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		<title>By: Fay</title>
		<link>http://www.autostraddle.com/braves-unconventional-heroine-what-doesnt-queer-you-makes-you-stronger-140393/#comment-308063</link>
		<dc:creator>Fay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Apr 2013 01:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[HA!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HA!</p>
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		<title>By: Bhan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bhan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2013 14:10:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Its a thing but so is being a straight non gender conforming lady and to always insist that gender variance equals queer is to separate gay and straight ladies into two separate species; real &quot;feminine&quot; women who don&#039;t want to or can&#039;t do anything traditionally male, no matter how stupid assigning it to maleness is, and queer women who aren&#039;t &quot;real&quot; women. Its bad for everyone because its used as an excuse by people who like the patriarchy where it is to avoid questioning it and it continues to Other queer ladies. Its also used to repress behaviours in non conforming straight girls growing up by well meaning family members and patriarchal asshats alike, &quot;you&#039;ll never get a boyfriend if....&quot; because &quot;everyone will think you&#039;re gay,&quot; and while of course women&#039;s lives shouldn&#039;t revolve around finding a partner generally that&#039;s something straight girls want and society is all about teaching them they have to sacrifice everything for that. 

Not to mention that femmes exist.

Basically I don&#039;t think the discussion on someone&#039;s gender presentation should lead on to speculation about their sexuality because you can&#039;t tell the latter from the former. There are clues sure, and some things are more likely to lead to one conclusion than another statistically speaking, but its not an actual causal link.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its a thing but so is being a straight non gender conforming lady and to always insist that gender variance equals queer is to separate gay and straight ladies into two separate species; real &#8220;feminine&#8221; women who don&#8217;t want to or can&#8217;t do anything traditionally male, no matter how stupid assigning it to maleness is, and queer women who aren&#8217;t &#8220;real&#8221; women. Its bad for everyone because its used as an excuse by people who like the patriarchy where it is to avoid questioning it and it continues to Other queer ladies. Its also used to repress behaviours in non conforming straight girls growing up by well meaning family members and patriarchal asshats alike, &#8220;you&#8217;ll never get a boyfriend if&#8230;.&#8221; because &#8220;everyone will think you&#8217;re gay,&#8221; and while of course women&#8217;s lives shouldn&#8217;t revolve around finding a partner generally that&#8217;s something straight girls want and society is all about teaching them they have to sacrifice everything for that. </p>
<p>Not to mention that femmes exist.</p>
<p>Basically I don&#8217;t think the discussion on someone&#8217;s gender presentation should lead on to speculation about their sexuality because you can&#8217;t tell the latter from the former. There are clues sure, and some things are more likely to lead to one conclusion than another statistically speaking, but its not an actual causal link.</p>
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		<title>By: Bhan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bhan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2013 14:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My grandmother actually set fire to her liberty bodice (a sort of follow up to the corset that was meant to be less constricting while enforcing good posture).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My grandmother actually set fire to her liberty bodice (a sort of follow up to the corset that was meant to be less constricting while enforcing good posture).</p>
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		<title>By: ElizaAnderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>ElizaAnderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2012 04:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for writing this! I was totally unaware of this controversy surrounding the movie until I started looking up pics to make an HP/Brave crossover meme.

EW&#039;s reasons for Merida being a lesbian are, frankly, stupid. Like you said: There&#039;s no problem with the idea that she might be a lesbian, and maybe she is. But first of all, her sexuality was besides the point. Her sexuality DID NOT MATTER to the story. The story was about a mother and daughter whose relationship had fallen apart, and how they fixed it.

And:

I was a tomboy growing up. I still am, in some ways. I used to think boys were gross and kissing was gross and holding hands was suspect. I was going to have my own TV show on Discovery Channel, and I was going to never get married but instead live in a tent in Africa with my camera man (who I would certainly *not* be romantically involved with). I also did archery for several years in 4H (wow, did &quot;Brave&quot; reawaken the desire to do that). Plus I still think it&#039;s cool to let daddy long-legs and worms and caterpillars crawl all over my hand as I examine them.

And guess what? I&#039;m straight. But according to EW, could I be gay? Absolutely, because I don&#039;t fit traditional gender roles...whatever. Along with all of the above, I bridle at the idea of being the obedient fiancee...I definitely laugh at my boyfriend and do what I want.

(Well, sometimes. Obviously a good relationship is founded on compromise...which is part of the point of the movie.)

