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	<title>Comments on: Read a F*cking Book: &quot;Odd Girls &amp; Twilight Lovers: A History of Lesbian Life in 20th-Century America&quot;</title>
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		<title>By: Annon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Annon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2012 12:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for posting this!  Odd Girls is one of my favorites too, although I was kind of disappointed that it&#039;s not always as well documented as it might be.  

It&#039;s one of the few books I&#039;ve found that provides an overview of lesbians in the US in the 20th century (but as Riese points out, Faderman acknowledges that the documentary record often limits her to more elite, white women).  However, Faderman also jumps to conclusions that aren&#039;t fully justified by her footnotes, especially when she&#039;s trying to make the case that that a person or goups of people liked women or identified as lesbians.  While on a personal level I&#039;m pleased to read that someone preferred being with women or identified as a lesbian, as a history buff I&#039;m always a little concerned when queer historians don&#039;t hold themselves to the documentary standards of other writers, since this ultimately undermines their credibility in the larger academic world.

But fwiw, if you like early 20th century women&#039;s history, Blanche Wiesen Cook&#039;s two-volume series on Eleanor Roosevelt is fantastic.  Cook created a stir when these books came out because she suggested that Eleanor had a long-term relationship with Lorena Hickock, an AP reporter, and that many of Eleanor&#039;s closest friends were also lesbians.  Critics had a harder time with this than with Faderman&#039;s books (even though Cook is also an out lesbian) because Cook&#039;s research and conclusions are so well documented. 

http://www.nytimes.com/books/99/07/04/specials/cook.html 

Anyways, just my 2 cents worth...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for posting this!  Odd Girls is one of my favorites too, although I was kind of disappointed that it&#8217;s not always as well documented as it might be.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s one of the few books I&#8217;ve found that provides an overview of lesbians in the US in the 20th century (but as Riese points out, Faderman acknowledges that the documentary record often limits her to more elite, white women).  However, Faderman also jumps to conclusions that aren&#8217;t fully justified by her footnotes, especially when she&#8217;s trying to make the case that that a person or goups of people liked women or identified as lesbians.  While on a personal level I&#8217;m pleased to read that someone preferred being with women or identified as a lesbian, as a history buff I&#8217;m always a little concerned when queer historians don&#8217;t hold themselves to the documentary standards of other writers, since this ultimately undermines their credibility in the larger academic world.</p>
<p>But fwiw, if you like early 20th century women&#8217;s history, Blanche Wiesen Cook&#8217;s two-volume series on Eleanor Roosevelt is fantastic.  Cook created a stir when these books came out because she suggested that Eleanor had a long-term relationship with Lorena Hickock, an AP reporter, and that many of Eleanor&#8217;s closest friends were also lesbians.  Critics had a harder time with this than with Faderman&#8217;s books (even though Cook is also an out lesbian) because Cook&#8217;s research and conclusions are so well documented. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/books/99/07/04/specials/cook.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/books/99/07/04/specials/cook.html</a> </p>
<p>Anyways, just my 2 cents worth&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dani</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 12:35:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[and now I have another book to add to my to-read list.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and now I have another book to add to my to-read list.</p>
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		<title>By: giles</title>
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		<dc:creator>giles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2012 21:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you so so muuuuch. I constantly set out to write reasearchpapers zeroing in on queer women in North American History and spend literally weeeeeks combing the internets and libraries and every queer in a 2k radius for primary and secondary resources, and bloody hell its v. needle-haystack, PULLALTERNATIVELIFESTYLEHAIROUT-inducing, etc. Like serzzz, such a task. But this book is fantastic and I am totes hoping that during this theme month more queer history lit is highlighted :D]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you so so muuuuch. I constantly set out to write reasearchpapers zeroing in on queer women in North American History and spend literally weeeeeks combing the internets and libraries and every queer in a 2k radius for primary and secondary resources, and bloody hell its v. needle-haystack, PULLALTERNATIVELIFESTYLEHAIROUT-inducing, etc. Like serzzz, such a task. But this book is fantastic and I am totes hoping that during this theme month more queer history lit is highlighted <img src='http://www.autostraddle.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Lone Wolf</title>
		<link>http://www.autostraddle.com/read-a-fcking-book-odd-girls-twilight-lovers-139706/#comment-212076</link>
		<dc:creator>Lone Wolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2012 19:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If I tell you that yes you are picturing me exactly right will you marry me?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I tell you that yes you are picturing me exactly right will you marry me?</p>
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		<title>By: bornsecular</title>
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		<dc:creator>bornsecular</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2012 16:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[your name/icon give this comment such cool imagery. like a smart, sleek, very wise wolf wandering the stacks in search of more knowledge.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>your name/icon give this comment such cool imagery. like a smart, sleek, very wise wolf wandering the stacks in search of more knowledge.</p>
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		<title>By: -mom-</title>
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		<dc:creator>-mom-</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2012 11:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Odd Girls and Twilight Lovers is a must-read for all you herstory buffs.  I read this concurrently w/ Stone Butch Blues, another classic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Odd Girls and Twilight Lovers is a must-read for all you herstory buffs.  I read this concurrently w/ Stone Butch Blues, another classic.</p>
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		<title>By: Lone Wolf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lone Wolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2012 09:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just checked my uni library and we have four copies of it, I might just start spending my free time sauntering up and down that aisle like a creepy history book sex nerd. Yeah that&#039;s a thing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just checked my uni library and we have four copies of it, I might just start spending my free time sauntering up and down that aisle like a creepy history book sex nerd. Yeah that&#8217;s a thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Celia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Celia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2012 06:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Looooooved this book SO MUCH. A friend gave it to me saying that she thought I might like it. We hadn&#039;t really talked for been friends before then.
Obvs now we are.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looooooved this book SO MUCH. A friend gave it to me saying that she thought I might like it. We hadn&#8217;t really talked for been friends before then.<br />
Obvs now we are.</p>
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		<title>By: Sally</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2012 05:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This might be the second-best thing to come out of Bomb Girls, behind the turban craze that I hope will start anytime now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This might be the second-best thing to come out of Bomb Girls, behind the turban craze that I hope will start anytime now.</p>
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		<title>By: Megan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Megan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2012 05:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oops, looks like I just bought another book...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops, looks like I just bought another book&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: antiant</title>
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		<dc:creator>antiant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2012 04:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[From Wikipedia, &quot;She is now a professor of English at California State University, Fresno.&quot; Holy fuck, she&#039;s literally in my backyard... o__0]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From Wikipedia, &#8220;She is now a professor of English at California State University, Fresno.&#8221; Holy fuck, she&#8217;s literally in my backyard&#8230; o__0</p>
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		<title>By: LCB</title>
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		<dc:creator>LCB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2012 01:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have, in fact, read this fucking book. (Okay, well, maybe I stopped when I got to the lesbian separatists.) But v. interesting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have, in fact, read this fucking book. (Okay, well, maybe I stopped when I got to the lesbian separatists.) But v. interesting.</p>
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