Comments on: The L Word is "Loads of Literates Loathed the Last L Word." http://www.autostraddle.com/the-l-word-is-loads-of-literates-loathed-the-last-l-word/ The World's Most Popular Independently-Owned Website for Lesbian, Bisexual and Queer Women Mon, 13 Feb 2012 15:14:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: panoulihttp://www.autostraddle.com/the-l-word-is-loads-of-literates-loathed-the-last-l-word/#comment-6018 panouli Wed, 11 Mar 2009 19:29:52 +0000 http://www.autostraddle.com/?p=675#comment-6018 Toward the end they really lost track of whether or not they were trying to tell stories that would touch us or stories that would entertain us. Dana dies and it's sad. Jenny dies and it's 'lol they killed off that really mean character'. Toward the end they really lost track of whether or not they were trying to tell stories that would touch us or stories that would entertain us. Dana dies and it’s sad. Jenny dies and it’s ‘lol they killed off that really mean character’.

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]]> By: Sarahhttp://www.autostraddle.com/the-l-word-is-loads-of-literates-loathed-the-last-l-word/#comment-5976 Sarah Tue, 10 Mar 2009 23:08:44 +0000 http://www.autostraddle.com/?p=675#comment-5976 It just seems like this show employs the “it’s real” defense carelessly and arbitrarily to defend irresponsible plot choices seemingly chosen moreso for shock value and lack of creativity than for any supreme artistic purpose or true drive to tell important stories.That goes for visibility in general with The L Word. One second it's "Oh, this is the first show about lezzies everrrr" and then it's "Oh, well I just wanted to tell myyy stories, which are about a select group of women in LA." It just seems like this show employs the “it’s real” defense carelessly and arbitrarily to defend irresponsible plot choices seemingly chosen moreso for shock value and lack of creativity than for any supreme artistic purpose or true drive to tell important stories.

That goes for visibility in general with The L Word. One second it’s “Oh, this is the first show about lezzies everrrr” and then it’s “Oh, well I just wanted to tell myyy stories, which are about a select group of women in LA.”

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]]> By: riesehttp://www.autostraddle.com/the-l-word-is-loads-of-literates-loathed-the-last-l-word/#comment-5934 riese Tue, 10 Mar 2009 19:47:46 +0000 http://www.autostraddle.com/?p=675#comment-5934 It just seems like this show employs the "it's real" defense carelessly and arbitrarily to defend irresponsible plot choices seemingly chosen moreso for shock value and lack of creativity than for any supreme artistic purpose or true drive to tell important stories.When Dana dies, we are supposed to feel that pretty people die too, and cancer kills -- but when jenny is murdered, were supposed to feel like "oh, it's television! Television isn't supposed to be like real life, it's heightened!"IMHO. :-) It just seems like this show employs the “it’s real” defense carelessly and arbitrarily to defend irresponsible plot choices seemingly chosen moreso for shock value and lack of creativity than for any supreme artistic purpose or true drive to tell important stories.

When Dana dies, we are supposed to feel that pretty people die too, and cancer kills — but when jenny is murdered, were supposed to feel like “oh, it’s television! Television isn’t supposed to be like real life, it’s heightened!”

IMHO. :-)

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]]> By: panoulihttp://www.autostraddle.com/the-l-word-is-loads-of-literates-loathed-the-last-l-word/#comment-5929 panouli Tue, 10 Mar 2009 19:01:44 +0000 http://www.autostraddle.com/?p=675#comment-5929 It wasn't so much Dana dying that was the issue, but the way they handled it. It all happened so quickly and seemed way too random, I felt. I thought it was a good storyline that didn't have to be restricted to just one season. It wasn’t so much Dana dying that was the issue, but the way they handled it. It all happened so quickly and seemed way too random, I felt.
I thought it was a good storyline that didn’t have to be restricted to just one season.

