught that yes we could be whatever we wanted to be just as long as a fit into the confines of a traditional Biblical worldview. We weren’t given powerful female role models to look up to. We were given the Bible and were expected to adhere to its archaic standards of what a woman should be. These teachings absolutely destroy the self-worth of a young girl and skew her perception of the world. I think keeping those things in mind when you look at Taylor Swift make her actions/music more understandable. She’s writing about what she knows and what she knows is that a girl is only worth as much as the boy she marries.

    The only reason I’m not still like Taylor Swift, ignorantly going along with everything I was taught, is because something forced me to question those teachings. When you start to think you might be gay the whole literal interpretation of the Bible doesn’t work so well for you anymore. Very few people stray drastically from the things they are taught as a child though (Sociology 101 or something). That is why the traditional Evangelical Christian religion lives and breathes Proverbs 22:6 (SEE! even now I can spit out random Bible verses). What I’m saying is Taylor hasn’t had a reason to question any of the dogma that has been heaved on her and so she’s just throwing it recklessly back into the world through her music (thankfully minus any heavy-handed Jesus references…so far). Yes she absolutely is a feminist’s nightmare. But I think it’s kind of unfair to expect her to be any other way. She’s obviously been wrapped in a cocoon of ignorance by her parents. According to that Rolling Stone article her mother is basically with her at all times! I get the feeling that Taylor hasn’t been exposed to any kind of diversity in her life that would make her even begin to question what she’s been taught.

    The more that I think about it the more I’m confused as to why any of this is even about Taylor Swift. I feel like Taylor is just being who she was raised to be and those around her realized that it is incredibly marketable. I say blame her parents, blame the Country music industry, and blame whoever the fuck is voting t-swift for all these awards because they are the ones that are glorifying this ignorant woman-child.

    Lady Gaga, Beyonce, and Kanye West will all be just fine in life…they’re all confident, independent women. Taylor Swift, at the age of 20, is neither confident nor independent and will probably never be.

    ps. I probably projected my own religion/parent/life issues onto
    t-swizz more than I should have and I’ll def just print this comment off and take it with me the next time I see my therapist. It’ll save me at least 5 sessions.

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    1. JentheJew

      Good point about a religious upbringing. I mos def did not have one; Dad’s a reform Jew, Mom was sort of ‘Christian’ secular nothing, she did Christmas and Easter and believed in God and all that, but I never went to church. Hell, we only started attending temple regularly a few years ago. I can only imagine if I had, I would still be closeted and probably married. I just don’t honestly have a very tough personality, so kudos to you for coming out of it.

      Also, is it strange that I am a little offended but the use of Aaron Academy and priestly and Christians? I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE, CHRISTIANS.

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    2. nine

      “Lady Gaga, Beyonce, and Kanye West will all be just fine in life…they’re all confident, independent women.”

      hah!

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  68. Steve

    So you’ve spent some time complaining that Taylor doesn’t recognize the other nominees in her speeches. Well, lets take a look at 2 of Gaga’s thank-yous:

    best new artist vma’s 2009:
    “It’s my first moon-man! i just want to say a big thank you to my family, Troy Carter, and Vincent Herbert. Jimmy Ivy and Don lawrence. Can you hold this for a sec? I love you guys! This is for my fans, your the best fans in the whole world, I love you. And it’s for God and the gays!”

    Her twitter account after the Grammy’s:
    “We won big tonight little monsters, i am so proud to make music 4 you. i hope i continue to inspire u the way u inspire me. you’re everything.”

    I see nothing about nominees in there. Uh oh!

    You should also know that not all music comes from “yearning, desperate, mixed-up places.” Yes, believe it or not, there are other motivational emotions that are used to write music and lyrics. Notice there how I separated music from lyrics, because they’re not the same. Get it? And not all artists grow up with a troubled life. Some do grow up in wealthy or comfortable homes. (omgz reallyz??!)

    You also spent some time complaining about how the only way Taylor can make herself look like an outcast is by putting on glasses. Lets keep in mind the audience she is writing for… children and teens! What is a common nightmare for young kids in school? glasses! why? because they think they’ll be labeled as a geek. Childish reasoning? of course, but this is the audience that she chooses to write for. Gaga’s on the other hand writes for a far more mature and explicit group of listeners.

    And then you go on to ridicule Taylors music because when you were her age you and your friends were sexually active. Well thats lovely for you but is there a rule that states she must follow this lifestyle? She has chosen a conservative, abstaining lifestyle, not everyone lives the same way. So let her sing about the life that she knows and you can go on and sing along to Gaga’s stories instead.

