Honestly I think D-List is really funny, but other than that she annoys me. Her obsession with celebrities is just so absolutely worthless. Most of what she does is meaningless, yet mean-spirited, and therefore grating. I just figured it was going to be a fun character but you know, it was lame.

Ultimately I think I could be convinced to take back everything I said about it in this post.

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They won’t make Alex gay, not in a million years. Because if Alex becomes gay on the same show that has Olivia and Elliot, that means she might come in between and finish the old business – developing the subtexty relationship between Alex and Olivia into a maintext relationship – and scare away the E/O homophobes tweens…. And GOD FORBID two unattached women be involved when the Catholic married man “Elliot” is ready enforce adultery and infidelity by leaving his wife and 5 kids to go after Olivia so can drive away into the sunset together.

Seriously people, did any of you here actually watch the same crap I did??!!

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Kudos for NBC, Dick Wolf, Neal Baer and crew for enforcing the stereotypical again. Thanks for assuring us that we just haven’t found the right man yet.

Thank you, and fuck you!

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What publicist told Jessica to be outraged? She know she liked the compliment. I wanna be sexual napalm.

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I like the idea of it being set in 1979. Would watch that episode.

I like the point you made about people not watching this show for accurate portrayals of LGBT people. That is completely true.

I watch this show for accurate portrayal of hot female police officers with mother issues and an aversion to men because every career woman is like that. Also because of Ice T because let’s face it he knows how to say things like “Bitch” and make it look endearing.

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I think I’m judging it against other L&O episodes featuring LGBT characters, rather than looking at it from a “is this good for lesbians?” perspective.

Maybe that’s the crux of my controversial disagreement — I absolutely don’t think it provided positive representation and I wouldn’t defend it on those merits. I just don’t know that anyone watching L&O is expecting to draw conclusions about LGBTs or any other minority group for that matter as it’s a show about criminals and other extreme people involved with criminal activity in some way.

This is strange, b/c usually I’m on the other end of fights like this!

Honestly I think it’s possible I’m numb because I watch very little television but I do watch probably 6-12 hours of Law & Order a week… and always in syndication. Watching a re-run you hadn’t heard anything about when it originally aired has a numbing effect… of the 47 eps of the L&O franchise featuring LGBT characters, I’ve probs wanted to scream through 24 of them. I also often take issue with their portrayal of sex workers. I’ll see a bad-gay ep and be like “well clearly no one cared about this poor representation of gays ’cause it aired two years ago and I didn’t even know it existed ’til now, and I’ve been paying! attention!”

Do you remember the time that Shannyn Sossaman, aka my girlfriend, falsely accused a dude of rape, like ’cause she was deranged or something? Which is mixed up in my head with her role in Rules of Attraction but anyhow… I think that’s when I stopped thinking any of it mattered.

Regardless; 1979. Would have been a better time period for the episode. Without a doubt. I LOVE TIME TRAVEL.

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I don’t know Riese, it’s cool that you liked it and want to see the best from it; it’s that upbeat, generous attitude I like about Autostraddle. But when I was twelve and just beginning to question my sexuality, I already knew that lesbians hated men, wanted to be men, and deep down still wanted men. I got that message from somewhere. And apparently if I was a kid today (whose parents let me watch L&O) I’d still be getting it.

The whole “miss hoity toity lesbian thinks she doesn’t want a man, huh, we’ll just see about that, LOOK SHE TOTALLY DOES” storyline has been a staple, since, IDK, ancient Greek comedy writers made Sappho fall in love with Phaon and kill herself because she couldn’t have him. To these lesbian eyes it just looks like the focus is on taking the militant lesbian down a few pegs, not on drawing positive attention to bisexuality. The fact that she gets dumped by the dude at the end kind of reinforces that for me. *Shrug.* You’re the one of us who’s actually seen the episode though, so maybe I shouldn’t spout off on it.

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