Hot Chicks of Occupy Wall Street

Jess’s Team Pick:

There is now a video and tumblr (naturally) where you can preview the attractive group of hippy activists doing their thing down at Zuccotti Park. The aptly named Hot Chicks of Occupy Wall Street came from the brainspace of Washington D.C. documentary filmmaker Steven Greenstreet and is currently annoying a lot of feminist websites who say the video reduces women activists to sex objects, as he interviews articulate women but focuses on close ups of their hair, bodies and tattoos.

 

Sayeth Jezebel:

“Women who choose to protest are not there to be hot. They’re there to change minds. And failing to listen to their message because you’re distracted by their impeccable cheekbones isn’t a boon to the movement; it’s just annoying horndoggery.”

Greenstreet defends his project with the following mission statement:

 “Our original ideas were admittedly sophomoric: Pics of hot chicks being all protesty, videos of hot chicks beating drums in slow-mo, etc. But when we arrived at Zuccotti Park in New York City, it evolved into something more. There was a vibrant energy in the air, a warmth of community and family, and the voices we heard were so hopeful and passionate. Pretty faces were making signs, giving speeches, organizing crowds, handing out food, singing, dancing, debating, hugging and marching. It made me want to pack my bags and pitch a tent on Wall Street. A lot of fantastic media has been created about the “Occupy” movement. I was watching one video in particular and commented to a friend, “Wow, seeing all those super smart hot chicks at the protest makes me want to be there.” He replied, “Hmmm… Yeah, let’s go with that.”

We instantly went to Tumblr and made hotchicksofoccupywallstreet.tumblr.com. Our original ideas were admittedly sophomoric: Pics of hot chicks being all protesty, videos of hot chicks beating drums in slow-mo, etc. But when we arrived at Zuccotti Park in New York City, it evolved into something more.

There was a vibrant energy in the air, a warmth of community and family, and the voices we heard were so hopeful and passionate. Pretty faces were making signs, giving speeches, organizing crowds, handing out food, singing, dancing, debating, hugging and marching.

It made me want to pack my bags and pitch a tent on Wall Street. And it’s in the light that we created this video. And we hope it makes you want to be there too.”

Here is a little something to take the edge off: An Occupy My Life marriage proposal at Liberty Plaza amid the protesters:

And for equal opportunity, The Shirtless Guys of Occupy Wall Street.

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    :O
    HIPPIES! HOT HIPPIDY HIPPIES!
    raindrops on roses and hippies with banners!
    HOT HIPPIDY HIP HOP HIPPIES FACE PAINTING AND BELIEVING IN STUFF!
    BEAUTIFUL LADIES WITH MORALS AND TATTOO’S AND OH. MY. GOD.

    I need to change my pants.

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    maybe this makes me a bad feminist, but i didn’t find the video offensive. i think they did a beautiful job showing some gorgeous women. i appreciated the diversity of the women showed, and i enjoyed hearing what they had to say. they admit that the idea started in a somewhat juvenile place, but i think they found something good by the end of it.

    plus, how can you be mad about a video of beautiful, intelligent, well-spoken, passionate women? :)

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      I completely agree that the video itself features beautiful, inspiring, awesome women and the filmography was really well done, apart from too much lingering on bodies in the beginning for my liking.

      The issue that I have is that the project is called “Hot Chicks of Occupy Wall Street” which immediately reduces these women to female bodies, rather than their thoughts, values, the beauty and power of the entire woman. The title also affects who then watches the video and with what purpose or expectation.

      That said, doing it this way, the creator and the video are bound to receive a lot more attention, so..
      To me, it’s disappointing that a project with a focus on young activist women that has an immense amount of potential and actually turned out to be quite well done, it had to be made and gain attention under an objectifying premise. :(

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        To me there’s also a question of consent. Much of the women don’t even seem to know they’re being filmed, let alone put up on a “your activism only matters inasmuch as it causes boners” website.

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          True. I was actually thinking that as well. But moreso like.. it makes me sad that these intelligent, purposeful women would agree to be part of a project like this. I would feel immediately degraded.