Who cares whether Merida&#039;s a lesbian? It doesn&#039;t matter either way, and like you said - sure, you can take her lack of interest in the three suitors as a sign of that (although I have to ask, was there ANYONE who saw the movie and thought the suitors were good?), but her breaking of traditional gender roles?

Come on, guys.

Plus this kind of perpetuates the stereotype that all lesbians must basically be men in female bodies. There are lesbians who wear make-up and are into fashion and stuff...they don&#039;t have to be &quot;butch&quot; any more than straight women have to be &quot;girly.&quot;

Seriously.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for writing this! I was totally unaware of this controversy surrounding the movie until I started looking up pics to make an HP/Brave crossover meme.</p>
<p>EW&#8217;s reasons for Merida being a lesbian are, frankly, stupid. Like you said: There&#8217;s no problem with the idea that she might be a lesbian, and maybe she is. But first of all, her sexuality was besides the point. Her sexuality DID NOT MATTER to the story. The story was about a mother and daughter whose relationship had fallen apart, and how they fixed it.</p>
<p>And:</p>
<p>I was a tomboy growing up. I still am, in some ways. I used to think boys were gross and kissing was gross and holding hands was suspect. I was going to have my own TV show on Discovery Channel, and I was going to never get married but instead live in a tent in Africa with my camera man (who I would certainly *not* be romantically involved with). I also did archery for several years in 4H (wow, did &#8220;Brave&#8221; reawaken the desire to do that). Plus I still think it&#8217;s cool to let daddy long-legs and worms and caterpillars crawl all over my hand as I examine them.</p>
<p>And guess what? I&#8217;m straight. But according to EW, could I be gay? Absolutely, because I don&#8217;t fit traditional gender roles&#8230;whatever. Along with all of the above, I bridle at the idea of being the obedient fiancee&#8230;I definitely laugh at my boyfriend and do what I want.</p>
<p>(Well, sometimes. Obviously a good relationship is founded on compromise&#8230;which is part of the point of the movie.)</p>
<p>Who cares whether Merida&#8217;s a lesbian? It doesn&#8217;t matter either way, and like you said &#8211; sure, you can take her lack of interest in the three suitors as a sign of that (although I have to ask, was there ANYONE who saw the movie and thought the suitors were good?), but her breaking of traditional gender roles?</p>
<p>Come on, guys.</p>
<p>Plus this kind of perpetuates the stereotype that all lesbians must basically be men in female bodies. There are lesbians who wear make-up and are into fashion and stuff&#8230;they don&#8217;t have to be &#8220;butch&#8221; any more than straight women have to be &#8220;girly.&#8221;</p>
<p>Seriously.</p>
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		<title>By: Haley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Haley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2012 00:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I feel like if she were going to fall into &quot;typical&quot; lesbian stereotypes, she would have been wearing slacks. 

So.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel like if she were going to fall into &#8220;typical&#8221; lesbian stereotypes, she would have been wearing slacks. </p>
<p>So.</p>
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		<title>By: Kerida O'Reilly</title>
		<link>http://www.autostraddle.com/braves-unconventional-heroine-what-doesnt-queer-you-makes-you-stronger-140393/#comment-217316</link>
		<dc:creator>Kerida O'Reilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2012 03:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Grace, I just want to say that I went to see this movie 90% because of your recommendation and I am so glad I did. I totally love breaking with traditional fairy tales while keeping a lot of the same fantastical elements, which this movie did well. 

The movie is not at all about Merida&#039;s possible sexuality. It is completely, 100% about her relationship with her mother (and the rest of her family) and realizing how to be true to herself but also fulfill her duties. THAT is an awesome message. And I would just like to add, the script never says that she is not interested in boys, she says over and over again that she&#039;s &quot;not ready&quot; for marriage, which is a very different statement if you ask me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grace, I just want to say that I went to see this movie 90% because of your recommendation and I am so glad I did. I totally love breaking with traditional fairy tales while keeping a lot of the same fantastical elements, which this movie did well. </p>
<p>The movie is not at all about Merida&#8217;s possible sexuality. It is completely, 100% about her relationship with her mother (and the rest of her family) and realizing how to be true to herself but also fulfill her duties. THAT is an awesome message. And I would just like to add, the script never says that she is not interested in boys, she says over and over again that she&#8217;s &#8220;not ready&#8221; for marriage, which is a very different statement if you ask me.</p>
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		<title>By: Carrie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carrie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2012 17:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello fellow Scots! Didn&#039;t think there were many Autostraddle fans over here]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello fellow Scots! Didn&#8217;t think there were many Autostraddle fans over here</p>
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		<title>By: Katiger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katiger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2012 14:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I liked the bears.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked the bears.</p>
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		<title>By: Ali</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2012 11:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Saaaame! And second the frustration vent at being Scottish and not being able to watch it at the same time as the Americans!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saaaame! And second the frustration vent at being Scottish and not being able to watch it at the same time as the Americans!</p>
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		<title>By: Ash</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2012 08:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So I just saw this movie. And I thought it was pretty good.