    Finally lets looks at Taylor’s most popular or well-known stanza of poetry:
    “You’re on the phone with your girlfriend she’s upset/shes going off about something that you said/cause she doesn’t get your humor like I do.”

    Maybe not the best but it seems genuine and high schoolish… which I believe is what she’s going for.

    Lets compare Gaga’s latest popular stanza that people love to quote:
    “Ra ra ah ah ah/roma ro ma ma/Ga Ga oh la la/want your bad romance.”

    Well both examples have one thing in common, they both suck! But, as childish as they may be, only one of them makes sense.

    So it’s time to stop crying (a week after the show) because your team lost the award. Hey, maybe next year! In the end though, when you can write better lyrics & music, or when you’re a member of the Recording Academy, then maybe your opinion will matter. Until then, accept it for what it is and move on.

    But for real, just enjoy the music you like without spending days attacking the artists you don’t just because your love didn’t win.

    This coming from someone who actually likes Gaga’s music better, by the way.

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    1. wasteunit

      This (along with a complete lack of talent) is why I could never be a journalist. It makes me so angry when people miss the point entirely.

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    2. Barbara

      “So it’s time to stop crying (a week after the show) because your team lost the award”

      Who is crying?? No one is crying here. This is a cultural impact analysis not an attack. Don’t see any sobs or sighs nor passive aggressive feelings.

      “when you can write better lyrics & music, or when you’re a member of the Recording Academy, then maybe your opinion will matter”.

      Hey who the **** you think you are? Everyone’s opinion matters here, we are not under Stalinism or a sultanate.

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      1. Steve

        Crying was used sarcastically to point out that you come off as sore losers. Especially by saying things like:

        “There wasn’t even anything to hate about Taylor Swift’s twangy addictive pop/country music until she snagged Album of the Year”

        or

        “Following the announcement of Taylor’s win we shut off the teevee.”
        -from the “Why Taylor Won and Lady Gaga Didn’t” article.

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        1. JentheJew

          Interesting sidenote: Why are so many men popping up to defend Taylor here, when we’re a lesbian site that usually gets like one guy a week?

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          1. nycamber2

            they need something to do with their other hand

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            1. Steve

              typical.

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          2. Matt

            My own reason for defending her and debating her merits as a musician and what I see as her positive cultural presence is I have always admired her as a person and as a lyricist and performer. She’s young enough to be my daughter and while I believe she is beautiful I’ve never seen her as a sex object, although I’m sure she is that to many men and some women out there. I also always feel a need to stand up for anyone that is experiencing criticism that I feel is not fully justified. I have defended Gaga as well, tho not online, and various other people famous as politicians and celebrities.
            I just wish I was more eloquent so I could provide more thoughtful and more convincing arguements.

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            1. JentheJew

              But how did you even find it? Like, did you wake up and go “I need to see if the lesbians are picking on Taylor Swift?”

              It’s cool that you like her and all, but I think she represents a very white, Christian, straight, passive ideal of womanliness and normality that needs to be challenged.

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            2. Matt

              I wasn’t even aware that this was a lesbian site to be honest and the article was retweeted I think by someone on twitter is how I found it. I can’t even remember for sure. I am always very interested in perspectives by all races/sexes/orientations of people on anything that interests me, and while sometimes I don’t agree with those perspectives I try to see why those opinions differ from mine; even though I fail sometimes to step aside from my own opinion enough to grasp what others are saying and seeing I still try. I often read the afterellen site because although I am a straight man, I find seeing the world from their point of view helps me not to be as narrow in my own as I would otherwise. It seems to me that the ladies at afterellen have a different perception of Taylor than the majority do here, or else they just don’t discuss her as much.

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            3. Matt

              I find the statement that you think “she represents a very white, Christian, straight, passive ideal of womanliness and normality that needs to be challenged”
              very interesting. I realize you are voicing your own opinion and should voice it, but the reasoning behind that statment bothers me a little.

              Is the image that she maintains and presents to the world and that millions of people accept and appreciate and applaud any less valid or acceptable to those that disaggree with or oppose that image just because they hold a different image as what is acceptable and praiseworthy? Why should she be expected to be different or to present a different less “pristine” image if you will, just because not everyone is going to have her persona or her looks or her background and life? Should she be forced to be more like Gaga if that is not her nature and should those that admire her be reprimanded or mocked because they have the same personal views and dreams and feelings that she sings about and presents? Just as Gaga speaks for all those that support and admire her and see her as a figurehead of their culture, there seems to be just as many that feel that Taylor represents their own individual psyche. Neither should Gaga or her fans be mocked or belittled because they look up to her as representing their views and lifestyle and aspirations.