          Which then lead me to the question: How much contextual knowledge were the featured women actually given when they agreed to be filmed and/or interviewed? Was it really informed consent?

          Not to mention, I am sure there were women there who had things to say that I would love to hear but who were not deemed “hot” enough by Steven Greenstreet
          Like, ‘Okay, I’ll let you speak.. since you look so pretty when you make big words!’

          Sorry, the last bit is semi-unrelated to your reply but the whole thing gets me fired up because THIS is the kind of stuff that is important. Because so many people think it isn’t. THIS is the kind of stuff that slips under the radar and is justified in our society, even by women.

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            There’s an article over on Feministe talking about the same issue. Jill, one of their regular writers, found a couple of rape jokes Greenstreet made in connection with the video, which sort of cast it in a different light. The link is:

            Autostraddle, can we please talk about appropriating the male gaze? Judging by the number of comments on this page, lots of other readers are interested in the line between admiring a woman’s body and objectifying her. It’s making me feel like a bad feminist, please help!

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    I liked the video too. It was well edited and didn’t feel at all exploitative to me. Perhaps the term “hot chicks” wasn’t the best choice, as that has an offensive tone to it, but the content of the site and the video doesn’t bother me.

    Sidenote, I cannot stop staring at the photo at the top of this page. That woman is so drop dead gorgeous that if she walked up to me on the street I can guarantee I’d have trouble forming words. Damn.

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      I agree. I didn’t really think it was exploiting the women as much. Well, maybe it did do so just a little in the beginning. But one of the girls actually seemed to have sent the guys a message saying she appreciated the video, not so much for being called a hot chick but for explaining her point of view, so from their point of view maybe they don’t really care about the label.

      As for your sidenote, I agree with you 1000%. Her. That top pic. Damn. I would be right there tongue-tied with you. And maybe lacking oxygen a bit.

      http://SoNotStraight.tmblr.com

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    And maybe I’m just hell bent on defending them because they did in fact choose some very gorgeous, and clearly intelligent, women to film, but I also appreciate the edit that they added to their mission statement:

    “EDIT: Apparently a lot of controversy has erupted online from people passionately opining (among many things) that this is sexist, offensive, and dangerously objectifies women. It was not my intent to do that and I think the spirit of the video, and the voices within, are honorable and inspiring.

    However, if you disagree with me, I encourage you to use that as an excuse to create constructive discussions about the issues you have. Because, to be honest, any excuse is a good excuse to bring up the topic of women’s rights.”

    Yes, there are so many people at occupy wall street who look all sorts of different ways, but there are lots of different blogs and things popping up to represent different groups. They seized a group based on something they saw and ran with it, and I personally think the finished product is not demeaning or objectifying.

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      I actually really liked the video. I thought it was beautiful and I loved the things these women were saying. THAT SAID I still think it was really douchebag-y to call them “hot chicks” and think it’s a huge cop-out to say “that wasn’t my intent”. Okay, sure, it wasn’t his “intent” to be obnoxious and sexist with the way he thought of and named his project but it still WAS obnoxious and sexist. Saying “I didn’t mean to be sexist” has NEVER been an acceptable excuse. I just think he should admit it and just change the name already. I don’t understand why people have to be so stupid about admitting to their mistakes.

      But yeah, I really liked the video. I just wish it was called “The Women of Occupy Wallstreet” or even “Beautiful Women of Occupy Wallstreet” would have been better with some kind of note about how activism and values are part of what makes people beautiful.

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        The ‘intent’ bit is totally a cop-out on the part of the director(s). If it wasn’t their intent, they would note the offense it’s caused a number of people and change the damn title. If you read the comments on the video, you can see one of the guys (not the main guy, but the other one) commenting repeatedly about how ingenious the title is in getting people (*cough*dudebros*cough*) to watch. The first time I read the comments on the video, one of the very first comments was something like ‘oh, I have a boner.’ Somehow, I don’t think getting dudes like that to watch the video changed their minds about politics. This video makes me sad. It could have been really cool to have a video of women protesters, but this is just gross to me.

        In short: I know a lot of y’all enjoyed it, but I’ll be over here in the humorless-feminist corner. Harumph.