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]]> By: Leahhttp://www.autostraddle.com/the-l-word-is-loads-of-literates-loathed-the-last-l-word/#comment-5928 Leah Tue, 10 Mar 2009 18:15:16 +0000 http://www.autostraddle.com/?p=675#comment-5928 I think Dana died because PEOPLE REALLY DIE. Cancer isn't just for ugly people, useless people, unimportant people. I think what they were saying was that it happens, it's life. Yes she was awesome and cute and funny and we loved her, but that's just it--cancer doesn't care. I thought it was very realistic to do this storyline (though they did admit to the illness being sped up because of time constraints, which was abnormal.) But really, not everyone gets cured and it's a fact of life that people we love die. I'm not trying to say you're wrong, and I respect your opinion. I just like that it was real. I think Dana died because PEOPLE REALLY DIE. Cancer isn’t just for ugly people, useless people, unimportant people. I think what they were saying was that it happens, it’s life. Yes she was awesome and cute and funny and we loved her, but that’s just it–cancer doesn’t care. I thought it was very realistic to do this storyline (though they did admit to the illness being sped up because of time constraints, which was abnormal.) But really, not everyone gets cured and it’s a fact of life that people we love die.
I’m not trying to say you’re wrong, and I respect your opinion. I just like that it was real.

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]]> By: bridgethttp://www.autostraddle.com/the-l-word-is-loads-of-literates-loathed-the-last-l-word/#comment-5927 bridget Tue, 10 Mar 2009 17:56:35 +0000 http://www.autostraddle.com/?p=675#comment-5927 the interrogation tape seemed more like an homage to tina's chin issues - i turned it off after 45 seconds, so i missed that whole Sister thing! gross!!! and also - not surprisingly -- ALREADY BEEN DONE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZXnEXhnsEE the interrogation tape seemed more like an homage to tina’s chin issues – i turned it off after 45 seconds, so i missed that whole Sister thing! gross!!! and also – not surprisingly — ALREADY BEEN DONE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZXnEXhnsEE

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]]> By: Sarahhttp://www.autostraddle.com/the-l-word-is-loads-of-literates-loathed-the-last-l-word/#comment-5925 Sarah Tue, 10 Mar 2009 17:32:02 +0000 http://www.autostraddle.com/?p=675#comment-5925 Agreed! The whole "keep watching, Carmen's coming back!" thing, dragging all the loyal fans along... and then that? AS IF!!! Completely ridiculous and completely manipulative.Which was, of course, the theme for this whole season.I have this picture in my mind of Ilene as this weird egomaniac who either completely doesn't care what her fans think, or is so completely genuinely delusional that she doesn't realize. Either completely delusional, or completely full of shit. "I think season 6 is our best yet"? Didn't she say that somewhere in an interview? etc etc.REALLY ILENE? REALLY???? Agreed! The whole “keep watching, Carmen’s coming back!” thing, dragging all the loyal fans along… and then that? AS IF!!! Completely ridiculous and completely manipulative.

Which was, of course, the theme for this whole season.

I have this picture in my mind of Ilene as this weird egomaniac who either completely doesn’t care what her fans think, or is so completely genuinely delusional that she doesn’t realize. Either completely delusional, or completely full of shit. “I think season 6 is our best yet”? Didn’t she say that somewhere in an interview? etc etc.

REALLY ILENE? REALLY????

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]]> By: Carlsonhttp://www.autostraddle.com/the-l-word-is-loads-of-literates-loathed-the-last-l-word/#comment-5924 Carlson Tue, 10 Mar 2009 16:47:48 +0000 http://www.autostraddle.com/?p=675#comment-5924 Seriously WTF - I mean come on. I can accept the Finale as is, I mean did we ever expect anything less from IFC. I think not, but Tinas Interrogation tape - Really Papi Really. Lets take one of the very few pure moments from the show (Bette and Tina, Tina being Bettes first and all that jazz) and then take it back and say that Tinas first time was with her SISTER for 3 fracken years. Again I say Really Papi Really. I mean cool give us some character background on one of the most loved characters awesome but to give us the poetry spheel and then that Tina sister was her first and then cut. Thats it, really the last scene we see of Tina is declaring her Sister as her first...Ok I need to go vent in an avenue now where I don't have to worry about spelling or grammer. UGH - Anyone else want to round up a posie and go kick some Chakin booty until she fixes this across the board mistake!!! Seriously WTF – I mean come on. I can accept the Finale as is, I mean did we ever expect anything less from IFC. I think not, but Tinas Interrogation tape – Really Papi Really. Lets take one of the very few pure moments from the show (Bette and Tina, Tina being Bettes first and all that jazz) and then take it back and say that Tinas first time was with her SISTER for 3 fracken years. Again I say Really Papi Really. I mean cool give us some character background on one of the most loved characters awesome but to give us the poetry spheel and then that Tina sister was her first and then cut. Thats it, really the last scene we see of Tina is declaring her Sister as her first…Ok I need to go vent in an avenue now where I don’t have to worry about spelling or grammer. UGH – Anyone else want to round up a posie and go kick some Chakin booty until she fixes this across the board mistake!!!