              I think this is the reason I find all the articles and criticisms and bashing (not on this site) of Taylor offensive to me. Those people that say she is undeserving of what she has achieved and the awards others have voted her worthy of seem just as guilty as those in the past have been of devaluing and dehumanizing the those that came from Africa and the American Indian and yes, gays and lesbians. The scale and magnitude of the offense is less but the basic premise is still the same. If Taylor is true to herself, then to try to take away her worth as that person and her value and right to sing about it and project it in her behaviour and talk, is the same as undermining her value as a person in being who she is by nature. To carry it further, then to say that all those that love her music and see her as someone to be admired are wrong for doing so, when she echoes what they feel and believe and aspire to, is to say they should not follow their basic natures either.

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            4. JentheJew

              I think that she never would have gotten this far if she didn’t embody those values, because she is a package made up to espouse those values. That’s the portrayal of appropriate womanhood we’ve been given for years and years, and it tells teenage girls that this is the way to be, this is how you are meant to be, and anything else is wrong. Hell, those ideals are why I was practically engaged to a man and in the closet until I was 20!

              Who wins the Grammys says nothing about talent. I would say that even if Gaga won, because what the Grammys say is what marketing and the media wants to push on us. Not the sexuality of beyonce, not the bizarreness of Gaga, but the purity and submissive womanliness of T Swift. I mean, look at Kanyegate. She stood there and took it from a man, like a good woman does, until someone had to rescue her. She’s a grown woman who acts like a 16 year old, and I don’t think that’s something to hold up. I just don’t. You can like something while recognizing it has little social value. Hell, I own a Pussycat Dolls album, and I’m not saying they are good for women, because i don’t think they are. For a lot of the same reasons, honestly.

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            5. Matt

              It wasn’t what Kanye said that made her speechless and caused her not to be able to respond, and she did try to start speaking again in a few seconds after he was done but MTV cut her off. I think that is allowable for anyone in that situation to be momentarily stunned at such an interruption. She said at the time and later that what stunned and rendered her speechless was she could not tell if the crowd was booing her or if they were booing Kanye. Can you tell me in all seriousness that if you were in the position of receiving what was an uprecedented award in front of not only all your peers and heroes but also live tv cameras that were broadcasting to the world, and were interrupted and told that you were undeserving of that award, and then to hear boos and think perhaps the crowd of your peers was in aggreement that you would immediately react with bravado and assertiveness? Especially when you went from the high and euphoric elation of winning and being applauded to feeling as if and being told that you were unworthy by someone you respected and admired? (because she had said several times in the past that she admired Kanye and hoped to work with him someday) I don’t think many people even ones more jaded and worldy would have reacted much faster or in a better manner.

              While her ideals may not be right for everyone or even many people, they do reflect the ideals and the realities of many others, so condemning her for those ideals because not everyone fits that mold is erroneous in my opinion, just as condemning Gaga or Beyonce or Kanye or any other artist because their music does not reflect the life or the thoughts or the ideals of some would be wrong. Thats all I am sayinh; her music and her lyrics have their place and their validity just as other artists have theirs and it is wrong to completely dismiss the value and worth of any of those artists, Taylor included. She may not represent you or your friend or your neighbor, but she represents herself, and while that should be enough to validate her, she also represents millions of others and gives them a voice for the emotions and experiences they live every day.

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            6. mon

              matt, the problem is that the people who she represents are not lacking for other similar role models, she is the status quo when it comes to conservative ‘normal’. so why should ticking all the privileged boxes be deserving of an award?

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          3. Matthew

            I saw a link posted of the graphic; I clicked through approx 20 billion times to get too a version where I could actually read the labels, and when I did, there was an article attached. I was going to post my comments, then got a little peeved at the comment that I then replied to.
            I’m one of the “Taylor’s not amazing. Gaga isn’t amazing either” crowd, though, so I’m also not really one of the “guys popping up to defend Taylor.”

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    3. Lauren

      THANK YOU.

      P.S. Riese, please re-use this article. Only, tweak it a little bit, and rewrite the name “Bella Swann” where Taylor’s name currently resides. Twilight is a much more dangerous, far more widespread piece of anti-feminist pop culture.

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      1. Jo

        YES.

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  69. for realz paps?

