This is the same as the MichFest policy, only replacing one relatively privileged group of women (white women) with another relatively privileged group of women (cis women).

Just because a thing is legal does not mean we have to pretend it is acceptable.

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I always find it interesting when people say that everyone person has a right to be in every place. There a male only spaces, there are over 65 only spaces, military only spaces, student only, employee only and a list of others…

However, anyone who has taken any amount of womens history learning knows that the concept of “I have a right to everything” is very male.

Trish

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I wanted to address this comment.. And I will from my personal understanding of the policy.

The intended audience via their policy is “women born women” fest believes and I personally do as well that the life experience of WBW is unique.

When I explain this is my friends I explain it like this. I am bi racial my father is black my mother is white. I do attended all black lesbian events. I have not been turned away even though I am technically half black.

However, if the promoter came to me and said that the targeted audience was black lesbians raised by two black parents, I would not attend. As my life experience raised by a white mother and a black father is different than those raised by two black parents.

The life experience of a WBW is different, than trans women and others who though not WBW, identify as women.

Beyond that fest is held on privately owned land, hosted by the land owner, so I dont get whats to debate. If I have a party at my home, I invite whom I choose. I can charge cover at the door or whatever. It’s just that simple. Those I invite can attend or not.

Trish

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By this reasoning I could understand denying access to ftm’s, they don’t identify as women. However, trans men are directly linked to the lesbian community. Many once considered themselves lesbians, and have experienced society boxing them in as such in the past. Although ftm’s are not women i think it could be generally concluded that they are allies, often feminists, and should also be welcome.

This stated, I don’t believe boycotting the festival is the answer. Often the best way to make change is from inside of an organization. If people show up expressing their disapproval of trans exclusive policies, the likelihood of a more inclusive future will increase.

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have fun with all that man-hating and whatnot! if you get a break from the separatist nihilism, try to brush up on your verb conjugation.

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et aussi, ton anglais CRAINT du BOUDIN. ferme ta putain de gueule.

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1) I fool lesbians every day. They, like everyone, dont have a clue. And I mean naked or clothed

2) Post op you do not have “a hole” you have a fully correct vagina, clitoris, labia, labia minora, frenulum. All of it. So piss off you ignorant fuck

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But yes, the big issue is we are not born MEN we are born women with intersexed bodies… we were never men. and i think its that attitude which is most hurtful

that isnt to say I havent known MEN who transition. the famous wrestler who liked lifting weights and grappling sweaty boys all day… but even THEY insist that was just “fitting in” but somehow I have a hard time swallowing it

HOWEVER.. some of us… do truly live our whole lives as WOMEN and are discriminated against like you would not F-in believe. I was personally attacked by 100 on 1 gang fights all through my young teens.. and this was life threatening and serious fighting. Imaging being a 10 year old girl and having to fight 100 15 year old boys at once… daily

dont u dare tell me I’m not a woman and I’ve never suffered

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