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    I thought for sure this video would annoy me, but I guess I was expecting a parade of skinny blonde girls with big breasts and that’s not what it was, it was people who i think he was trying to show are beautiful from the inside out. anyhow, it’s very lookist, but not the end of the world.

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    I was suspicious the second I saw the title.

    I mean, let’s get real, we all like hot chicks and quite a bit of us like #ows… so combining them together would seem like a good idea?

    No.

    1) There was BARELY any talking from the women. This is NOT advancing #ows in any way. Women show up to protests and their looks are more important than their words? This shit happens to me all the time and it’s not flattering, it’s fucking enraging.

    2) So… if you’re ugly, your protest presence doesn’t matter? I’m actually making the same point as I did before: your looks matter more than your words.

    As for his edit responding to the controversy….
    He can say and think that his intentions are good, but what even were his intentions? To add publicity to #ows? That’s the best one I can come up with and it’s a shitty one because COME ON. Check your privilege.

    Also, I dont give a fuck if he doesnt think the product is “not demeaning or objectifying”. It is. (see 1 and 2)

    Lastly, anyone who wants to be at a protest cuz 0f hawt chix is not someone who will help #ows.

    #rage

    p.s. And people talk shit about feminazis… maybe it’s because unless you’re intimidating and confident as fuck, you’ll be written off as cute little girl.

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    I don’t know, I liked it but I got a bit bored and I definitely would have liked it better if it were just a tribute to all the protesters out there doing their thing and inspiring the movement.

    I mean honestly if you had to focus on a group I’d be most interested in focusing on the older protesters and what they were doing and how they were interacting with all of the young’ins.

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    Oh come on feminists, give us a break!!
    It is so annoying that feminists are against any celebration of woman’s beauty! Anytime there is a beauty angle to a topic they go all crazy, like women never have to be shown as hot but always have to be showing personality, that makes me think feminists are mostly frustrated ugly women! Seriously, you are not helping your cause by refusing systematically to focus on woman’s hotness. Yes, in this video bad looking chicks have no room and that piss you off so go do your own movie about the rest of them. The angle of showing hot chicks there is a pretty good one and it’s just one of the possible angle. Just one of them..
    I enjoy the video cause I enjoy watching hot girls, so what? Would I prefer to see fat chicks occupying wall street? No! Would it be more offensive to come up with this concept? Yes! Tell me what’s wrong to have a hot chick angle to a topic, I really don’t see what is offensive in this video? Are they tied up to the building naked?
    Stop making useless fights and go get laid.

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      Yeah, I’m doing this whole thing where I try not to be a jerk on the internet (Kristin & Dannielle from Everyone Is Gay came to speak in Boston and what can I say, I adore them, and they made a big point of not being a jerk even when someone else is a jerk, and I am trying so hard even though the inner bitch inside me wants to be a jerk sometimes…) but if I were to read this comment a few weeks ago before making the whole “I will try to stop being a jerk on the internet” pledge, I’d be co-signing this comment…I know we try to foster respectful dialogue on Autostraddle, and obviously “fucking idiot” doesn’t really jive with that goal, but Jennifer’s comment is so horribly offensive and misguided on its own that I sort of see where the rage would come from…

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    The video is about showing hot girls among the crowd so WHAT? The movie even achieves to actually prove they are not just hot but smart, it also dragged traffic among a group of people who were expecting to see boobs and hot girls in mini skirts, this is a much better job than many of the feminist videos who are made by feminists for feminists talking about feminists and are really not helping woman’s rights because no masse people will ever listen to it and what we need to do is to talk to the masses not to already convinced feminists.
    The depart angle is not as important as the end result.
    Those guys might have given the possibility to some douches to listen to those girls and worse case they have showcased the most beautiful girls among the crowd, they have bring a new angle of something already covered by the media, they have bring a refreshing angle and there is nothing bad at all in that. They also seem to have learn something themselves on the way and changed their original position. Which is way more than many feminists can achieve.
    This kind of movies actually do help the feminist cause by increase the size of the reach and by making douche bags paying attention to bigger things than boobs.
    This is a wrong fight feminists are making and that upsets me.