    Ok so I have to admit that I am a pretty big Taylor Swift fan. I can’t tell you her birthday or what her Mom’s name is, but when her songs come on the radio, I sing my heart out (and by radio, I mean the CD I play in my car everyday). That being said, I have never really thought about “taylor the product” and I would like to say a big thank you to Riese for what she brought to light. I don’t necessarily agree with everything in this article, but it has definitely challenged my thinking, and I really appreciate this. When I read the first couple of paragraphs I thought to myself “why is autostraddle wasting their time on this when there are real conservative douchebags that deserve these two pages on them” (Glenn Beck, I’m looking at you). However, it is also so important to look at the seemingly harmless representations of the conservative spectrum that infect our culture and media. Now, whether Taylor wants to or doesn’t want to be, she still represents that part of our country, and because she has their undivided attention, her message is important. If the future Sarah Palin’s of the world are 12 year old girls sitting at home right now listening to Taylor, I want Taylor telling them something significant. I hope for starters that as she matures, her lyrics do as well, and the girl-bashing, boy-obsessed verses will stop. I am also hopeful that Taylor will grow-up and maybe teach her fans a thing or two. Riese, thanks so much for this, it was simply fantastic.

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  70. Ad

    riese, just want to join with others here in thanking you for a really great essay. Thank you!

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  71. Suzieque

    Great essay! I don’t hate Swift but what I do hate is the type of music she represents…the manufactured illusion of a singer using the handy recording magic in the studio. I also believe her song writing is as simple minded as many of her fans. She is one dimensional & I guess for the teenies,she represents them in their one dimensional world but to think that the music industry seems to be ignoring music fans out of their teens, almost is insulting. I think the Grammy voters are simply fearful of Gaga because she is unique like no other at this time and she really can sing live. The same for P!nk! The same will happen to Adam Lambert. They will be fearful of his real talent, his uniqueness outside the usual pablum the music industry wants to feed us & of course, the fact that he’s gay. I honestly don’t see anything changing as long as people like to buy the “faux” anything that is served to them.

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  72. kaydee

    I love this. Is she really 20? I can’t believe that. I felt so bad for her because Kanye was mean to her, and she can’t sing live and so many things because I thought she was just a little girl. WTF?! That “Fifteen” song makes me feel like the most Jaded person in the world. Can anyone relate to that? Is this a giant run on sentence? Why did she win any Grammys? Did anyone notice that she gave the same “this is the story we’ll be telling blahblahrockingchair” speech twice? Anyone?

    I feel embarrassed and awkward for feeling sorry for a grown woman because someone was mean to her?

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    1. nine

      i thought she was like sixteen or something. and felt so bad when that happened. like, i just wanted to give her a big hug or stroke her hair.

      i mean, i still want to do that. but now in an awkward way…

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    2. roxy

      yes, this. I’m 20 too and thought she was just an immature 17 year old.

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  73. cleo

    So…. this article is basically the bees’ knees. it effectively gives voice to the feelings inside my chest piece about this whole situation.

    As Riese systematically broke down all the reasons why Swizzle Stick didn’t deserve the win, i felt like i was in high school again (the place Tay Swizz needs to constantly revert to if she wants to continue having a lucrative career), watching someone get told the f*ck off. :)

    Nothing about the article was mean, it was just truthful, and let’s be honest: the truth hurts sometimes.

    I know J. Simps kinda started out her career being all “pure” and “virginal”, but even she had to give up that ghost. They all have to; it’s apart of life. I just wonder what’s gonna happen when Swift turns 21 and can’t legitimately be seen/taken seriously as a pure-hearted, innocent thought-ed, naive teenage girl, with more emotions than an all-queer/all-closeted slumber party.

    …Shit is gonna get serious. Oh well, she won’t have to cry on her guitar anymore, she can just do it on her grammy.

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  74. RachelwasHere

    I think Jen’s blog http://flyfreebabybee.blogspot.com/2010/02/taylor-swift-and-my-own-body-image.html#comments summed up better than I could the problem of the Taylor Product (whatever talent Taylor the person may have being irrelevant to the point).

    Thank you.

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  75. Bri

    So, I was at the gay bar last night, as we do, watching the drag show.

    LO AND BEHOLD. A Justin Bieber drag king performance.

    Which automatically made me think of this GLORIOUS article I have forced all of my friends to read.

    I screamed like a little fan girl when I heard that damn “One Time” song come on and a little Justin Bieber baby clone come out in a hoodie and jeans. And point at every lesbian during the “Me plus you” line. I SCREAMED. I could not contain myself.