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]]> By: texhttp://www.autostraddle.com/the-l-word-is-loads-of-literates-loathed-the-last-l-word/#comment-5923 tex Tue, 10 Mar 2009 15:51:02 +0000 http://www.autostraddle.com/?p=675#comment-5923 Before the episode even started I was angry because of the interviews that were given and the reasoning for Dana dying. Something to the extent of "Well we couldn't help it, she had cancer". She only had cancer because IFC gave it to her! I was disappointed both because of the lack of anything actually happening, but also because of the hype surrounding Carmen coming back on. Without any actual interaction with the characters, I feel like I've been cheated. Before the episode even started I was angry because of the interviews that were given and the reasoning for Dana dying. Something to the extent of “Well we couldn’t help it, she had cancer”. She only had cancer because IFC gave it to her! I was disappointed both because of the lack of anything actually happening, but also because of the hype surrounding Carmen coming back on. Without any actual interaction with the characters, I feel like I’ve been cheated.

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]]> By: alexhttp://www.autostraddle.com/the-l-word-is-loads-of-literates-loathed-the-last-l-word/#comment-5920 alex Tue, 10 Mar 2009 11:12:08 +0000 http://www.autostraddle.com/?p=675#comment-5920 I would just like to mention that my best friend who lives in California called me up last night just to rant with anger about this episode and the whole season in general. It was awesome. I would just like to mention that my best friend who lives in California called me up last night just to rant with anger about this episode and the whole season in general.
It was awesome.

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]]> By: panoulihttp://www.autostraddle.com/the-l-word-is-loads-of-literates-loathed-the-last-l-word/#comment-5919 panouli Tue, 10 Mar 2009 09:39:42 +0000 http://www.autostraddle.com/?p=675#comment-5919 I still haven't watched the finale.I'm dreading it. 'Worst hour in television history' and all.Probably I'll just smoke before I watch it, but that also has a fifty percent chance of heightening the shit rather than dulling it.Oh well! I still haven’t watched the finale.

I’m dreading it. ‘Worst hour in television history’ and all.

Probably I’ll just smoke before I watch it, but that also has a fifty percent chance of heightening the shit rather than dulling it.

Oh well!