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      It utterly breaks my heart that you could be a woman and be so fucking clueless as to how we’re all objectified for the things you claim are innocent. Feminists are not just looking out for “the ugly chicks”; we’re looking out for the conceited superficial bimbos like you, too.

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      Here’s the thing. Everyone is doing their best. Feminism is a vast movement and especially with the use of the Internet and social media, lots of people claim feminism and then do it in a way that doesn’t mesh with how other people view feminism. This upsets people because if we’re going to identify with a label we want to feel likes that label is a true representation of our beliefs all the time. When it’s not that can be very hard to swallow.

      Based on your comment I can’t tell if you identify as a feminist or not; my assumption is “not,” but I don’t want to make assumptions. If you don’t, the above situation I proposed wouldn’t really apply to you. However, I would ask you to consider why you feel like your opinion about what is the “right” fight versus what is the “wrong” fight should be more important that others’ opinions. Why do you get to police that?

      I don’t want to call you names. I don’t want to insult your intelligence. You have your thoughts and I have mine. Still, I hope that instead of being defensive or offensive, you can ask yourself if this video is really harmless, if such a video really brings people to the cause in a positive way, and if there wasn’t a way to make a similarly visually appealing video, making the same awesome points, without framing it in such an objectifying and insulting (to many) way. If you ask those questions and come up with answers that still support your original reaction, we’ll have to agree to disagree; I just wish we could do so in a respectful way, rather than one in which you tell me, and all other feminists, to go get laid, and we in turn call you a fucking idiot.

      Sigh. This has just bummed me out in general.

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        This deserves a comment award!! :)

        I congratulate you for engaging in reflective listening and attempting to engage in thoughtful discussion and foster growth and greater understand for everyone.
        Anger and bitterness and name-calling are emotional and cultural plagues and really do too much harm to justify (despite how difficult they can sometimes be to turn off).

        Thank you for posting this; thank you for existing; you rock.

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          Haha, thanks! I don’t know if I really deserve such praise considering my more knee-jerk reaction above, but I am trying really hard to veer away from name-calling and unproductive arguing (especially online!) these days, so I appreciate you supporting me and my attempts, for real!

          I read an awesome post on Rookie the other day (clearly I am having some serious loving feelings for Rookie/Tavi, sorry for mentioning it allthetimeomg!) about how to deal when someone doesn’t agree with a feminist opinion or really any opinion. See here: http://rookiemag.com/2011/10/the-perks-of-being-a-killjoy/

          I think it’s so tough to stand up for what you believe in without being laughed at/ignored/painted as too sensitive or too PC or too whatever, so sometimes we (I) lash out instead. I used to have a really hard time making my point without feeling like I was becoming a caricature of myself. Now I try to listen more, make more friendly/genuinely well-intentioned suggestions, and if all else fails, take a deep breath and walk away. At least, that’s the ultimate goal.

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    well my goodness! lets see: body snarking, blanket generalizations about women, failing to even recognize the legitimate possibility that this (at least in some way) compromises the agency of these women to have a political message that in no way relates to their physical appearance (and furthermore, not seeing that more generally as problematic for women in general), implying that women with dissenting opinions from yours should be met with criticism of their looks, dismissing a group of people as “frustrated ugly women”…its pretty obvious you know A LOT about feminism.

    talk about upsetting…

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    I actually do know about feminists. I am french and I was helping the feminist organization (still active) called Les Chiennes de Garde in 1999 when it started. I left when they stopped to be relevant and started to have some useless fights. I know a lot about how they think, once the leader got pissed because I came up with make-up on and I was looking ‘too pretty’ for the fight, and that I acted like I want to drag attention from men (I am lesbian hellooooooo!).
    I don’t think that it’s only a french feminist way to think. I don’t think either that is all the feminists way to think but when I see some of them attacking this video, I am pretty sure which kind of feminists this video pisses off. I call them the ugly frustrated ones, I maintain that. :D

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    https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/photos-ak-ash1/v194/190/102/608964318/n608964318_773765_355.jpg

    Here’s a picture of me joining your cause! I am not only in the picture I also directed it!
    You might see it as me objectifying woman, what I wanted to prove here is that I, as a woman can also be a douche. On the other side an other woman is grabbing my tie like I am being objectifying too.. So who objectify who if the woman is the one objectifying first?
    I think the real fight for equal rights between women and men lies there.