    And I tried to think about Taylor Swift winning her grammy for her musical melodies and think about a Bieber grammy. I tried to compare them in my head. Do I just not like her as a person? Or is this a legitimate distaste I have for her music and an undying belief that she received an undue award? Would I defend Justin Bieber?

    And the answer I arrived at was NO. As adorable as the Bieb is, no matter how popular his songs get, no matter how freaking adorable he is, he’s not grammy worthy. If you look at the total package, and not just numbers, Justin Bieber and Taylor Swift are both unworthy of artistic praise. I think the only difference is that JB can legitimately actually sing.

    I can’t say anything that hasn’t been said before. Summing it up, they’re both completely unoriginal in every way. I think that the irritation is that boring mediocrity is being lauded…especially when there are other artists that are going outside the box (and artists that can sing in key.)

    We need some cortisone for this Taylor Swift rash.*

    *and that cortisone is….Lady Gaga.

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  76. Lena

    This is pretty much the best takedown ever. Gaga4ever. (It helps that she loves the gays.)

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  77. Jennifer

    I love this article SO MUCH.

    I find it amusing that so many of the people defending Taylor are men, too. She’s “pure” so stop beating off to her or you’re going to hell, guys. :P

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    1. nycamber2

      yeah um lol, can we talk about how all the taylor defenders are men??? defending the image, really.

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    2. Matt

      I don’t know about any other guys that have defended her, but I suspect you are right and some do think she is pure and get themselves off to her. However, I don’t believe she is pure or even a virgin, and I’ve never gotten myself off to her nor even wanted to. I just don’t think she is as detrimental an influence to her audience of teen girls as some seem to, and I think her music has merit and has it’s own place in society, and is deserving of the awards she has won, regardless of her purity or lack thereof and regardless of the image she projects as an average young woman. It’s sad that men are regarded (rightfully in most cases) as being incapable of seeing beauty and value in a female without seeing her as a sexual object, but there are men who are capable of doing so.

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    3. Steve

      I love the assumption and close-mindedness of this comment. Just cause we’re men defending a young, beautiful girl, must mean we’re beating off to her. Yeah!

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    4. YoungMachete

      To be honest, I think it’s kind of irrelevant whether the defenders of TS are men or women. As long as they are providing some sort of intelligent counterpoint to the arguments presented (ie Matt’s earlier comments) and are willing to engage in reasonable debate, I think they should be welcomed, regardless of gender. Isn’t that what this whole equality shebang is all about?

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  78. TC

    Here’s the thing: most of these articles discussing, defending, and attacking Taylor Swift are not written by the people who buy her cds. The majority of the people who buy her cds, and constitute her biggest fanbase, are teenage girls and younger. I can’t speak for everybody, but I can speak for myself as a teenage girl myself with friends who did (and didn’t) like Taylor Swift.

    My friends and I liked Taylor Swift’s music, her lyrics, her music videos. We liked belting out her songs in the car and going to her lavish but reasonably priced concerts. Taylor Swift spoke to us a new generation of girls, a generation of girls who still wanted dreams but not to be doormats. We wanted romance, and love, and all of those things, but we also wanted to be able to take a role in that for ourselves, by writing a song for the boy in “Hey Stephen” instead of the boy writing songs for us as might be traditional, or by taking revenge on an ex-boyfriend like in “Forever and Always.” Taylor Swift represented the meld of modern romanticism and feminism, and she looked good doing it. It’s tough to be a teenage girl these days, as we are constantly told what we should and shouldn’t look like, what activities we should and shouldn’t do, and who should and shouldn’t be our role models–and that’s just by our parents, not to mention the media (see: this article). Taylor Swift affirmed our self-worth no matter how we looked or what clique we fell into in school, empowered us to stand up for ourselves with boys, but also told us it was okay to dream sometimes. Taylor Swift also spoke to us as individuals and served as a role model on that level. For example, she recession-priced concert tickets in an age of Hannah Montana, so that nobody would have to pay more than $50 to go to her huge, arena concerts and most people only paid $20. That is a member of the mainstream media who understands the problems in a teenage girl’s budget, as opposed to all those sections in Seventeen that tell us to “splurge” on a big-ticket item like a fancy Ralph Lauren bracelet.