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]]> By: Calmaxhttp://www.autostraddle.com/the-l-word-is-loads-of-literates-loathed-the-last-l-word/#comment-5917 Calmax Tue, 10 Mar 2009 05:56:40 +0000 http://www.autostraddle.com/?p=675#comment-5917 Ok here it is: To the tune of "Come On Eileen" by Dexy's Midnite Runners, here it is (I feel damn inspired):"Come On Ilene (Chaiken"Come On, IleneCome On, Ilene!Poor old Jenny Shecht., sounded sad upon "Lez Girls" wrap; Broke a million hearts who are homo... Oh our mothers cried, rant along, who can blame them?You've screwed (You're screwed up) Es·chewed (OUR STORIES) Now I must say more than ever.(Come on, Ilene!) Toora, loora, toora loorye aye. We gonna represent les-bi----annnnns.Come on, Ilene, Oh I swear (who knows what you mean?) at this moment You screwed up ev'rything. Viewers in distress, My thoughts, I confess, Verge on dirty. Ah, Come on Ilene!Come ON, Ilene!These people 'round here Wear beaten down dreams sunk in a hopes-dashed face NOT resigned t-wat (to what) LWord's fate is, But not us (No, never!), No, not us (No, never!), We are far too smart and clever.(We Remember...)Toora, loora, toora, loorye, aye. Ilene, I'll hum this tune forever...........Come on, Ilene, Do you care? (What we've seen?) Ah come on let's... Throw away everything, The sexy season 1, Ilene....how it's done Ah come on let's, ah come on, Ilene, Pleassse …Come On, Ilene, What the HEY? Come On, Ilene, Threw it away...Now it's all done (toora), Now it's no fun(toora) how( toora), Oh! Ilene. Said, you've (You) thrown (toora)away... (it's strange all good feeling's been blown), So sad (to the viewers) (about how we feel)...Now (toora) I (toora) must (toora) say (toora) more (toora) than ever, Things 'round here don't change.I said, Too-bad (toobad), LWORDers, too-bad(LWorders), loorye (toora), aye (toora, toora, toora).Come on, Ilene, Oh I swear (what I mean) at this moment. You've killed ev'rything. You've caused distress, my thoughts (I confess) verge on the dirty.I wanna cry now Ilene!.Come on, Ilene, Oh I swear (what I mean) at this moment... You've screwed up ev'rything. You've caused such a mess, Oh, my thoughts (I confess) verge on the dirty.Come on, Ilene, oh, ho, ho, (what I mean) oh, ho, ho ...*SIGH* Ok here it is: To the tune of “Come On Eileen” by Dexy’s Midnite Runners, here it is (I feel damn inspired):

“Come On Ilene (Chaiken”

Come On, Ilene

Come On, Ilene!

Poor old Jenny Shecht., sounded sad upon “Lez Girls” wrap;
Broke a million hearts who are homo…
Oh our mothers cried, rant along, who can blame them?

You’ve screwed (You’re screwed up)
Es·chewed (OUR STORIES)
Now I must say more than ever.

(Come on, Ilene!)
Toora, loora, toora loorye aye.
We gonna represent les-bi—-annnnns.

Come on, Ilene,
Oh I swear (who knows what you mean?) at this moment
You screwed up ev’rything.
Viewers in distress,
My thoughts, I confess,
Verge on dirty.
Ah, Come on Ilene!

Come ON, Ilene!

These people ’round here
Wear beaten down dreams sunk in a hopes-dashed face
NOT resigned t-wat (to what) LWord’s fate is,
But not us (No, never!),
No, not us (No, never!),
We are far too smart and clever.

(We Remember…)

Toora, loora, toora, loorye, aye.
Ilene, I’ll hum this tune forever………..

Come on, Ilene,
Do you care? (What we’ve seen?)
Ah come on let’s…
Throw away everything,
The sexy season 1,
Ilene….how it’s done
Ah come on let’s, ah come on, Ilene,
Pleassse …

Come On, Ilene, What the HEY?
Come On, Ilene, Threw it away…

Now it’s all done (toora), Now it’s no fun(toora) how( toora),
Oh! Ilene.
Said, you’ve (You) thrown (toora)away… (it’s strange all good feeling’s been blown),
So sad (to the viewers) (about how we feel)…

Now (toora) I (toora) must (toora) say (toora) more (toora) than ever,
Things ’round here don’t change.

I said, Too-bad (toobad), LWORDers, too-bad(LWorders), loorye (toora), aye (toora, toora, toora).

Come on, Ilene,
Oh I swear (what I mean) at this moment.
You’ve killed ev’rything.
You’ve caused distress,
my thoughts (I confess)
verge on the dirty.

I wanna cry now Ilene!.

Come on, Ilene,
Oh I swear (what I mean) at this moment…
You’ve screwed up ev’rything.
You’ve caused such a mess,
Oh, my thoughts (I confess)
verge on the dirty.

Come on, Ilene,
oh, ho, ho, (what I mean) oh, ho, ho …

*SIGH*

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