Not &quot;OH MY GOD I AM BALLING WHAT THE FUCK HAS THIS MOVIE REDUCED ME TO&#039; Pixar amazing, but a really nice animated film. I had problems with the story, but that&#039;s because a piece of paper says I studied animation and when you do that you officially ruin the entertainment value of anything you will ever watch, ever again (it&#039;s like going to film school). But I came in with pretty low expectations (original female director that was supposed to be the first female director for Pixar was replaced with male director, mixed reviews about the screenings, rumbles from inside Pixar that their story people weren&#039;t too thrilled about the story themselves), and figured it would be something really pretty to look at at least because no one models and renders like Pixar. But it was more than that, so I was pretty happy.

That aside, I COMPLETELY agree with you, Grace. I really loved that Merida was this strong female character who wasn&#039;t overtaken by this sudden need to love some guy due to plot. The gender-variance just made her more dimensional for me, and definitely more of a role model. I didn&#039;t see her as gay, but it was also easy to relate and project myself into the character and I saw a lot of myself in her (as well as the frustration of the relationship with her mother). However I can also see where people used to the cliche of having the SFP fall for the prince, the childhood friend or the roguish anti-hero can confuse Merida&#039;s lack of interest with potential queerness. At the same time though it&#039;s STAGGERING that we live in goddam 2012 and we&#039;re still using tired stereotyping (she&#039;s rough and tumble! she&#039;s fierce! she&#039;s not interested in boys!) to pin down gender expression/sexual preference in a KIDS MOVIE. Like really, people?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I just saw this movie. And I thought it was pretty good.</p>
<p>Not &#8220;OH MY GOD I AM BALLING WHAT THE FUCK HAS THIS MOVIE REDUCED ME TO&#8217; Pixar amazing, but a really nice animated film. I had problems with the story, but that&#8217;s because a piece of paper says I studied animation and when you do that you officially ruin the entertainment value of anything you will ever watch, ever again (it&#8217;s like going to film school). But I came in with pretty low expectations (original female director that was supposed to be the first female director for Pixar was replaced with male director, mixed reviews about the screenings, rumbles from inside Pixar that their story people weren&#8217;t too thrilled about the story themselves), and figured it would be something really pretty to look at at least because no one models and renders like Pixar. But it was more than that, so I was pretty happy.</p>
<p>That aside, I COMPLETELY agree with you, Grace. I really loved that Merida was this strong female character who wasn&#8217;t overtaken by this sudden need to love some guy due to plot. The gender-variance just made her more dimensional for me, and definitely more of a role model. I didn&#8217;t see her as gay, but it was also easy to relate and project myself into the character and I saw a lot of myself in her (as well as the frustration of the relationship with her mother). However I can also see where people used to the cliche of having the SFP fall for the prince, the childhood friend or the roguish anti-hero can confuse Merida&#8217;s lack of interest with potential queerness. At the same time though it&#8217;s STAGGERING that we live in goddam 2012 and we&#8217;re still using tired stereotyping (she&#8217;s rough and tumble! she&#8217;s fierce! she&#8217;s not interested in boys!) to pin down gender expression/sexual preference in a KIDS MOVIE. Like really, people?</p>
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		<title>By: Carrie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carrie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2012 05:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OMM and NOM are going to be so angry at this movie but secretly, they&#039;ll like it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMM and NOM are going to be so angry at this movie but secretly, they&#8217;ll like it.</p>
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		<title>By: eLJay</title>
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		<dc:creator>eLJay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2012 05:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Finally, a Halloween-costume I can really personify! Go Merida!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally, a Halloween-costume I can really personify! Go Merida!</p>
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