    This all being said, I’m not necessarily going to weigh in on whether Taylor Swift determined a Grammy for her efforts. More experienced and knowledgeable music critics have already weighed in on that front, and have generally found her less innovative and musically talented than the other nominees. That’s okay, I don’t dispute that. I do dispute that somehow Beyonce is a better feminist role model than Taylor Swift, a woman who made a wildly successful music video all about the continuing pressure for girls to buy into the traditional marriage institution and value a ring on their finger more than love and companionship. I have always disputed the mainstream media telling teenage girls like me who we should like and value as role models. I know that there are plenty of teenage girls who like Taylor Swift, and plenty that don’t. That’s fine. What bothers me are demeaning, condescending articles like this one.

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    1. JentheJew

      For example, she recession-priced concert tickets in an age of Hannah Montana, so that nobody would have to pay more than $50 to go to her huge, arena concerts and most people only paid $20.

      This, even though I do not like her, makes me appreciate herthinking about her fans. My father is in music, and is of the opinion that concert tickets should rarely, if ever go above 30 bucks. So am I.

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    2. Lexi

      First of all, this is very very well written. Thanks for that, I’m a teenaged girl as well and it’s hard to negate the stereotype that we all talk like illiterate shallow idiots (“Uhmmm like, I like taylor are u shud 2″)

      However, as I appreciate your point of view, as I said above I am a teenaged girl as well, and Taylor Swift’s lyrics don’t speak to me. You and I are part of the same generation of girls, except I’m part of a different breed. I’m gay, and I’m not afraid to say it, and I think there is more to high school than boys with cars (or girls for that matter) and I resent how juvenile and innocent Taylor says we are in “fifteen”
      While I agree with you that you can be a feminist enjoy Taylor’s music, and I’m glad you have found an artist that speaks to you.

      I respect your opinion of her, please respect mine. This article is hardy condescending, what’s condescending is assuming that all teen aged girls have the same experiences.

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      1. TC

        As a girl who also identifies as queer, I can assure you that I didn’t mean it in a sense that “all girls should like boys” or anything like that. In addition, I am fully aware that teenage girls have different experiences. My point was not meant to insult teenage girls (or others) who don’t like T-Swift, as I have many friends who do not. I apologize if you felt that I was implying that all girls had the same experiences or that I did not respect your opinion.

        However, I disagree on your final point. This article is extremely condescending. Just look at the title: “Why Taylor Swift Offends Little Monsters, Feminists, and Weirdos.” Catchy it may be, but fair to little monsters, feminists, and weirdos it is not. I am a huge Lady Gaga fan and a pretty big feminist. Telling me that Taylor Swift is fundamentally incompatible with the values I “should” be having as a Lady Gaga fan and a feminist is pretty insulting and condescending.

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  79. bizzle

    Late to the game, but wanted to add, Michelle Branch’s single “Sooner or Later” was about her experience in high school of being a guy’s best friend. But instead of thinking, “one day he’ll realize his mistake and we can be happy together,” her message was, “one day he’ll realize his mistake and whoops! I’ve moved on suckah!”

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  80. Jessica

    This is magnificent!!! These graphics were SPOT-ON!!! OMG the weeping eye for crying was just SO PERFECT!!!
    Like you, I was resistant to my own Taylor-hating. I think she’s sooo cute and reminds me of a lot of sweet, Christian small-town kids I went to school with.
    However, some young friends of mine love Taylor, and this makes me want to encourage them to rethink many of her messages. I will pass on yr article!
    I think the vanity in so many of Taylor’s songs must also be addressed. In her first album she is always singing about how blue her eyes are and how pretty her dress / jeans are. The unexamined grandiosity of the child. The message is that all Abigail has is her hymen, yet the blueness of Taylor’s eyes (combined with the patriarchal approval of the omniscent, omnipotent Daddy) will get here anywhere. I’m not sure that she should be giving lyrical advice to 15-year olds when she herself is a rawther immature 20-year old.

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  81. Lexi

    OKay in this music she picks an under-ripe cherry off a tree in a white dress, just saying.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xg3vE8Ie_E (2:37)

    REALLY PAPI?

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  82. Steve

    Pperhaps someone can point out to me where the proof is that these songs of Taylor’s are true life stories. Plenty of musicians have written hit songs about stories they’ve never even experienced in their life. For the purpose of creating music that fans can relate to. But I’d need to do more research then I’d care to do, to actually continue with this.

    But more importantly, I keep reading these comments and it still comes back to lady gaga. always about lady gaga. I think Matt made a good point here by says that just as Gaga speaks for the people that support and admire her, Taylor is trying to do the same for young girls and teens.