    How would you react if it was a woman who shot the Hot Chick video?

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    Sorry for my english, I rephrase this:
    You might see it as me objectifying another woman, what I wanted to prove here is that I, as a woman can also be a douche. On the other side an other woman is grabbing my tie like I am being objectified too.

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    Me? I’m not much of a feminist. I don’t push in either direction. I like life as it is now. Put me in another country and I might start firing but, but here, in Aus, it’s not so bad being a woman.

    This video… I don’t think it objectifies them at all. I think it makes them one of the many amazing faces of this whole revolution. Women have been the faces of many different revolutions. They’re beautiful, strong, lively creatures, so why shouldn’t they be shown as such?
    If anything, I think it’s an empowering video, and my, how it made my heart flutter.

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      It’s the fact that it only focuses on pretty(hot) women that is so frustrating/demeaning. If it just focused on the women of occupywallstreet then it’d be alright, but why does it have to exclude the women these men deem not goodlooking enough? They seem to appreciate their opinions and actions in the protest but at the root of it the only reason this was made is because of their bodies and faces.

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        I think it’s a huge matter of opinion- I personally didn’t find one of those girls hot. People seem to forget that attraction and beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I’m sure for someone out there those girls are ‘average’ looking.

        Why do photographers only take photos of things that appeal to them, in an artistic sense? Why one flower instead of another? Why one crying man instead of that crying man? Why that girl in a headscarf instead of the billions of other girls in headscarves?

        The video is a piece of art. They chose the things that, to them, carried the message they wanted to convey.

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    ugh i dont mean to dogmatic, and i honestly get what you are trying to say (even though i dont think you should call women ugly or fat to make you point). but here is the thing: 1.jennifer, you are clearly an attractive woman and you even posted a picture to prove it. congratulations. way to go. 2. i agree with you, hot women are hot. and thats great and women can be sexy and still be feminists. i am gay and a woman and i get that. but one day, you will not be the woman that people want to see in a seductive photo shoot or featured in a “hot ladies of ows” video. you will be the woman that society deems too old or too irrelevant or too unattractive to have an opinion worth hearing. its the sad reality. women that are conventionally attractive have voices that are often heard way above the voices of those that are not. do we really need yet another video to prove that? right now, you might see yourself as this feisty, sexy woman who can be sexy and own that etc (more power to you, btw)…but what you need to realize is as women, we cannot be defined by our looks the way your initial comment emphasized. you cannot attack women that way. you must stand up against that just as much as these “ugly, fat, frustrated” women you so pity. for your sake and the sake of other women, you cant get that comfortable. women have voices, opinions, and narratives that should be heard regardless of how well they fit the definition of attractive. and you attacking women as “frustrated” because they are unattractive, you are just furthering the notion that women are what they look like. period. hot or not, you and every woman you know is more that her physical appearance. the women in the movie absolutely have a voice that should be heard as did every other woman at ows. but i think we all need to recognize that this video of “here are the hot ladies who matter at ows” is really saying something much deeper about how people (particularly men) already view women in their homes, in their workplace, and in the political sphere. and its wrong. this video in and of itself is pretty harmless, but the attitude it promotes is not.

    sorry for the rant. its probably my period talking.

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      I think you make a valid counter argument. The problem is, this video doesn’t change, reinforce or defend human nature, which is that society likes and pays more attention to attractive people. It’s unfair and I roll my eyes at American TV sometimes because everyone is a fit model all the time, but that is how we all are, consciously or subconsciously. This video is a product of human nature and if it’s not making a video, it’s who we are nice to at the bus stop or who we help when they ask or whose music we buy, etc. I guess I think that this video may not be intelligent or helpful or useful, but I don’t think it detracts from these women or what their message is. Maybe I am wrong and am perfectly willing to see that maybe I’m not looking at this the right way.

