Comments on: Day Three of the Prop 8 Gay Marriage Trial: Let’s Get Offensive

By: lindsay lohan naked

lindsay lohan naked — Sat, 24 Mar 2012 06:00:36 +0000

lol i know right

By: laneia

laneia — Fri, 15 Jan 2010 17:46:40 +0000

THIS

By: riese

riese — Fri, 15 Jan 2010 17:04:04 +0000

I think Rachel said everything I would want to say.

But I do want to add that ‘teaching homosexuality’ is an offensive phrase. “Admitting homosexuals exist” in public schools is what we’re really talking about here. Do biology teachers teach students how to be bumblebees? Do math teachers teach students how to be triangles? If a kid who lives in New York City learns about life on a farm, are we teaching him to be a farmer? In my public school I learned the history of Islam and Christianity, but I managed to remain Jewish. Education is about expanding our view of the world, unbiased, so students can decide where they fit into it.

The fact that you don’t want to be “defamed” for bigotry is unacceptable. That’s one of the reasons why this trial matters to us so much, as we discuss in Day 4 — as long as the country has discrimination in our constitution, it’s possible that completely good-hearted intelligent people like yourself, Pete, won’t realize how hurtful it is that you actually think it’s okay to ask us to respect your complete disrespect of us.

By: nycamber2

nycamber2 — Fri, 15 Jan 2010 16:53:03 +0000

oh pete it must really hurt to have your religious texts taken out of context and used against you/made fun of, i wonder what that feels like

By: riese

riese — Fri, 15 Jan 2010 16:31:46 +0000

I’d like to quote the great Emily Saliers of the Indigo Girls who once said, “You have to laugh at yourself, ’cause you’d cry your eyes out if you didn’t.”

By: riese

riese — Fri, 15 Jan 2010 16:30:36 +0000

THANK YOU JULES!

By: RachelwasHere

RachelwasHere — Fri, 15 Jan 2010 16:02:30 +0000

Hi Pete,
I appreciate that you are on the fence on the issue and am genuinely pleased that you are using the internet to look further into things. To this end, I hope you will visit http://www.prop8trialtracker.com/ It is run by the Courage Campaign (http://www.couragecampaign.org/) whose mission is to change people’s minds on the issue. The Human Rights Campaign (www.hrc.org) is also a great resource.
I don’t know a lot about Mormonism and therefore won’t reply specifically to any of your statements on what is or is not taught, but I do agree that in regards to aspects of the faith that don’t deal with homosexuality we should try to be more tolerant ourselves.
But I think one thing to consider in your displeasure with this article is that you are not the intended audience. There are great blogs and resources such as those I mentioned above whose purpose is outreach on these issues and still others who are meant to be objective news sources.
This post, however, is targeted more (if I may be so bold as to assume Autostraddle’s intention) at those of us who are LGBT or are allies with an interest in “girl-on-girl culture”. The article is both informative and entertaining. The attitude, sarcasm, cursing are all part of the entertainment and the article links to further resources for more facts for those who are interested in being more informed. Those of us who are decided and indeed have a vested interest in the issue can really use a good laugh to help calm our nerves as we watch our rights and in a way our lives go on trial. Poking fun at a faith might not be the best way to do so, but certainly I don’t mind name-calling those who are standing in court and trying to call me a second class citizen.
I hope you find the facts you are looking for and thank you, sincerely, for your interest.

By: Julia from MI

Julia from MI — Fri, 15 Jan 2010 15:52:58 +0000

I am in COMPLETE AGREEMENT.

By: taylor

taylor — Fri, 15 Jan 2010 15:04:15 +0000

I’m really glad you feel that way, because I really really like swearing.

By: taylor

taylor — Fri, 15 Jan 2010 15:03:43 +0000

1. Why did I read the full text version of Jane Eyre if this existed?
2. I am a sailor in real life.

By: pete

pete — Fri, 15 Jan 2010 14:22:04 +0000

IF my comments are posted, I’ll be surprised. I don’t see ONE dissenting opinion on this post. I am appalled by the language. If you all want to bring some credibility to your case, you really ought to cut all the swearing. I believe in equal rights, but I also believe that one should be able to debate the point at an intellectual level. This swearing and name calling is ridiculous and is really beneath you.

Now for some facts about the Mormons. First, a church can teach whatever it wants as long as it is within the confines of the law. If something is outside the stated law – like teaching homosexuality in public schools – people have a right to their opinion on this without being defamed. Also, the church teaches their doctrine in their church, not in public schools. Regarding the article, “… like that dark skin is a curse from G-d, American Indians are a lost tribe of Israel, the Garden of Eden is in Missouri, G-d lives on a star called Kolab, caffeine is evil, Mormon underwear protects you from Satan, and that Christianity is American.” The Book of Mormon does teach that dark skin is a curse. But then so does the bible. I think more modern thinking has disuaded that belief. American Indians are a lost tribe of Israel – but then so is most of the world. You make it sound like that is a ridiculous statement. Give me a break! The LDS church does not teach that the Garden of Eden was in Missouri, nor does it teach that God likes on Kolob (at least spell it right!). Garments are symbolic of faith and it is practicing faith that protects you from Satan. Finally the church does NOT teach that Christianity is American.

When I read stuff like this – most of which is made up and not factual in the least bit – it does nothing to serve your cause. In fact, it destroys the credibility of your article and in the end, your cause.

I for one am on the fence on this issue, but I am still waiting for someone to provide a fact based, unemotional analysis of the case; and one that does not resort to sensational name calling and lies. I am an open minded intellectual, so come at me with your facts.

By: KayDee

KayDee — Fri, 15 Jan 2010 08:13:25 +0000

Will you marry me autostraddle?

Since we want to recruit toddlers to the gay, and take away heterosexuals rights, can we also throw in marrying websites? Please?

I love you.

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