    He also made a good point with this whole selection:
    “Those people that say she is undeserving of what she has achieved and the awards others have voted her worthy of seem just as guilty as those in the past have been of devaluing and dehumanizing the those that came from Africa and the American Indian and yes, gays and lesbians. The scale and magnitude of the offense is less but the basic premise is still the same. If Taylor is true to herself, then to try to take away her worth as that person and her value and right to sing about it and project it in her behaviour and talk, is the same as undermining her value as a person in being who she is by nature. To carry it further, then to say that all those that love her music and see her as someone to be admired are wrong for doing so, when she echoes what they feel and believe and aspire to, is to say they should not follow their basic natures either.”

    But I suppose what is going to happen is that, no one will read or acknowledge any worthy point I’ve made (just like what happened with my last post) and instead, proceed to make comments on how I’m a guy defending Taylor and how I spend my free time jerking off to her.

    TYPICAL. RESPONSE.

    By the way, I’m not a straight guy so instead of dismissing everything I say, why do you start acknowledging the other side of this story.

    I mean I’d still like to see a Gaga acceptance speech where she thanks the other nominees. I’ve searched all over for one but can’t find it anywhere. I even quoted the 2 thank you’s that I could find and no one seems to have anything to say…

    I’ll take that to mean that I’m right!

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    1. JentheJew

      I come bearing Google

      From Time’s interview:

      “Love Story” is actually about a guy that I almost dated. But when I introduced him to my family and my friends, they all said they didn’t like him. All of them! For the first time, I could relate to that Romeo-and-Juliet situation where the only people who wanted them to be together were them. That’s the most romantic song I’ve written, and it’s not even about a person I really dated.

      When I sit down, I say to myself, “O.K., who is this about? What would I say to him right now if I could?”

      From Wiki:

      During the same interview with Ellen DeGeneres, Swift revealed that the heartbreak song “Forever & Always” on her album Fearless, recorded in late September/early October 2008, was inspired by Jonas.[113]

      From a radio show interview:

      “I’ve written about [the split], and I like to write about my life … that’s just how I deal with things,”

      Whether she lived these feelings or not isn’t the issue, but dude, that took me all of five minutes to find.

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  83. Matt

    mon (member)
    February 6, 2010

    11:20 pm

    matt, the problem is that the people who she represents are not lacking for other similar role models, she is the status quo when it comes to conservative ‘normal’. so why should ticking all the privileged boxes be deserving of an award?

    Mon, I couldnt find a way to directly respond to your comment so I copied and pasted it here. You say she is the status quo for the conservative normal and seem to indicate that is the reason she does not deserve awards. You also say that the people she represents are not lacking for similar role models. The problem with this is that the people she represents choose her because she speaks most clearly and most directly to and about who they are and what they feel. That is why she deserves her awards, beacause she has a way of speaking her own life and feelings so that it gives voice to the same in all of her audience; and I know some here have made comments and probably feel that it is inappropriate for grown men to speak up for a 20 year old woman, but I speak up for anyone whom I think is being unfairly judged and criticized. Judge me for that if you wish, but that won’t stop me from giving my support whenever and wherever I find people that I think need it.

    Saying she does not desever her awards because some people feel another artist was more deserving is faulty reasoning in my opinion. And it seems to me that instead of being status quo and being the popular choice, she is actually the unpopular choice judging by all the media and news articles that have been written in the past week decrying her being awarded Album of the year. The popular choice and the status quo seems to me to be you have to be outrageous and be perceived as “edgy” and “daring” and “breaking boundaries” like Lady Gaga or Adam Lambert. They are no longer against the norm, the consensus seems to be that they are the people’s choice, since all the outrage has been directed at Swift for “taking away Gaga’s award”

    I would have been fine with Gaga or someone else winning, it would not have bothered me in the least, and I wold not have felt compelled to attack them or their fans because I like Gaga and think she is a unique and powerful performer and voice in today’s music and would have deserved the win as well. Adam Lambert hasn’t done enough to really judge what his impact will be, it will be interesting to see in the future.

    And whether you feel Swift’s music is status quo or represents the “conservative norm,” that in itself is no reason to say she doesnt deserve what she’s won. She won on the basis of the people she’s influence with her music, from every age and race and sex, and on the strength of the reviews of her album and by vote of the recording academy of her peers and by those with active interest in the music industry.

    why should she be less deserving to have the vote box clicked next to her name just because she represents a portion of society which has different lifestyles than those here, or those on other blogs and forums, that’s my question. That would be like me saying a black man doesnt deserve my vote in an election because he’s black and I’m white and he can’t understand life from my white perspective. It would be wrong and narrow-minded and ill-informed of me. Or to say a woman doesnt deserve my vote because she will only speak and support causes for women, and will ignore the male part of her constituency.