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    I consider myself extremely feminist and I think it’s seriously reaching to say that this video is sexist. What is inherently sexist about looking at beautiful women or celebrating their physical beauty? I don’t think anyone said they have nothing to say or that they are sex objects. In fact, the video is celebrating specifically these women because they are admirable human beings who believe in a cause that we consider to be just and intelligent. You could compile footage of a bunch of beautiful women that include Tea Partiers, Occupy Wall Street folks and porn stars, but that’s not really the point and the video would be less appealing, right? It’s about the fact that these women are there. This isn’t porn, this isn’t portraying women as dumb vacuous bimbos. It’s showing the beauty of women who do have something to say. And sometimes, you just want to admire how attractive someone is — is that wrong? I have a strong aversion to anything that even has the tinge of misogyny or objectification. This, to me, does neither of those things.

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      i dont think this video is terrible for women, i hope thats not how it sounded. i am actually, to be honest, a bit indifferent about the movie itself. i feel pretty “eh” about it. what i was responding to was the comment from a member of autostraddle that sounded like it came straight out of a handbook about how to NOT support women or feminism or really humanity (should have hit reply probably). it was just really disappointing. i am not a member, but i read this website a lot because i like it and i just couldnt believe what i was reading so i needed to say something. also, while the video is not terrible, i think its these pervasive and subtle messages about women and the way they look and what the means about their sense of worth that has to change. this video is such a small part of that, but its still worth noting when its right in your face. i think its absolutely possible to appreciate female beauty and not be sexist. maybe just not in this context? it just seems misplaced.

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        I didn’t want to have to do this but let me explain you a bit more why I feel like Feminists are for many of them, a bunch of frustrated women going against everything related to the beauty of women instead of doing some real meaningful job to help woman.
        Like I said I have been working with a feminists association in France: Disappointment, a lot of hard feelings towards beautiful girls and most of them were yes, ugly and frustrated women looking for a revenge.

        But let me tell you more about where i am coming from..
        Last year, while feminists were acting against the french dictionary to remove some words or to have feminine gender to masculine words, I was at the other side of the world bringing and producing in Vietnam the MTV Exit Campaign, which is fighting against human trafficking, women especially. Through this campaign I came across some hard reality of what really is to objectify woman, in a ‘turning them into sex slave’ way, not in a ‘staring at their boobs at the office’ way. So yeah, I might have a problem to give a shit about a video talking about ‘hot chicks’ after what I saw during the MTV Exit campaign. I certainly don’t give a damn about people calling me bimbo or people thinking I am against women’s rights. Do you know how many feminists I saw during the 6 months of MTV Exit campaign? NONE! But I saw an other bimbo like me from the USA carrying the whole project and fighting on ground for it, even against the Vietnamese government. So now you tell me, what have you done recently for the woman cause? I am listening.

        This video we are talking about has nothing offending in it, even calling beautiful girls ‘hot chicks’ is not offending to me, what a big deal! It is actually a helpful proof that women can be hot and smart.
        Myself, I use hot chick all the time, I joke with my friends about size of boobs every day at work, I have some super big douche bags conversation with my straight guy friends who will be the first ones to call a beautiful girl a hot chick, I go on set with them and we are zooming on boobs, getting insert shots of it and then what? The day after we go on a video shooting against woman trafficking while you are judging us for being superficial sometimes. My point is stop fighting those things and go fight the real stuffs.

        http://www.mtvexit.org/?lang=en_us

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      Yes yes yes I came here to post that link and instead got a little bit bogged down with name-calling/policing opinions etc upthread, but Jill’s analysis is the most eloquent thing I’ve read about the video thus far and it helped me clarify my own thoughts and feelings which I always really appreciate. Basically yay thank you for posting that, but can we talk about how tiring and frustrating it is to go through all those comments?! Sigh.

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        I tend to read the comments at Feministe for fun, you can tell when an article will cause an uproar and then you grab the popcorn and watch it play out. The regulars did a good job on this one of combating the trolls. But I really couldn’t wrap my head around the person who was trying to claim that calling someone a creep is just as bad as calling them a fag.

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