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  84. Steph G

    Hey, I’ve been reading for a while but don’t think I ever worked up the nerve to comment before.

    This is a great analysis of all the things that make Taylor Swift irritate a lot of people without us being able to identify why. Until now!

    Um, one teeny little thing, though? Creationists and Christian Scientists =/= the same thing. Sorry, but that one statement bothered me, even if it was supposed to be funny… (if it was, cool), but I just don’t want my religion misrepresented. (Evolution-supporting Christian Scientist right here).

    Anyways, great article!

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  85. overlord

    THANK. GOD. I thought I was the only one in the ENTIRE WORLD who noticed that “You Belong With Me” was a total ripoff of “Girl Next Door.”

    Of course, this is kind of an unpopular opinion — Taylor Swift is something of an untouchable figure these days in music, it seems.

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  86. rockergrrrl

    @overlord
    I noticed that too! Once a friend posted that quote on her AIM profile and i thought to myself “is that just some rehashing of that old pop song?”

    I listen to alot of punk rock/older/angry music, while much of my generation listens to taylor and the like. I’ve always enjoyed unconventional, “weird” music, such as PJ harvey, sleater-kinney, etc. rather than the typical mainstream fare. I never found it interesting.

    Lady gaga is great too!

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  87. i want the 8 mins of my life back i spent reading this article

    this article’s point is immediately invalid as soon as the writer uses Beyonce & Lady Gaga as the measuring sticks used to determine the talent level of current outstanding performers. what are you, 17? great music doesn’t get nominated for Grammy’s and everyone knows that.

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  88. Ron

    who is lady gaga? someone told me she has a penis.

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    1. YoungMachete

      OMG FOR SIRIUS??? This totally affects my opinion of her and her music! The status of a person’s genitalia has always been the deciding factor in the way I judge a person, you see.

      I really love this joke, you know? It just shows that no matter how ‘equal’ society is today, a woman will never be able to adopt traditionally male traits such as sexual dominance and assertiveness, and still retain her vagina.

      Penis or no, I’d totes ride her disco stick.

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  89. microwave

    Wow, reading this article makes me feel revolutinonary!!!!! Incidentally, I was the one who introduced Taylor Swift to my friends, and to my surprise (more like horror), they love her!! I didn’t hold much grudge against Swift, and never had until the Grammy’s. Her songs were okay to listen to, but the on-going lyrics and themes about boys are very nauseating and her songs never made me feel connected. Taylor Swift is very popular in my country and all, but I don’t think she should get the Grammy’s IMO.
    I really agree about the part about her being a feminist’s greatest nightmare. Her songs are highschool-y and I have never liked how she portrayed women in her songs and MV. This also brings up Avril Lavigne’s Girlfriend MV, which I dislike too. LOL

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    1. Linda

      Right on. Idealizing boys is one thing, bashing other girls is another!

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  90. michelle

    I agree everything concerning Taylor Swift, but I don’t believe Gaga is the better alternative. Regarding the award, probably, but when it comes to positive female role-models, there is so much more out there than just Lady Gaga.

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    1. nine

      yeah really. i wish we were more like england in that way. like….can they look beyond top 40 plz?
      fuck top 40.

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      1. michelle

        Even within the mainstream we’ve got better examples than Lady Gaga. For example, Regina Spektor. She’s an excellent, empowering female with smart lyrics. Her song-writing is filled with literary references and empowering messages. I’d take her over Gaga as role-model any day.

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        1. JentheJew

          Regina Spektor is like, my dream-wife. We both are Russian Jewish even. Regina, why can’t you seeeeee, you belong with meeeeeeee.

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  91. felix

    You all are just jealous of her success. Admit it.

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    1. nine

      i am jealous of taylor swift’s success.

      barf.

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  92. samantha johnson

    this article was fucking brilliant, and so on point. i can’t even elaborate, because it was just about perfect, and with the added humor–even better than perfect.

    and where can i find your article on adam lambert? (you said you wrote one already?) i’m interested in that one too.

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  93. Kristina

    I agree with the top 40 comment. Our community should worry about more promising and inspiring artists, stop obsessing over Lady Gaga and Taylor Swift. Talk about artists that will bring me back to this site…

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    1. Kristina

      “stop obsessing over Lady Gaga…”

      Whaaaat?! you do a disservice to our name! jk.jk.

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  94. Indie